Phil Jackson: Jordan better than Kobe

NFS4

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Lebron better than both

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SAWYER

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I was joking, just thought I would get that out of the way. I dont even follow basketball anymore, since the 90's actually
 

wirednuts

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oh my god... just watch some tapes. kobe was almost as good of a shooter, but jordan was better at everything.

even lebron today couldnt stop jordan in his prime. no way. he would get a couple blocks MAYBE here and there, but jordan would keep running shit down his throat until lebron choked on his crybaby tears.

there is no comparison between kobe and jordan. lebron is much closer, but still not the champion #23 was. lebron cant shoot nearly as good as mj did either. he has all that height advantage and still misses open shots. jordan wouldnt miss blocked shots, that guy was just SIC.
 
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Lebron is the most overrated basketball player of recent memory. Yes he's a great player. Best of all time discussions? lol
 
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why did jordan "retire" the first time?

why did someone kill his did?

Got bored of kicking everyone's ass. Figured it'd be more of a challenge to do it in his mid thirties. He figured wrong as he was still toying with the rest of the NBA a few years shy of being 40.
 

HendrixFan

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Got bored of kicking everyone's ass. Figured it'd be more of a challenge to do it in his mid thirties. He figured wrong as he was still toying with the rest of the NBA a few years shy of being 40.

You don't buy the gambling suspension rumor?
 

2timer

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oh my god... just watch some tapes. kobe was almost as good of a shooter, but jordan was better at everything.

even lebron today couldnt stop jordan in his prime. no way. he would get a couple blocks MAYBE here and there, but jordan would keep running shit down his throat until lebron choked on his crybaby tears.

there is no comparison between kobe and jordan. lebron is much closer, but still not the champion #23 was. lebron cant shoot nearly as good as mj did either. he has all that height advantage and still misses open shots. jordan wouldnt miss blocked shots, that guy was just SIC.

LeBron James closer to Jordan than Kobe? HAH!

Jordan and Kobe's talent levels are comparable in my eyes. They both have similar skills and mentalities, so it's a tough call.

Jordan is clearly better than LeBron. James works mainly by charging the basket and passing. Don't get me wrong, James is a phenomenal player, but compared to Jordan his perimeter game is weak, and his clutch game has been awful at times. And of course, Jordan had the fadeaway. That alone puts him a step above.
 

HendrixFan

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Jordan is clearly better than LeBron. James works mainly by charging the basket and passing. Don't get me wrong, James is a phenomenal player, but compared to Jordan his perimeter game is weak, and his clutch game has been awful at times. And of course, Jordan had the fadeaway. That alone puts him a step above.

Stay away from the shot charts like these:

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wirednuts

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LeBron James closer to Jordan than Kobe? HAH!

Jordan and Kobe's talent levels are comparable in my eyes. They both have similar skills and mentalities, so it's a tough call.

Jordan is clearly better than LeBron. James works mainly by charging the basket and passing. Don't get me wrong, James is a phenomenal player, but compared to Jordan his perimeter game is weak, and his clutch game has been awful at times. And of course, Jordan had the fadeaway. That alone puts him a step above.

i hear what youre saying.. jordan is easily a better player overall. but lebron is twice the physical specimen, and WHEN he does decide to play at his abilities there is not a god damn thing ANYONE can do about it. i think lebron in his best moments defeat anything jordan could do, but those moments are so far in between that you cant make the argument for lebron being the better player.

kobe is smaller then both of them, and while i could say kobe has a more natural shot, jordan just made anything he threw up. it didnt matter. kobe had a year or two that was like that, but jordan had like 8 years of it.

lebron vs kobe is a good debate i guess, but if lebron was against kobe in his prime i think lebron still owns him. hes too tall, too big, too fast, too strong. put kobe's willpower in lebrons body and you have a jordan killer, but thats not reality.
 

lupi

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james is better than kobe now, so saying Jordan better than kobe not really a discussion point.
 

2timer

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i hear what youre saying.. jordan is easily a better player overall. but lebron is twice the physical specimen, and WHEN he does decide to play at his abilities there is not a god damn thing ANYONE can do about it. i think lebron in his best moments defeat anything jordan could do, but those moments are so far in between that you cant make the argument for lebron being the better player.

kobe is smaller then both of them, and while i could say kobe has a more natural shot, jordan just made anything he threw up. it didnt matter. kobe had a year or two that was like that, but jordan had like 8 years of it.

lebron vs kobe is a good debate i guess, but if lebron was against kobe in his prime i think lebron still owns him. hes too tall, too big, too fast, too strong. put kobe's willpower in lebrons body and you have a jordan killer, but thats not reality.

That's just it. LeBron is so gifted naturally, he doesn't *have* to work the outside and find shots like MJ did. When LeBron gets a full head of steam, his physique and power are unstoppable. He doesn't really have a "complete" game, so to speak.
 

Farang

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I think Kobe would beat both Lebron and Jordan in 1-on-1. So in terms of bar bet Kobe would be crowned best player. But all-time greatest NBA player is Jordan.