[PhoneArena] galaxy s4 display earns certification for AdobeRGB color accuracy!

[Dari]

You claimed it was fake before anyone even brought up the picture and said you contacted ul and they told you they never heard about this award.you want me to prove its real when you flat out lied about contacting them?

I don't have to prove anything as this certificate is posted on sites all over the web.I didn't make the blog or post the picture online and you are the one saying its fake and said you contacked ul and they never seen those guys

You then say you won't take me seriously? What do you think people think about you when you flat out lied and asked the mods to take down my thread based on a lie you wrote

Get over it and just accept the Samsung gs4 screen is the best amoled screen out and is almost calibrated as good as the best IPS lcd screens

I guess this means you won't be telling me what those numbers mean? When I searched this topic they all returned to the Sammyhub blog.

Listen, I have places to be and cooking to do. If you can't even defend your own posts then you lose. Are you a loser? I hope not...

 

[chimaxi83]

Of course I did not call. That was a joke. You guys take me too seriously.

Fixed

 

[cronos]

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that the banner is a Photoshop and this is Samsung releasing this PR and needs to make it look good.

This... explains so much.

Btw, I'm not a rocket scientist and I didn't see that the banner is photoshopped until you told me. Silly me, I guess.

 

[grkM3]

What exactly do you want to know about the numbers? There is a set standard and a bunch of color points that are tested to see how far off they are from the set standard.

Like true white being what 6500 and all those points are tested in the pictures I posted above.I'm not really sure what the heck your asking when you keep asking me what those numbers mean.

The higher % gama is from the oled ability to have more colors and hit a wider range over the set sRGB standard

 

[Skurge]

Funny Thread.

The display on The S4 and the One are pretty awesome in their own right. Now is the best time for a terrible car analogy.

You guys sound like those people who argue about which is better between a Ferrari 458 and a McLaren 12C. Guess what you have in common.

 

[waggy]

Funny Thread.

The display on The S4 and the One are pretty awesome in their own right. Now is the best time for a terrible car analogy.

You guys sound like those people who argue about which is better between a Ferrari 458 and a McLaren 12C. Guess what you have in common.

/this


and is anyone suprised with Dari trolling? lol

 

[WelshBloke]

Funny Thread.

The display on The S4 and the One are pretty awesome in their own right. Now is the best time for a terrible car analogy.

You guys sound like those people who argue about which is better between a Ferrari 458 and a McLaren 12C. Guess what you have in common.

I don't think that this thread was to denigrate the One screen, it was more to try and put to rest the lie that Samsung OLED screens have horrible colours.

The One does indeed have a great screen, the fantastic thing is that all top end smartphones do now.

 

[Skurge]

I don't think that this thread was to denigrate the One screen, it was more to try and put to rest the lie that Samsung OLED screens have horrible colours.

The One does indeed have a great screen, the fantastic thing is that all top end smartphones do now.

My point was no matter what phone you are getting, you will get an incredible display... seems a little pointless having such massive arguments about it.

 

[dawheat]

My point was no matter what phone you are getting, you will get an incredible display... seems a little pointless having such massive arguments about it.

+1. Can't we all be glad that displays are as good as they are today? Some people prefer LCD, some people prefer AMOLED - well lucky you, you can pick the phone you like. I don't get those who think their personal opinion has to apply to everyone else.

Personally I'll be looking closely at the Note 3 and the HTC competitor this fall.

 

[lopri]

My point was no matter what phone you are getting, you will get an incredible display... seems a little pointless having such massive arguments about it.

I agree with this as well. It's one thing to be picky on TV's or monitors, it's another on phones or other types of display where viewing environment isn't usually controlled.

 

[Dari]

What exactly do you want to know about the numbers? There is a set standard and a bunch of color points that are tested to see how far off they are from the set standard.

Like true white being what 6500 and all those points are tested in the pictures I posted above.I'm not really sure what the heck your asking when you keep asking me what those numbers mean.

The higher % gama is from the oled ability to have more colors and hit a wider range over the set sRGB standard

I'm glad you decided to climb down and answer my question. It was never a difficult one but you chose to obfuscate and make nebulous statements. The "color expression adobe rgb" number and "color accuracy tolerance" number, provide context and comparison. Is the latter a variance? If so, to what. I'm a layman when it comes to this and making wild claims that aren't substantiated will be met with derision (as I've dutifully done here).

Also, I find it sad that people have no problem with Samsung supposedly photochopping something such as this. I think all this is completely fabricated BS and Samsung had nothing to do with this. This was either the work of the OP or those he sympathizes with.

 

[Crono]

If anyone thinks Dari is trolling, here's a simple tip: don't respond. Proven to be 100% effective against trolls.

Personally I think he just has a strong dissenting opinion. I agree that there are better displays, but I'm not going to say the GS4's is crap. It's quite good, I've seen it in person and would gladly take the display over anything except for the One (which I already own) an the iPhone 5 if you disregard size (a big "if").

