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AzN said:
It still loses to an overclocked i7 930.

Kind of figured Phenom 2 x6 is a wash for a new build. Still a good upgrade path for AM3 mobo owners.
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How's it a wash? Bit-tech reviewers can't even overclock past 4GHz. :rolleyes:
 
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it's not yet certain whether Thuban samples will be hitting 4+ GHz routinely, but the bit-tech review is able to illustrate frequency scaling rather clearly. Thuban was never meant to be anything more than a hex-core K10, so I'm not sure why anyone would expect it to miraculously have higher IPC per core than a quad-core K10.
 
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richierich1212 said:
How's it a wash? Bit-tech reviewers can't even overclock past 4GHz. :rolleyes:
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There's no such thing as guaranteed overclocking so you might as well compare stock vs stock. The numbers speak for themselves. Why is that you can't accept it?
 
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alyarb said:
it's not yet certain whether Thuban samples will be hitting 4+ GHz routinely, but the bit-tech review is able to illustrate frequency scaling rather clearly.
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Tom's, Anand, Bitech all couldn't even pass 4ghz. Did they get retail samples?

I've seen a guy in Hardforum hitting 4.83 ghz with 1055T but at suicide runs. I don't know what cooling he had but I'm guessing water.
 
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And yet, i3 cpu's can hit 4GHz+ easily? Seriously, they didn't even push these Thubans that high. Heck, they probably couldn't even get 965/955 C3 processors past 4GHz and those are known for hitting 4GHz easily.
 
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I am glad AMD is finally responding with an alternative, however they are late in the game and their chip is not always a better alternative. If you overclock and account chipset performance and power consumption, I believe Intel holds the edge with power users.
 
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Bitech was overclocking on 64bit. Anand limited himself to 1.38 volts. Toms I didn't see an overclock.
 
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Hmm, pretty underwhelmed, personally. I would be using these mostly for gaming, and it just doesn't look like its the right chip for the price, especially with those microcenter i7s coming in at 180-200. Was going to build another rig for someone, but I think I"m gonna have to stick with i7.

Hopefully with more of these getting reviews, we'll get to see what the average OC is, since the range seems to be pretty high right now.
 
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I think the 1055T is good value. The CPU itself is dirt cheap and the motherboards are generally cheaper. You can throw together a nice 6 core system for a dirt cheap price, and possibly hit 4Ghz with it. That's nice for the price.

The 1090T seems underwhelming. The i7 930 seems better value at that price range.
 
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AzN said:
Tom's, Anand, Bitech all couldn't even pass 4ghz. Did they get retail samples?

I've seen a guy in Hardforum hitting 4.83 ghz with 1055T but at suicide runs. I don't know what cooling he had but I'm guessing water.
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If i remember correctly Anand used stock cooling and didn't really push the vcore that much. If you buy this with the intent of overclocking it i bet you'll get an aftermarket cooling solution and push the vcore even higher and 4.0 ghz plus will be possible.

Anand did update the X980 test to show how good it overclocked
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2961/intel-core-i7-980x-overclocking-update-breaking-4ghz-with-6-cores

They should do the same with Thuban, maybe they will
 
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Impulse buys! I've just ordered a 1055t from Tigerdirect before I read all of the reviews.

For $125 after rebates, it should be a good upgrade for my e6600 :D.
 
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Gikaseixas said:
after looking at this review i think i'll give it a try

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_1090t_six_core_review/7

it beats an overclocked i7 930 (4.0ghz) even in games, wow not bad AMD, good job. The reviews out there are mixed bag, some show Thuban doing well and some not so well, it's a wash so far.
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so you are saying that based on that obscure site? lol. look at the more well regarded sites and the Thuban X6 is no better than the old X4 was. the i7 is the much better cpu for gaming according to real review sites. hell the i5 is still the best bang for buck setup for best game experience.
 
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yeah but you can't beat $125 AR. i mean jesus. that is some very good computing for the money, especially at 4 ghz or, you know, whatever the range is. it sucks that isn't what the real price is. Thuban has to be $150 or less to compete with i7 overall, and no, it isn't faster, but it's better than Deneb for about the same money you would've paid for a Deneb, and there are some definite advantages for encoding and virtualization.
 
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toyota said:
so you are saying that based on that obscure site? lol. look at the more well regarded sites and the Thuban X6 is no better than the old X4 was. the i7 is the much better cpu for gaming according to real review sites. hell the i5 is still the best bang for buck setup for best game experience.
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Agree with you on gaming but that's not all i do on my pc's. Check Hexus review, they got a 4.0 plus overclock, good encoding results and in heavily threaded games it did good.
 
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