Phenom II info leaks out, AMD hints at something

[ajaidevsingh]

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2238/phen24zi1.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/817/phen2ly2.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3362/phen23iy6.jpg


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http://66.196.80.202/babelfish...news.php%3fnews%3d2517

http://66.196.80.202/babelfish...news.php%3fnews%3d2518


Seem's the numbering scheme was correct after all that means these slides can be quite real after all...!!!

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081118PD206.html

 

[daveybrat]

Wow, very interesting.....looks like that Black Edition has some nice overclocking headroom!

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Looks good, can't wait to see some benches. *Crosses fingers*. I'm kind of an Intel fanboy but I'm always rooting for AMD. Nothing drops prices and increases performance like competition.

 

[daveybrat]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Looks good, can't wait to see some benches. *Crosses fingers*. I'm kind of an Intel fanboy but I'm always rooting for AMD. Nothing drops prices and increases performance like competition.

QFT

 

[ajaidevsingh]

happpy i am that i did not spend my laptop money and get a core i7 platform.....

Maybe Q6600 to a PII 940 would be a jump better than a jump to i7 boat in terms of price/performance.......hell this is great news :evil:

 

[dmens]

that first slide looks like a huge case of false marketing to me

 

[Zap]

Very interesting!

 

[JPB]

If true...maybe in the spring time my future upgrades just may be AMD then. Who knows.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Ahh, that looks nice, real nice!

 

[Phynaz]

Originally posted by: dmens
that first slide looks like a huge case of false marketing to me

What marketing? These slides don't even have a source.

Although the marketing of "total cache" sounds like AMD.

 

[SlowSpyder]

This reminds me of the Radeon 2900 -> 4800 evolution. When the 2900 came out it wasn't bad, but it was pretty underwhelming. After some tweaking and revising we have the very solid performing 48x0 cards. I'm thinking that this revision of the Phenom will be similar. The original Phenoms were failry underwhelming compared to the competition, they weren't bad, but they certianly weren't good enough comared to the C2D's. I think (hope) that this revision will do to Phenom what the 4870 did to the Radeons.

I am looking forward to dropping one of these 8MB quads into my AM2+ board. That and a 4870 ought to make for a pretty potent gaming rig. I guess I'll have to tell the wife that I need to upgrde my monitor then. That's a lot of horse power to run on a smallish 22" monitor.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Phynaz

Originally posted by: dmens
that first slide looks like a huge case of false marketing to me

What marketing? These slides don't even have a source.

Although the marketing of "total cache" sounds like AMD.

True, but total cache for AMD means more than Intel, since they have exclusive cache and not inclusive.

I love the new naming scheme though! Much nicer than that 5 digit mess that was rumored before!

 

[dennilfloss]

Hey! I just might get this instead of a E8600 if the price is right and resist teh INTEL evil..

 

[BLaber]

Originally posted by: Phynaz

Originally posted by: dmens
that first slide looks like a huge case of false marketing to me

What marketing? These slides don't even have a source.

These slide have come from : THIS SOURCE

I know you don't trust this site , but its OK for some future AMD Deneb road map news. :thumbsup:

 

[malkuth74]

Sounds like good news. Even though I will have to deal with my new DUO 3 GZ for year or more... Its nice to know that AMD will come back and keep intel honest.

Hate AMD all you want, without them you would still be paying 500-1000 bucks for an overpriced Intel Chip.

 

[Idontcare]

Lol 920 and 940.

Why not just go the last step and call them Phenom II X4 i7 920.

Wonders when the 965 is coming...not shown on any of the roadmaps.

The purported overclocking headroom is nice but it makes one wonder why they don't offer higher clocked (and higher priced) SKU's if the 940's really can clock to 4GHz territory. Something doesn't seem quite right there.

 

[dmens]

Originally posted by: BLaber
These slide have come from : THIS SOURCE

I know you don't trust this site , but its OK for some future AMD Deneb road map news. :thumbsup:

yeah thats nice. lets see if amd claims ownership of that big arrow claiming "massive headroom". in this world called reality, any frequency headroom is totally used up to power limitations. but then again, ACP is a big load of crap.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: dmens

Originally posted by: BLaber
These slide have come from : THIS SOURCE

I know you don't trust this site , but its OK for some future AMD Deneb road map news. :thumbsup:

yeah thats nice. lets see if amd claims ownership of that big arrow claiming "massive headroom". in this world called reality, any frequency headroom is totally used up to power limitations. but then again, ACP is a big load of crap.

You mean amps, right? ACP is a load of amps.

(sorry, really sad EE joke)

 

[piesquared]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

The purported overclocking headroom is nice but it makes one wonder why they don't offer higher clocked (and higher priced) SKU's if the 940's really can clock to 4GHz territory. Something doesn't seem quite right there.

That's a fairly curious statement right there. I can think of a few architectures in the last, oh, 15 years that have had great O/Cing characteristics yet not quite fit into their targeted power envelopes. Anyway, releasing high priced SKU's is a waste of time in the current economic trouble. I doubt very much that Intel will move many i965's.

 

[daveybrat]

Even if these processors fail to overclock as the graphs show......it really won't matter to me as i don't overclock anyways. I'm just more interested in upgrading my rig with a fast Quad-core and new cheaper motherboard....all while using my current ram!

I can't afford an Intel i7 $800+ upgrade!

 

[eternalone]

Well if it benches well you know what this means gentleman. PRICE WAR!!!!!! :shocked:

Great deals for us 2009!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

But AMD has to come out the gate with great prices, they should do this, not saying they will but they should.

 

[Cookie Monster]

So the 9x5 points out that its an AM3 processor, i.e supporting DDR3 memory. Its interesting to note that the AM3 denebs have a TDP of 95Ws compared to 125W of the initial wave of deneb chips.

The launch of deneb looks much more promising than agena's failed launch. I wonder if the FX series might hit the retail scene again due to the overclocking headroom that the deneb chips supposedly have.

So does anyone here think that the 3.0GHz X4 940 BE is a direct competitor to the 2.93GHz i7 940? Things are getting much more interesting.

edit - i have a sneaky suspicion that AMD might launch the FX series along with the AM3 denebs. If the X4 9x5 models have a TDP of 95W and under, then the FX series might possible be a 125~130W TDP chip.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Things before were AMD had the edge in performance and price. Now Intel beat the crap out of them with performance. So, with that equation, Intel's performance competing against AMD's competitor must mean some serious performing chips in the future ;climax;

 

[Lemon law]

We should not confuse short term with long term. But give cigars to those that realize a healthy AMD keep intel prices down while motivating intel to keep pushing speeds up.

But in the immediate short term, intel is now beating AMD at price/performance, and as a result AMD is losing bucketfulls of money. What we are seeing in this thread may be the last fruits of AMD
R&D in the cash intensive pipeline, so it may be a long term worry to see AMD go belly up.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: piesquared

Originally posted by: Idontcare

The purported overclocking headroom is nice but it makes one wonder why they don't offer higher clocked (and higher priced) SKU's if the 940's really can clock to 4GHz territory. Something doesn't seem quite right there.

That's a fairly curious statement right there. I can think of a few architectures in the last, oh, 15 years that have had great O/Cing characteristics yet not quite fit into their targeted power envelopes. Anyway, releasing high priced SKU's is a waste of time in the current economic trouble. I doubt very much that Intel will move many i965's.

Targeted power envelopes is part of the SKU. Higher clocked SKU obviously entails higher-TDP envelope.

This was obvious wasn't it?

Higher priced SKU's are no more a waste of time than being in business at all when losing money every quarter.