Phoenix to acquire Stephon Marbury . . .

[XMan]

. . . for Jason Kidd and Chris Dudley.

SWEET.

 

[Stark]

and they're still no closer to getting out of the second round.

 

[XMan]

Why do you say that?

Biggest weakness last year was power forward and low post scoring; Martin rectifies that. Marbury is a far superior shooter to Kidd, so double-teaming the low post against the Suns will no longer be as effective. Penny has rehabbed successfully and is in the best shape he's been in since his rookie year. Starting lineup of Marbury, Hardaway, Shawn Marion, Martin, and Jake Tsakalidis - not bad.

Not good enough to beat the Lakers in a seven-game set unless Kobe and Shaq were suffering from food poisoning or something, but it vaults the Suns over teams like Sacramento and Portland, IMO.

 

[mztykal]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

OMG! You better be lying. I'm a huge J. Kidd fan. He's doing great in Phoenix, they better not trade him! And for Stephon Marbury? OMG! They deserve to die! You better be lying! :|

 

[mztykal]

I need proof! Show me a link that proves your statement. They better not be trading him. I was so pissed when Dallas traded him. Phoenix better not trade him. :|

 

[XMan]

Why would I be lying?

Kidd couldn't hit a jumpshot to save his life; he's not going to be as effective given the new zone defense rules changes. More importantly, I was a big Jason Kidd fan too until he started smacking his wife around. :|

AZ Republic

CBS Sportsline

 

[NotoriousJTC]

WOW! Ok this is big. 2 of the best PG's in the NBA today possibly traded for each other!

This will definetly shake up my fantasy hoops team next year

 

[TuffGuy]

espn article

they also said that marbury and gugliotta didn't get along while in minnesota.

 

[mztykal]

Dude, that was one time. And don't you think he heard it enough from everyone? Plus he can shoot. He's gotten way better from his college and early NBA years. He's more of a playmaker than a scorer anyway. Phoenix will suck without a solid point guard.

 

[Stark]

<< Biggest weakness last year was power forward and low post scoring; Martin rectifies that. >>


but he's still no match for Duncan, Wallace, Webber (if he sticks around), or the big daddy.


<< Marbury is a far superior shooter to Kidd, so double-teaming the low post against the Suns will no longer be as effective. >>


but he's a selfish player. and that leads to your next point:


<< Penny has rehabbed successfully and is in the best shape he's been in since his rookie year. >>


Penny will never win a thing. If they had traded him for Marbury, I would understand. But Kidd beat up his wife, so he's gone. Penny is one of the most self-centered, ego-centric, me-first player in the league. There's no way he'll coexist with marbury. He'll play one month and sit out the rest of the season, just like every other year he's been in the league (well, almost).


<<
Starting lineup of Marbury, Hardaway, Shawn Marion, Martin, and Jake Tsakalidis - not bad.

Not good enough to beat the Lakers in a seven-game set unless Kobe and Shaq were suffering from food poisoning or something, but it vaults the Suns over teams like Sacramento and Portland, IMO. >>


That's a good lineup... in the east! They moved up, but Dallas will improve, Sac isn't dead yet, Portland will still win games, San Antonio has something to prove, and nobody looks like they can challenge LA for a long time. Building a great team takes time. Changing around the core of your lineup usually means it will take you that much longer to succeed.

 

[trmiv]

Where do you get that Martin and Gugliotta are involved in this trade? None of the links mention those two. That trade doesn't even work under the CBA anyway. There has to be either more players invloved or different players involved because just Jason Kidd and Googs for Marbury and Martin does not work.

 

[Stark]

Phoenix just got a lot better next season:

Derrick Fisher broke his foot today and will be out 6 mo.

 

[NotoriousJTC]

Damn that guy can't catch a break

His plan must be: Sit out season, come back for playoffs, win title, sit out season, come back for playoffs, etc etc... j/k

 

[trmiv]

<< Derrick Fisher broke his foot today and will be out 6 mo. >>



Who's Derrick Fisher? Oh, you mean Derek Fisher, I know him.

I knew that, I heard about it earlier today before it was official. Somebody said something about it on the radio.

 

[XMan]

Where do you get that Martin and Gugliotta are involved in this trade? None of the links mention those two. That trade doesn't even work under the CBA anyway. There has to be either more players invloved or different players involved because just Jason Kidd and Googs for Marbury and Martin does not work.

That was what the initial report I heard was.

That may be different now, though Googs and Kidd are headed to NJ and Marbury is headed to Phoenix.

 

[trmiv]

The Suns just traded Cliff Robinson to Detroit for John Wallace and Jud Buechler Is Jerry Is Colangelo on drugs? Why would you trade Uncle Cliffy for those two stiffs? The only reason to max this move if for salary cutting purposes. What's next? Penny Hardaway to the Nuggets for Calbert Cheaney and George McCloud?

 

[Imported]

Update: The Suns just traded Penny Hardaway to the Nuggets for Calbert Cheaney and George McCloud.

 

[XMan]

The Suns just traded Cliff Robinson to Detroit for John Wallace and Jud Buechler Is Jerry Is Colangelo on drugs? Why would you trade Uncle Cliffy for those two stiffs? The only reason to max this move if for salary cutting purposes. What's next? Penny Hardaway to the Nuggets for Calbert Cheaney and George McCloud?

They're clearing cap room for next summer. As it stands right now they will be 6.5 million under the cap next season. Another 4-5 million, and they'll be able to offer a max contract to Antawn Jamison or Vince Carter.

 

[SuperCyrix]

<< That's a good lineup... in the east! They moved up, but Dallas will improve, Sac isn't dead yet, Portland will still win games, San Antonio has something to prove, and nobody looks like they can challenge LA for a long time. Building a great team takes time. Changing around the core of your lineup usually means it will take you that much longer to succeed. >>



This is something nobody else will believe, but I'm telling you now. Clippers will absolutely trash the Lakers next year and take the west.
I know I know, nobody believes me now, but just you all wait.

 

[OrByte]

SuperC- The Clippers are looking damn good. I am right behind you and jumping on the band wagon (if there is one yet)

But no one can handle the Laker's, that is until they lose their psychological advantage over the rest of the west.


Back on topic.... The Sun's are breaking up their roster, please don't expect anything more than an 8th seed for these guys. Kidd was an exceptional point guard, Jerry C. has truely lost it with this move. Marbury is a good player, but not at the level of Kidd.

 

[virtuamike]

Clippers do have some talent but they still need a coach. Vancouver though is starting to look good, and give the Bulls a couple years, their kids will develop.

 

[prontospyder]

Getting Vince Carter would make the Suns into a powerhouse team...

 

[XMan]

Getting Vince Carter would make the Suns into a powerhouse team...

Yeah, but it still wouldn't propel them above the Lakers. They need a power forward more than they need Carter, too.

 

[OrByte]

Is Vince Carter a free agent?

Oh you guys are talking about next year, well alot can happen next season and if the Suns are talking about free agents after next season then they are in a worse situation than I thought.

Read into all the teams that were clamoring for C. Webb last year, the Knicks practically had his NY jersey on store shelves. But that didn't happen.


Oh and about Vancouver...good luck with JWill, Sac is happy he got shipped out!

 

[Stark]

you clippers fans are forgetting something: donald sterling.

As long as he's the owner, they won't win. Never ever ever. Ever ever. He is the epitome of a bad owner: cheap, satisfied with mediocrity, and arrogant.