Phish calling it quits after summer tour

[GasX]

Doesn't someone have to die before you can stop doing the dirtbag stoner tour?

 

[royaldank]

Don, the girl was not nude and you make it sound like they are in the middle of nowhere. It was a boathouse used to load and unload stage equipment at a standard amphitheater. No charges were pressed nor was there anything incriminating on the roll of photos.

Just as Jerry passing away, this is a bad day for anyone that likes music. Phish pioneered many great ideas and stood as a testament to what can make a great band. They weren't processed through the record labels and were able to become a success by gaining fans. They should be viewed as what is possible by folks that love their art. Like Phish or not, they have helped the industry and bands in many ways. Few bands will, or have ever, been at a level Phish was at. Neither Clear Channel nor the RIAA had anything to do with it.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: CChaos

If you take it so seriously then why manufacture that the girl was "nude"? Why should your opinion mean anything to me if the people who were actually there and the child's parents said it was a misunderstanding? And what does any of this have to do with the music the band spent 2 decades making and sharing with the world?

It was my understanding from the initial reporting of the case that she was nude. Apparently I was wrong, and I will edit that out.

That said, this sounds like typical grooming behavior for a would-be child molester, and, again, I find it wildly unlikely there is an innocent explanation for it. I am not God and don't know firsthand, but it sounds more than likely to me that Gordon bought his way out of this.

I see this as relevant information when the topic of Phish comes up. I am a fanatical James Brown fan, for example, and think he contributed a vast amount to American music. That said, I see his legal problems as relevant when his name is discussed publicly.

 

[CChaos]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: CChaos

If you take it so seriously then why manufacture that the girl was "nude"? Why should your opinion mean anything to me if the people who were actually there and the child's parents said it was a misunderstanding? And what does any of this have to do with the music the band spent 2 decades making and sharing with the world?

It was my understanding from the initial reporting of the case that she was nude. Apparently I was wrong, and I will edit that out.

That said, this sounds like typical grooming behavior for a would-be child molester, and, again, I find it wildly unlikely there is an innocent explanation for it. I am not God and don't know firsthand, but it sounds more than likely to me that Gordon bought his way out of this.

I see this as relevant information when the topic of Phish comes up. I am a fanatical James Brown fan, for example, and think he contributed a vast amount to American music. That said, I see his legal problems as relevant when his name is discussed publicly.

Why edit your mistake while harping on Mike's? It doesn't matter anyway. You've already fvcked up a perfectly nice thread with your admitted axe-grinding and semi-literacy. To further compound this, you now offer us the idea that any time someone refers to the band we should all talk about this incidient. That is just the asshattery I tactfully warned against. Not appropriate and not accurate. Perhaps you misread my initial post as well...

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: royaldank
August 14 and 15 festival in Coventry will the be the last shows for the band. End of a 21 year run.

It's about effin' time.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: CChaos

Why edit your mistake while harping on Mike's? It doesn't matter anyway. You've already fvcked up a perfectly nice thread with your admitted axe-grinding and semi-literacy. To further compound this, you now offer us the idea that any time someone refers to the band we should all talk about this incidient. That is just the asshattery I tactfully warned against. Not appropriate and not accurate. Perhaps you misread my initial post as well...

I can't say I see the seriousness of our "mistakes" as similar, but I apologize to the extent I have hijacked your thread. I hope I am wrong and Gordon is not a victimizer of children.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Don_VitoThat said, this sounds like typical grooming behavior for a would-be child molester, and, again, I find it wildly unlikely there is an innocent explanation for it. I am not God and don't know firsthand, but it sounds more than likely to me that Gordon bought his way out of this.

Mike is apparently a well know photographer. Is it possible that he was bored, camera wielding, pretty fvcked up and saw a small child and thought that he might be able to take a few nice photographs without thinking of how the situation might appear? I'm not saying that he is innocent, but seeing as he wasn't even charged with the crime, saying that he was molesting or going to molest that child is very presumptuous on your part.

I see this as relevant information when the topic of Phish comes up. I am a fanatical James Brown fan, for example, and think he contributed a vast amount to American music. That said, I see his legal problems as relevant when his name is discussed publicly.

Indeed, you are very right, if Mike did infact molest the little girl it would be a pertinent topic.

