Phenom/Spider platform

[Cookie Monster]

Thats right, Phenoms are faster clock per clock compared to the K8. This has been proven even by forum members from e.g XS forums. I guess the 9500 is the cheapest quad core you can buy right now. Still waiting for the B3 stepping.

 

[bradley]

Originally posted by: Liberator21
Enough with the bashing...he's interested in spider he shouldn't be crucified for it. I haven't even been on these forums all that long and it's really gotten worse since I joined. So yes, thank you everyone for saying the same exact thing we hear every time we read anything AMD.

This forum has definitely fallen on hard times from its heyday.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: Iketh

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Well my rig in sig is pretty close to spider.....just it lacks a K10 and I love it, I have an Intel/Nv rig as well but this is way more fun to OC.

Why would you even consider Phenom at this stage though? Your X2 @ 3.25GHz would beat most overclocked Phenoms hands down. Unless you do a whole heap of encoding of course.

why do u say this?? there are tons of reviews on the web illustrating the performance-per-clock improvement of the phenom core over athlon... ur comment is very uneducated... just as intel fanboys laugh at anyone buying amd right now, i laugh hysterically at 790fx owners running athlon

Perhaps because Phenoms are generally mediocre overclockers? Taking IPC improvements into account, you would need a Phenom @ 3GHz to beat an X2 @ 3.25GHz, yet most 9500/9600 Phenoms top out around 2.6 - 2.8GHz. Some BE 9600s can get to 3GHz, but would require exceptional cooling.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yeah, but cmon, you do get two extra cores. Can we at least wait for the Kuma and Rana dual-core K10s before we make any comparisons between K10 and K8?

 

[Cookie Monster]

So, from what i can tell there are several bugs that affect overall performance of the current phenoms.

1) Theres a bug where the separate power plane for the northbridge/L3 cache cant be clocked higher than 2.0ghz (Barcelona's NB/L3 is clocked at 1.8ghz). Where AMD planned to clock this part much higher than the actual cpu core clock speed.
2) Problems with running DDR2-1066 memory (according to several sites, and users)
3) The infamous TLB errata

Any others that come to mind?

 

[batmang]

Originally posted by: perdomot
I was reading the review below and got curious if anyone here had taken the plunge:
http://www.i4u.com/full-review-363.html

What got me thinking most was about the stability of the rig and the reviewers impressions of a speedy system.

I wil be all setup by next friday. Ordering my stuff this weekend.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2147773&enterthread=y

 

[batmang]

I got my parts in and I'm up and running. Doing some light benchmarking now. Crysis is running pretty good. I'm anxious to get a second 3870 in hopes of crossfire adding some more frames in the future.

Here is my current FPS results in Crysis 1.1 with my CPU at 2.5GHz. (I'm running Vista 64 btw)

- 1680x1050 - DX10 - 64Bit - Medium Quality - 33.3FPS Average over 3 tests
- 1680x1050 - DX10 - 64Bit - High Quality - 20.67FPS Average over 3 tests

I'm pretty much spot on with this review fps wise:
http://www.techspot.com/articl...-performance-multigpu/

I scored 10329 in 3DMark06 at defaults settings (2.3GHz). I've yet to run it at 2.5Ghz.

Heres some pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jm...rPlatformComputerBuild

I'm pretty happy with this computer. Performs well, runs cool, was easy to setup, has future upgradeability (is that a word? lol). All in all, I'm pleased.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Iketh
i own the dfi 790fx and phenom 9500 with an nvidia 7950gt and am very happy.. will be happier once i purchase the 3870 or 3870x2

At least you bought the most competent board for Phenom. That's always a good place to start. And yeah, you're definitely GPU-limited right now.

i kinda got pulled into this system by purchasing the phenom as soon as it came out for my asus m2n-e board

So, why aren't you still using the M2N-E?

 

[batmang]

Any other Spider people?