Phone running out of room, can you delete Andriod Apps?

JTsyo

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I have a MotoE running Andriod 4.4.4 and it's out of memory. I've moved everything I can onto the SD card but there's all the default android apps that can't be moved. Is it possible to some how delete them?
 

Platypus

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Removing those applications wouldn't help you as they're in the system partition, whereas your storage issue is on the userdata partition.
 

lxskllr

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Removing those applications wouldn't help you as they're in the system partition, whereas your storage issue is on the userdata partition.
He could move his user apps to the system partition. Probably couldn't update them though. I used to be able to on a cheap tablet(ics?), but updating a moved app on my phone(kitkat) puts the new copy in the user partition. Do you know why that is?
 

Platypus

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He could move his user apps to the system partition. Probably couldn't update them though. I used to be able to on a cheap tablet(ics?), but updating a moved app on my phone(kitkat) puts the new copy in the user partition. Do you know why that is?

He'd have to root it to do that, the system filesystem is mounted read-only on Android, and that would only save on the size of the APK itself, which is generally small. The actual user data would still end up in the userdata partition anyway.

Not sure why you'd get the behavior on the second question.

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of your storage usage, OP. I am betting you have some cruft you could get rid of in the way of photos/videos or something that's just taking up space.
 

shortylickens

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Good lord how many apps do you have on that thing?
How many apps do you NEED on that thing?
 

JTsyo

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He'd have to root it to do that, the system filesystem is mounted read-only on Android, and that would only save on the size of the APK itself, which is generally small. The actual user data would still end up in the userdata partition anyway.

Not sure why you'd get the behavior on the second question.

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of your storage usage, OP. I am betting you have some cruft you could get rid of in the way of photos/videos or something that's just taking up space.
So internal storage is 2.21 GB
Apps - 1.61GB
Pics/vids - 1.52 MB
Audio - 148 KB
Downloads - 8 KB
Cached - 308 MB
Misc - 13.24 MB
 
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Platypus

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So internal storage is 2.21 GB
Apps - 1.61GB
Pics/vids - 1.52 MB
Audio - 148 KB
Downloads - 8 KB
Cached - 308 MB
Misc - 13.24 MB

It's tedious but not difficult to find out which application(s) are sucking up the space. If you had a rooted device you could simply use the du utility inside the /data/ directory to see which app and/or corresponding sandbox is the top consumer.

Realistically though, it sounds like there's very little you can do about it unless you uninstall some applications or just clear their local storage out if you cannot uninstall them. Or get a newer device. Android 4.4.4 is severely compromised and out of date anyway.
 

Raduque

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A Moto E has 8gb I think, of space. The OS and system apps use about 3 of that, leaving 5-ish for the user. You'll really need to step up to a 16gb device at least, which should have around 12-14gb free.
 

shortylickens

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So internal storage is 2.21 GB
Apps - 1.61GB
Pics/vids - 1.52 MB
Audio - 148 KB
Downloads - 8 KB
Cached - 308 MB
Misc - 13.24 MB


You need a new phone. If they only let you keep a small percentage of the memory for yourself then clearly they did not have your best interests at heart.
All of my Android choices had plenty of leftover space after the OS. My Sony has 32 gigs of onboard storage and reads microSD up to 256gigs. I could be watching 4k movies if the screen was big enough.