 

[erikistired]

that's great news. too bad it didn't happen a lot earlier. by way of a giant dump truck rolling over them. that would have been better. oh well.

 

[Pepsi90919]

i thought they already broke up

 

[CChaos]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: CChaos

Why edit your mistake while harping on Mike's? It doesn't matter anyway. You've already fvcked up a perfectly nice thread with your admitted axe-grinding and semi-literacy. To further compound this, you now offer us the idea that any time someone refers to the band we should all talk about this incidient. That is just the asshattery I tactfully warned against. Not appropriate and not accurate. Perhaps you misread my initial post as well...

I can't say I see the seriousness of our "mistakes" as similar, but I apologize to the extent I have hijacked your thread. I hope I am wrong and Gordon is not a victimizer of children.

Mike Gordon is a wierd motherfvcker who always has a camera with him. The extent of his mistake is not realizing that people would freak out despite the innocence of the situation. You, on the other hand, just straight up lie. I guess morally superior and reactionary trumps eccentric.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CChaos

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: CChaos

If you take it so seriously then why manufacture that the girl was "nude"? Why should your opinion mean anything to me if the people who were actually there and the child's parents said it was a misunderstanding? And what does any of this have to do with the music the band spent 2 decades making and sharing with the world?

It was my understanding from the initial reporting of the case that she was nude. Apparently I was wrong, and I will edit that out.

That said, this sounds like typical grooming behavior for a would-be child molester, and, again, I find it wildly unlikely there is an innocent explanation for it. I am not God and don't know firsthand, but it sounds more than likely to me that Gordon bought his way out of this.

I see this as relevant information when the topic of Phish comes up. I am a fanatical James Brown fan, for example, and think he contributed a vast amount to American music. That said, I see his legal problems as relevant when his name is discussed publicly.

Why edit your mistake while harping on Mike's? It doesn't matter anyway. You've already fvcked up a perfectly nice thread with your admitted axe-grinding and semi-literacy. To further compound this, you now offer us the idea that any time someone refers to the band we should all talk about this incidient. That is just the asshattery I tactfully warned against. Not appropriate and not accurate. Perhaps you misread my initial post as well...

You've got to be kidding me. He's been nothing but graceful about it, and it was a valid point to raise. Damn hippys...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: CChaos

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: CChaos

Why edit your mistake while harping on Mike's? It doesn't matter anyway. You've already fvcked up a perfectly nice thread with your admitted axe-grinding and semi-literacy. To further compound this, you now offer us the idea that any time someone refers to the band we should all talk about this incidient. That is just the asshattery I tactfully warned against. Not appropriate and not accurate. Perhaps you misread my initial post as well...

I can't say I see the seriousness of our "mistakes" as similar, but I apologize to the extent I have hijacked your thread. I hope I am wrong and Gordon is not a victimizer of children.

Mike Gordon is a wierd motherfvcker who always has a camera with him. The extent of his mistake is not realizing that people would freak out despite the innocence of the situation. You, on the other hand, just straight up lie. I guess morally superior and reactionary trumps eccentric.

Oh man...

 

This thread is about the band breaking up, not the whole picture scandal.
wankers.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: CChaos

Mike Gordon is a wierd motherfvcker who always has a camera with him. The extent of his mistake is not realizing that people would freak out despite the innocence of the situation. You, on the other hand, just straight up lie. I guess morally superior and reactionary trumps eccentric.

Okay, I was trying to be gracious, and you persist in being insulting. I already edited my posts and apologized to you, and you can't let it drop.

Mike Gordon's actions were indeed bizarre, but not as much so as your slavish defensiveness toward him and his creepy behavior. You're coming off like Renfield.

I hope your own moral superiority is adequate protection if you ever find your small child the subject of a middle-aged man's "art pictures".

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: royaldank
Don, the girl was not nude

If she was that brainless fscktard would have been dead by the time the Cops arrived!

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
sad to see what little talent is left in the music industry fizzle out.

Sorry. Phish is good. I like phish. But they aren't the best.

Flecktones, much better.

then there are SCI, Big Wu, etc who are kinda a step down, but oh well. Lots of good music out there. Flecktones completely rock. And when Bela gets together with Edgar Meyer, thats also amazing.

Every friday, for me, is time for Contact: "The tires are the things on your car . . . . . . "

It never fails to bring a big smile to my face.