And I tried looking up the source of the article/image and couldn't get anything except a random Italian article which itself is citing Sammy Hub. Considering that I couldn't find the existence of that specific certification or an awarding of such a thing to Samsung (I've seen other certs awarded for their TVs and other products, though), I would doubt that it happened unless there is verification from either Samsung or UL. Sammy Hub doesn't quote anyone or list a source, which isn't a good sign if they are supposed to a reputable blog. They are an unofficial blog, anyway, so I wouldn't hold Samsung accountable if they are spreading misinformation. I've never heard of them until now, but that's not surprising considering the number of tech blogs and the fact that I'm not really in tune with the Samsung world.

I don't doubt that the GS4 falls within that spec, there just don't seem to be any press releases confirming that it received certification from UL for it. And that is a very relevant fact considering the thread is based on it, so I wouldn't give Dari such a hard time.

 

[Hunt3rj2]

Professional mode on the gs4 is labeled adobe rgb on international gs4s and that is why ul used that test as that is what Samsung calibrated the phone to with professional mode selected and to be fair to Samsung it hit that standard almost perfect and Im sure with an update to there kernel they can tune movie mode to be more calibrated to srgb range

If you look at all the color temp tests on the gs4 on the annand review you can click between the gs4 and iPhone 5 and see that more of the color dots are better on the gs4 in the middle color range and the gs4 gets a little off in the outer color range

Even true white is better on the gs4 vs the iPhone 5 and the numbers from sites that put the iPhone better is because of a small area at the widest color spectrum where the gs4 goes off a bit.

here is a picture that compares both and you can see how good the gs4 is in the middle color range and how it gets bad way outside colors than the human eye cant even tell the difference of

No, that's incorrect. Samsung claimed it's Adobe RGB but it was explicitly stated in the Galaxy S4 review that it is just natural mode relabeled without changes.

You're also horrible at reading these color gamut charts. The colored triangle represents sRGB, the larger spectrum represents what humans can see. The iPhone 5 has a lower deltaE than the GS4, period. White point is around the same as far as I can tell, with the iPhone 5 having slightly better white point calibration.

Seriously, if you want to just make up the facts, this conversation is over. Go ask all the reviewers if you want, the truth is that the GS4 panel is just not as well calibrated as those in the iPhone 5 and One. I don't care what your preference is, I am stating fact. If you like the oversaturated colors of the GS4 then accept that it is your preference and not universal truth.

Edit: Seriously, I don't get why this thread exists. For a so-called technical forum, there are a stupid amount of people that don't even understand how to read display calibration measurements. Fact of the matter is that no, the S4's OLED panel is still not well-calibrated and none of the modes fix that. No one cares that the S4 is calibrated well for Adobe RGB because the OS it runs assumes that the panel is calibrated for sRGB.

 

[Germanic]

If anyone thinks Dari is trolling, here's a simple tip: don't respond. Proven to be 100% effective against trolls.

Personally I think he just has a strong dissenting opinion. I agree that there are better displays, but I'm not going to say the GS4's is crap. It's quite good, I've seen it in person and would gladly take the display over anything except for the One (which I already own) an the iPhone 5 if you disregard size (a big "if").

And I tried looking up the source of the article/image and couldn't get anything except a random Italian article which itself is citing Sammy Hub. Considering that I couldn't find the existence of that specific certification or an awarding of such a thing to Samsung (I've seen other certs awarded for their TVs and other products, though), I would doubt that it happened unless there is verification from either Samsung or UL. Sammy Hub doesn't quote anyone or list a source, which isn't a good sign if they are supposed to a reputable blog. They are an unofficial blog, anyway, so I wouldn't hold Samsung accountable if they are spreading misinformation. I've never heard of them until now, but that's not surprising considering the number of tech blogs and the fact that I'm not really in tune with the Samsung world.

I don't doubt that the GS4 falls within that spec, there just don't seem to be any press releases confirming that it received certification from UL for it. And that is a very relevant fact considering the thread is based on it, so I wouldn't give Dari such a hard time.

Alright he's not trolling because he has an opinion and he's not randomly spewing out bs like what trolls usually do.

BUT.

He is anti-Samsung and biased. This means 99% of the comments he makes in a Samsung-related thread is negative and I think it sometimes gets to a point that it's just doing more harm to the thread than contributing to any meaningful discussion. That's what I don't like.

 

[Crono]

Alright he's not trolling because he has an opinion and he's not randomly spewing out bs like what trolls usually do.

BUT.

He is anti-Samsung and biased. This means 99% of the comments he makes in a Samsung-related thread is negative and I think it sometimes gets to a point that it's just doing more harm to the thread than contributing to any meaningful discussion. That's what I don't like.

Yeah, there's no question he's biased against Samsung.

I myself have a slight bias against Samsung, but only because they are the big dog now and I'd like to see them in a position where they are forced to compete more... it's easy to see them throwing money into marketing and vastly outselling the smaller Android players like HTC, LG, and Sony, even with hardware/software being relatively equal or even if the others have some features that are superior. All these guys already make more profit per handset than I would like. I can't deny good products or hardware, though. Samsung has the benefit of vertical integration, and a lot of what they make (memory, displays, Exynos processor) is pretty decent.

I'd still like to see confirmation of the certification. Has anyone found anything that proves the S4 was indeed certified by UL for this? Again, I have no doubt the S4 could receive that certification, I just want to know if Sammy Hub is to be trusted.