Phones through Cox

[Leros]

We already have cable through Cox at my house. The download speed is decent, but the upload speed is horrible. I barely get 30KBps upload. My dad is getting telephones through Cox, which according to him plug into the same modem we already have.

Is this correct, will they plug into the same modem as the internet?

Will it suck the small amount of bandwidth that the computers get?

 

[deftron]

Not sure, but

I think Cox has a 15 Mb/s upgrade now

for like $10 if you're worried about bandwidth...

 

[Goosemaster]

They probably use commercial QoS + seperately allocated bandwdith for such services...


sort of like how digital cable or on-demand doesn't slow down your downloads TCP/IP isn't the only thing used

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
They probably use commercial QoS + seperately allocated bandwdith for such services...


sort of like how digital cable or on-demand doesn't slow down your downloads TCP/IP isn't the only thing used

Thats what I thought, but the guy I talked to from Cox said he needs to know where the modem is so he can "plug into it." Im not sure what he means by that, if he wants to plug into my router or what.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

I've been temoted to get it, but I'm wondering what the regular rates are after the first 12 months at $10.95

 

[Splork]

You'll get a new modem with a RJ-11 port in the back. It can't be further than 8 feet from a telephone jack. You plug it in and it makes the whole house hot. I've got Digital Phone from TW and it work's great.

-sp

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I've been temoted to get it, but I'm wondering what the regular rates are after the first 12 months at $10.95

My dad did not mention anything about an introductory rate. I think he said $22 a month.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: JToxic

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I've been temoted to get it, but I'm wondering what the regular rates are after the first 12 months at $10.95

My dad did not mention anything about an introductory rate. I think he said $22 a month.

he should have goten $10.95 a month if you have cable & HSI

 

[Reel]

Is this essentially a VoIP option? I was looking at an ad for this in a basketball game's program yesterday.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: JToxic

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I've been temoted to get it, but I'm wondering what the regular rates are after the first 12 months at $10.95

My dad did not mention anything about an introductory rate. I think he said $22 a month.

he should have goten $10.95 a month if you have cable & HSI

Ok, I just looked at the prices.

We originally had:

basic cable
digital cable
high speed internet
for $94.50

We are getting:

basic cable
digital cable
high speed internet
digital telephones
for $99.95

$5.45 a month for telephones. Not bad.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

its VoIP, it'll bog down TCP/IP, and yes, it'll use your B/W. tis the main reason we're staying away from VoIP, crappy Road Runner upload speed (384kbps)

 

[Aoleleb]

Digital Telephone is not VoIP, its like getting more cable channels, it won't effect your ul/dl speed

 

[sswingle]

They offer it both ways, so everyone on here is correct partially. He may have signed up for Digital Telephone, which will not slow you down, or he might have signed up for VOIP, which will slow things down a bit. My guess is, since they need to hook into the modem, that is is VOIP.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: sheik124
its VoIP, it'll bog down TCP/IP, and yes, it'll use your B/W. tis the main reason we're staying away from VoIP, crappy Road Runner upload speed (384kbps)

I have even less upload than that


<--currently downloading Torrents @ 200KB/s
(most of them are uploading two...a few seeders as well)

<--currently chatting on an international VoIP call via vonage
<--currently posting this
<--currrently researching c++ dynamic arrays
<---currently hosting a PPTP VPN conenction...

Not even a hiccup.

If you know how to use QoS, everything will run smoothly

<---finally figured out what was causing problems for me before

 

[Eeezee]

It should not mess with your normal connection speeds, don't worry about it. That's a pretty good price for phone!

 

[Goosemaster]

EDIT: made a 5min call to El Salvador without so much as a hiccup

Vonage kicks ass

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: sheik124
its VoIP, it'll bog down TCP/IP, and yes, it'll use your B/W. tis the main reason we're staying away from VoIP, crappy Road Runner upload speed (384kbps)

I have even less upload than that


<--currently downloading Torrents @ 200KB/s
(most of them are uploading two...a few seeders as well)

<--currently chatting on an international VoIP call via vonage
<--currently posting this
<--currrently researching c++ dynamic arrays
<---currently hosting a PPTP VPN conenction...

Not even a hiccup.

If you know how to use QoS, everything will run smoothly

<---finally figured out what was causing problems for me before

I looked up QoS and figured out what it was. Does the router handle this fucntion?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: JToxic

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: sheik124
its VoIP, it'll bog down TCP/IP, and yes, it'll use your B/W. tis the main reason we're staying away from VoIP, crappy Road Runner upload speed (384kbps)

I have even less upload than that


<--currently downloading Torrents @ 200KB/s
(most of them are uploading two...a few seeders as well)

<--currently chatting on an international VoIP call via vonage
<--currently posting this
<--currrently researching c++ dynamic arrays
<---currently hosting a PPTP VPN conenction...

Not even a hiccup.

If you know how to use QoS, everything will run smoothly

<---finally figured out what was causing problems for me before

I looked up QoS and figured out what it was. Does the router handle this fucntion?

QoS is handled, or rather, can be handled by a varitable menagerie of devices. Layer 3 switches can do it, and are usually relegated to that duty for LAN based traffic. Routers do their own QoS when interlinking LANs, and having it on WAN routers is CRUCIAL.

Basically QoS is the addition and recognition of metrics to packets. prioritization, reliability, and a host of other characteristics are recognized and acted upon when needed.

For example, when I just made my VoIP call, the upload from my torrent dropped DRAMATICALLY to clear space

I have something a little more sophisticated than a consumer router I am using a soekris 4801+1641 embedded pc with an AMB 266mhz Geode Processor with 128MB of RAM that runs m0n0wall, a php web administration suite that runs on FreeBSD 4.x

Some consumer routers defintiely have it but are rather limited. The Linksys WRT54G/GS series are firmware flashable to support basic QoS. The reason I label it as basic is because it only works on ports, and not on port ranges...for example bit torrent uses the local port of 6881 by default, but answers tracker info on packets ranging from 6881-6999 or even other obscure ones depending on who runs the torrent/tracker.

Don't fret though, netgear has a new $150 Prosafe rotuer that does QoS on port ranges and everything In addition, it allows for two WAN (internet in this case) connections and allows you to bond them or use them for fail over. Keep in mind that you annot 'double' your bandwidth with it. It can only route complete conenctions over one line and cannot split them up. That said, you can use one line for serving or gaming and the other for bitttorrent for example

In addition, I have a Cisco 2610 which works wonders too. I am not using though since I only have one interface on it...I need to buy another one.$$$$ It will eventually be my gateway router

 

[Leros]

hmm, well I have the Linksys WRT54G, so hopefully I can do something with that. I'm only in Cisco I, so I dont know much about Cisco functionality yet, but I do know how expensive everything is.

 

[slackerinabox]

Ouch, that sounds painful!

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: JToxic
hmm, well I have the Linksys WRT54G, so hopefully I can do something with that. I'm only in Cisco I, so I dont know much about Cisco functionality yet, but I do know how expensive everything is.

What revision is your router (turn it upside down and check)

If it is v4 or less, download dd-wrt from http://www.dd-wrt.com/

Assumign that you have v3 or less, here is the direct download link

DOWLOAD

 

[Leros]

I have version 2. I will install that later, when/if I start having problems. Otherwise I would rather leave myself unmodified.