Philosophy

[jonks]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: CrazyHelloDeli
No, philosophy is what is written on a cereal box.

Religion is a smile on a dog.

I'm not aware of too many things.

 

[Turin39789]

this is the logical outcome of allowing Casiotech to post

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Pretty much every philosophical discussion I've ever had has ended up turning into "but how do we know the world around us is real?"

So yeah I agree. Philosophy is mostly bullshit.

So because it became "how do we know the world around us is real?" it is bullshit?

It's bullshit to question things that science cannot touch (the abstract)? Science is great, but unforutnately we cannot *prove* one way or another that we are real and not just a character in somebodies dream. Can you prove to me you are real and not "made up"? Philosophy is great because you cannot be wrong, as long as you can backup your beliefs with logic.

Do you think religion is bullshit as well?

Well you just proved his point quite expertly. Well played.

Part of the problem with breaking everything down to the "what is real" level is that it is a completely dismissive argument in most situations. It's a cop-out, a simple question with no answer that effectively nullifies any further conversation. I think if you're trying to have an intellectual debate with someone, you can accept that there are different interpretations of reality, but you are going to use a commonly accepted view of what is real and argue your points within that framework. Otherwise, what's the point?

I actually enjoyed my philosophy class, but that's because I enjoy trying to find the logical end to things. I can see why others would think it was complete bullshit though; parts of it, as in most disciplines, are complete bullshit.

 

[RESmonkey]

there is no fucking jesus spirit fuck god thing out there give up and diaf

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Pretty much every philosophical discussion I've ever had has ended up turning into "but how do we know the world around us is real?"

So yeah I agree. Philosophy is mostly bullshit.

So because it became "how do we know the world around us is real?" it is bullshit?

It's bullshit to question things that science cannot touch (the abstract)? Science is great, but unforutnately we cannot *prove* one way or another that we are real and not just a character in somebodies dream. Can you prove to me you are real and not "made up"? Philosophy is great because you cannot be wrong, as long as you can backup your beliefs with logic.

Do you think religion is bullshit as well?

Well you just proved his point quite expertly. Well played.

Part of the problem with breaking everything down to the "what is real" level is that it is a completely dismissive argument in most situations. It's a cop-out, a simple question with no answer that effectively nullifies any further conversation. I think if you're trying to have an intellectual debate with someone, you can accept that there are different interpretations of reality, but you are going to use a commonly accepted view of what is real and argue your points within that framework. Otherwise, what's the point?

I actually enjoyed my philosophy class, but that's because I enjoy trying to find the logical end to things. I can see why others would think it was complete bullshit though; parts of it, as in most disciplines, are complete bullshit.

Took the words right out my mouth. Anyone who reduces the argument to the point of solipsism loses.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Took the words right out my mouth. Anyone who reduces the argument to the point of solipsism loses.

I just learned a new word. Booyah!

 

[Brainonska511]

What's with your lazy ass threads? You make some dumbass statement and then tell everyone else to discuss it. Try coming up with something deeper than "bullshit. discuss."

Philosophy isn't necessarily the best career choice, but it is a good (and not the only part to a complete education) way to teach you how to think. It can teach you how to think in abstract terms about human behavior and why society is the way it is and help you to formulate your own ideas on how things should and can work.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Took the words right out my mouth. Anyone who reduces the argument to the point of solipsism loses.

I just learned a new word. Booyah!

Same here.

And even the self isn't really verifiable. It could still be an illusion, the product of a sophisticated computer program, or in someone else's imagination.

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's with your lazy ass threads? You make some dumbass statement and then tell everyone else to discuss it. Try coming up with something deeper than "bullshit. discuss."

Philosophy isn't necessarily the best career choice, but it is a good (and not the only part to a complete education) way to teach you how to think. It can teach you how to think in abstract terms about human behavior and why society is the way it is and help you to formulate your own ideas on how things should and can work.

Definitely. My philosophy teacher had us read "Beyond Hypocrisy." It was decidedly anti-Bush (Bush v1), but it did bring up some interesting points, like how much the news gets filtered. Management decides where to send reporters, the crew there decides what to talk about, and what to film, editors decide what the public gets to see - and this can include removal of material that might offend advertisers, or otherwise threaten the profits or power of key interests. You wind up seeing not what has truly happened, but only what someone else wanted you to see.