Philosophy Paper

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Please ignore grammer errors they are being fixed. do not count tward raiting...

Hastings: The sun is bright isnt it Martian.
Martian: To you it may be, but to me it is different.
Hastings: Different in what way, explain your self.
Martian: Well first off, you have to think there is a sun to accept that it is sunny, no?
Hastings: True but you see with you eyes and you know it is real so it cannot be disputed.
Martian: But eyes deceive and thoughts are what reality is created of.
Hastings: By that logic nothing is real unless you make it real, so this conversation is not happening.
Martian: No, my dear friend. It is completely real because we are both thinking of the next logical move.
Hastings: What would that next move be?
Martian: Exactly.
Hastings: Exactly what?
Martian: Again you demonstrate the next move, the one of logical thinking.
Hastings: So every conversation is real? And objects are not?
Martian: No only the participation of conversation is real, to others this conversation never existed. Objects are never real because they are created by the mind, they are material and speaking is intellectual.
Hastings: So by that logic any thing intellectual is correct only to the mind that perceives it and to those who believe it really does exist.
Martian: Exactly So by that logic it is not sunny today, it is raining.
Hastings: That is moronic it is sunny, rain is not falling from the sky.
Martian: Association is in the mind, so sun may be rain as rain may be sun. The possibilities are limitless. But no matter what way you look at it, it becomes reality.
Hastings: Again this troubles me, it seems like ignorance has grafted itself to your mind.
Martian: I have no mind only thought I have no body only intelligence. I have no senses only reality.
Hastings: So because you think that you are nothing you are nothing?
Martian: No, I am something, but the thing that I am not is material, and because of this nothing is real except me.
Hastings: So you are saying Im not real?
Martian: Correct! But to me in this moment in time I have created a thought that involves talking to people and thus you have become real inside my thoughts. But in realty you are nonexistent.
Hastings: So this would not make me responsible for my own actions because others do not exist.
Martian: Correct, this allows you to do any thing you want, but you are shackle to the limitations to the mind that creates you.
Hastings: So who creates me?
Martian: I do because I have begun this conversation, and in my reality nothing exists other then things I create.
Hastings: So if I jumped up and down that would be you making me do that?
Martian: Perhaps or that could be my reality making you do that, something beyond mere thought.
Hastings: Perplexing, I think you have dug you self in a ditch here.
Martian: Well, what do you mean?
Hastings: Well, by you logic because you need a ride to the store and you have created me to give you a ride to the store then my only proposes in reality is to give you a ride to the store?
Martian: Yes, that is correct.
Hastings: So then if I did not give you a ride to the store your reality would be wrong and I would be the more dominate reality.
Martian: Ummm, I guess.
Hastings: Ahh I get it, so you are only created in my reality because you are the needy guy that needs a ride to the store.
Martian: I suppose so.
Hastings: Well in my reality I have you walking, so here is an umbrella there is the door, and enjoy your reality.
 

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philosohpy is the study of wisdom no?

if you are wise, you best ask a legitimate question with certain criterea for us to scrutinize it against.....

*whacks quackerww with 'the apology'*
 

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Originally posted by: notfred
It looks like you're doing a really bad job of ripping off Socrates.

I know thats the ideia of this paper. Badley - explain for tweaking?

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
philosohpy is the study of wisdom no?

if you are wise, you best ask a legitimate question with certain criterea for us to scrutinize it against.....

*whacks quackerww with 'the apology'*

Forgive me, I failed.
 

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by the way, many people hypothesize that Socrates was murdered because he was just too fvkign annoying and would refuse to shut the fvk up...


 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
by the way, many people hypothesize that Socrates was murdered because he was just too fvkign annoying and would refuse to shut the fvk up...

rofl
 

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wtf is with the insane tangent for such a simple question....


scorates was about progression iirc..not randomness...
 

quackerww

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
wtf is with the insane tangent for such a simple question....


scorates was about progression iirc..not randomness...

That has a main idea and conclueds how is this random, explain...
 

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seriously dude, many of us are very familar with philo and have it out for Scorates.....


that repetitive and extrapolationist bastard:|
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
seriously dude, many of us are very familar with philo and have it out for Scorates.....


that repetitive and extrapolationist bastard:|

agreed
 

quackerww

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
seriously dude, many of us are very familar with philo and have it out for Scorates.....


that repetitive and extrapolationist bastard:|

Does that merit giving me a bad score? Added to that this is more Descartes, and has some scorates.
 

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Originally posted by: quackerww
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
seriously dude, many of us are very familar with philo and have it out for Scorates.....


that repetitive and extrapolationist bastard:|

Does that merit giving me a bad score?

i gave a 3 .
 

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Originally posted by: quackerww
Hastings: So who creates me?

BOW BEFORE YOUR GOD, MORTAL!

Seriously, you make some big leaps here, starting on line 6.

 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: quackerww
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
seriously dude, many of us are very familar with philo and have it out for Scorates.....


that repetitive and extrapolationist bastard:|

Does that merit giving me a bad score?

I gave you a:

Are you really here?

I mean, are you a figment of my imagination?

If you are, then I can indeed begin to conclude that your words are indeed partitions of that figment, and by due process, conclude that weed is indeed very powerful
 

notfred

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Hastings: The sun is bright isnt it Martian.
Why would anyone ask that in the first place?

Martian: To you it may be, but to me it is different.
Ok, so he's talking about different people's perceptions.

Hastings: Different in what way, explain your self.
Put question marks at the end of questions.

Martian: Well first off, you have to think there is a sun to accept that it is sunny, no?
No one ever said anything about it being sunny. He asked if the sun was bright.

Hastings: True but you see with you eyes and you know it is real so it cannot be disputed.
What does this line have to do with anything? it comes out of nowhere and nothing in it has any support at all.

Martian: But eyes deceive and thoughts are what reality is created of.
Another completely unsupported claim about thoughts being reality.

Hastings: By that logic nothing is real unless you make it real, so this conversation is not happening.
Where does "make it real" come from? Why would that imply the conversation isn't happening?

I'm not going to do this for the whole thing, but there's no logical flow to this argument, it's jsut abunch of random lines thrown together that don't lead into one another at all.
 

quackerww

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I'm fine with the score but no one is giving me constructive criticism. intelligence works both ways.

Thanks notfred: atleast you gave me something.
 

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I'm not going to do this for the whole thing, but there's no logical flow to this argument, it's jsut abunch of random lines thrown together that don't lead into one another at all.


exactly, it is poitnless, when the poit of phil is a point....probably some miniscule an obvert and practically useless one...but it doesn't mean that it isn't there....
 

notfred

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Here's an idea quacker - you try to prove your point to me, we'll do the conversation over AIM, and you can record the conversation and post it here, or turn it in, or use it as a base for something else, or whatever.

I'll be Martian, you be Hastings. we can do it on AIM if you want.