PII X6 oc

[Abhilash S]

Is the OC reported are with Turbo enabled??
In the lynfield review anand told it don't oc well with turbo on
then the X6 might be better value for ocers????

 

[Lonbjerg]

Is the OC reported are with Turbo enabled??
In the lynfield review anand told it don't oc well with turbo on
then the X6 might be better value for ocers????

Only if you ignore performance:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/27/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-black-edition/5

 

[Gikaseixas]

bit-tech has to push their X6 a bit more, 3.87 is low for those chips, they can reach 4.0 or higher with little effort.

They got 4.3 out of a 930 and comparing with a X6 @ 3.87

 

[Markfw]

bit-tech has to push their X6 a bit more, 3.87 is low for those chips, they can reach 4.0 or higher with little effort.

They got 4.3 out of a 930 and comparing with a X6 @ 3.87

I agree. I got 4.1 in 15 minutes, on a $80 motherboards and a $25 cooler. You would think they could do better. I could only get 3.7 out of mu 920.

 

[jthunderloc]

I dunno, I'm struggling to get mine stable at 3.9 on a 1055t, doesnt like the high CPU core clock, anything over 295 and it takes a ton of voltage, and it wont boot at all with anything past 297. best case, I'm looking at an OC of 4060MHZ and its taking a fair amount of vcore once I passed 3.7. However, 3.7 with a slight bump to CPU PLL to offset the 295 core clock and it was stable at 1.35/stock vcore!

as far as turbo modes go, I was able to OC my i5 750 to 3.2/3.36/3.83 with turbo mode and C state on at stock voltages, with the 1055t it needs a lot more voltage to get stable, and I think thats why the have them set at 1.475 (+1.25v) in the bios. Turbo mode on these AMDs isnt as good as the intel variants, but intel has been doing it longer and they use a different, and better, method.

-Wes

 

[nonameo]

Perhaps AMD doesn't have low-k down pat just yet, causing more variance than usual for overclocks.

 

[Markfw]

ahhhh. 1055T vs 1090T. Thats the difference. You have a 1055, and its harder to OC for exactly the reason you state., but they have to 1090T, no excuse for that low OC.

 

[BLaber]

Hi jthunderloc,

Please check this thread : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=250607 , many guys there have overclocked 1055t and have listed all the setting used in bios to achieve the overclock. By comparing you setting to theirs you might be able to work out a better overclock , you might even find it better if some guy has same mobo as yours

 

[jthunderloc]

not to hijack the thread. my biggest holdback right now is thermal. the 1055 will be much harder to OC then the 1090.

Comparing a 930 @ 4.3 to a 1090t at 3.97 isnt really a fair comparison.

-Wes

EDIT-
looking at those stable OCs, mine is on par or a little better then most of those (richierich aside, he seems to have gotten a monster) as a point of reference, I'm running this
1055t @ 3.77ghz - 295 x 13 multi, CPU PLL - 2.62/vcore 1.400v Temps - 63c linX. NB/HT Link -2030

 

[Idontcare]

but they have to 1090T, no excuse for that low OC.

OC'ing is a YMMV situation...your experience is based on a single sample.

 

[Markfw]

OC'ing is a YMMV situation...your experience is based on a single sample.

all the overclocks I have read of for this chip (the 1090) seem to all be over 4 ghz. One site has the worst chip of everyone ? And their 930 chip has one of the best ?

I don't buy that kind of coincidence.

 

[OCGuy]

all the overclocks I have read of for this chip (the 1090) seem to all be over 4 ghz. One site has the worst chip of everyone ? And their 930 chip has one of the best ?

I don't buy that kind of coincidence.

So you are accusing them of.....?

 

[Gikaseixas]

So you are accusing them of.....?

I don't think he's accusing them. The 1090T overclocks very well and most reviews if not all got at least 4.0ghz out of them.

Don't you think that they could try a little harder? That's all we're saying.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Is the OC reported are with Turbo enabled??
In the lynfield review anand told it don't oc well with turbo on
then the X6 might be better value for ocers????

i wouldn't say that the X6 is a better value for overclockers, they do get up there (4 GHz plus) making them just as good IMO. For gamers and single threaded performance i would say buy i7 , for encoding and multithreaded programs X6 are looking really strong.

 

[classy]

i wouldn't say that the X6 is a better value for overclockers, they do get up there (4 GHz plus) making them just as good IMO. For gamers and single threaded performance i would say buy i7 , for encoding and multithreaded programs X6 are looking really strong.

For gamers it makes no difference at all mostly. Once you go past 12x10 they all will perform about the same. Now you can't measure how smooth or fluid a game is, but bench wise for gamers you can take any of these present generation cpus I5, Phenom II, I7 and with true game settings not see one bit of difference. GPUs are what gamers should be focusing on mostly with some attention to the cpu, but mostly the GPU.

 

[Markfw]

I don't think he's accusing them. The 1090T overclocks very well and most reviews if not all got at least 4.0ghz out of them.

Don't you think that they could try a little harder? That's all we're saying.

Exactly. ymmv is true, but if every one I have heard of goes over 4 (including mine, and I am not the greatest overclocker), then its hard for me to believe that they were the only unlucky person on the planet.

 

[Lonbjerg]

I don't buy that kind of coincidence.

You want a tinfoil hat?

 

[Dadofamunky]

I dunno, I'm struggling to get mine stable at 3.9 on a 1055t, doesnt like the high CPU core clock, anything over 295 and it takes a ton of voltage, and it wont boot at all with anything past 297. best case, I'm looking at an OC of 4060MHZ and its taking a fair amount of vcore once I passed 3.7. However, 3.7 with a slight bump to CPU PLL to offset the 295 core clock and it was stable at 1.35/stock vcore!

as far as turbo modes go, I was able to OC my i5 750 to 3.2/3.36/3.83 with turbo mode and C state on at stock voltages, with the 1055t it needs a lot more voltage to get stable, and I think thats why the have them set at 1.475 (+1.25v) in the bios. Turbo mode on these AMDs isnt as good as the intel variants, but intel has been doing it longer and they use a different, and better, method.

-Wes

Just curious, have you turned turbo off in the BIOS? I agree that the Intel variant is better; AFAIK Intel OCers also do turn turbo mode off.

 

[jthunderloc]

Just curious, have you turned turbo off in the BIOS? I agree that the Intel variant is better; AFAIK Intel OCers also do turn turbo mode off.

Yep, disabled turbo and CnQ. The problem seemed to be a bad windows install, currently sitting at 4.06ghz @1.45 (290x14) To be fair, my last windows install was 4 CPUs and 5 mobo ago, including switching from Intel to AMD to Intel and back to AMD. Not really surprising it all went wrong and being lazy backfired.

Next step is to start pushing the NB, I'm at 2030mhz right now.

-Wes