Phenom II 940 Stock, This huge bottleneck for 5870?

[rpglord]

I get 12k on 3dmark vantage and I have 260 gtx !
Let's take it one step at a time :
First,what settings do you use for vantage ? Is it default setting ( perfomance ) 1280x1024 resolution ?

 

[Gabranth]

Originally posted by: rpglord
I get 12k on 3dmark vantage and I have 260 gtx !
Let's take it one step at a time :
First,what settings do you use for vantage ? Is it default setting ( perfomance ) 1280x1024 resolution ?

Yeah... default performance test..

 

[rpglord]

I just ran vantage without physx and got 9k gpu 5k cpu...
Your scores are higher now that I disabled physx,since ati doesn't support physx,but they probably should be higher still.
Do you remember other games ? Forget vantage. When I change gpu I always test pretty much everything I play,and then just plug in new card and see the difference.
Do you get 50 % speedup in Crysis ? Some other games ? You said you did get more then 50 % in Risen so probably everything is ok...might be just some issue with vantage ?
Lets try this : Lets compare crysis perfomance. I have a little bit weaker cpu and 260 gtx.
I ran crysis at all details max,( very high ) with 16 AF and 4x AA and 1680x1050 res
I use start of assault level to test - I get 21 fps..according to some review I read on 5870 it should be about 50-70 % faster then 285 ( I have 260 overclocked pretty hard so it perfoms on par with 285 9
So you should be getting the minimum 30 fps with my setting and resolution..try it and then we can figure it out if it's just vantage problem or not

 

[alcoholbob]

All the reviews show at least 30fps with 1080p @ 4XAA with Crysis max settings on an HD5870.

Average 21 is seriously off. A Phenom II isn't the fastest CPU but you shouldn't be getting 40-50% less than the i7 review systems out there.

 

[BFG10K]

Is vsync off?

 

[Gabranth]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Is vsync off?

Yep

 

[netxzero64]

well if a 5870 is bottleneck for a stock Phenom II X4 940BE then how high should it be OC'ed to eliminate the bottleneck?

 

[EffKay]

Does the M3A78-T support PCI-E 16x in all slots?
Or basically are all the graphics PCI-E slots only 8x slots or worse? 8x 4x 8x?

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=PaJTmB4aZ9WAYnM6

I would imagine that the card would be limited if it were in a PCI-E 8x slot?

Tried all the slots?

Then perhaps the older AMD 780 chipset is not as high performance as the newer 790GX etc....
I'd imagine AMD designed the HD58xx to work best with their newer chipsets.

 

[crazylegs]

Didn't want to start a new thread and my question also relates to CPU / ATI HD 5*** series bottlenecks.

My scenario is that i'm currently running a CD2 E8400 @ 4.0ghz, 4GB RAM, Vista x64, was wondering if anyone had seen any reviews comapring an overclocked Dual Core to stock / OC Quads in a series of games / applications. My desired res is 1920x1200. Probably due for a system overhaul but yould like to jsu tpop in a new GPU for now, not a massive gamer any more, but do like the look of the upcoming COD and always play some WOW

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: crazylegs
Didn't want to start a new thread and my question also relates to CPU / ATI HD 5*** series bottlenecks.

My scenario is that i'm currently running a CD2 E8400 @ 4.0ghz, 4GB RAM, Vista x64, was wondering if anyone had seen any reviews comapring an overclocked Dual Core to stock / OC Quads in a series of games / applications. My desired res is 1920x1200. Probably due for a system overhaul but yould like to jsu tpop in a new GPU for now, not a massive gamer any more, but do like the look of the upcoming COD and always play some WOW

well at 1920x1200 your cpu is easily fine for up to a single 5870. only in 2 or 3 games would a really fast quad provide any real benefit above what your overclocked E8400 can do. now if you were to run two 5850 or especially two 5870 cards would you need an i5/i7 to get all the performance they are capable of. the 5850 is the much better deal right now and can likely be overclocked to right at 5870 levels. in fact the memory is supposedly the same on the 5850 as it is on the 5870.

 

[phantom404]

Did you try messing with the Catalyst AI setting?

 

[*kjm]

Gabranth do you have a friends system you could try the card in? I looked around the web and that MB has had some major issues. If you try it in another system at least you will know if it's the video card or not. If you can find a friend that runs ATI, all the better they would just have to update thier CCC/

 

[alcoholbob]

Dual is fine, you don't need a quad to open up a single card like a 5870. Quad is more important for SLI/CF load balancing; that's where the difference starts to open up.

 

[*kjm]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
Dual is fine, you don't need a quad to open up a single card like a 5870. Quad is more important for SLI/CF load balancing; that's where the difference starts to open up.

Astrallite is right my Vantage above was ran at 1680X1050.....

 

[crazylegs]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: crazylegs
Didn't want to start a new thread and my question also relates to CPU / ATI HD 5*** series bottlenecks.

My scenario is that i'm currently running a CD2 E8400 @ 4.0ghz, 4GB RAM, Vista x64, was wondering if anyone had seen any reviews comapring an overclocked Dual Core to stock / OC Quads in a series of games / applications. My desired res is 1920x1200. Probably due for a system overhaul but yould like to jsu tpop in a new GPU for now, not a massive gamer any more, but do like the look of the upcoming COD and always play some WOW

well at 1920x1200 your cpu is easily fine for up to a single 5870. only in 2 or 3 games would a really fast quad provide any real benefit above what your overclocked E8400 can do. now if you were to run two 5850 or especially two 5870 cards would you need an i5/i7 to get all the performance they are capable of. the 5850 is the much better deal right now and can likely be overclocked to right at 5870 levels. in fact the memory is supposedly the same on the 5850 as it is on the 5870.

Kool. thanks for the reply - sorry for the minor thread hi-jack!

Thought my OC dual core could last a little while longer and yeah a 5850 would probably be at the upper end of my budget. Also i'm one of those types who is more than happy with 80% (or 90% with some OCing) of the performance for 60% of the cost

 

[Gabranth]

ATI RELEASED NEW DRIVERS... AND GUESS WHAT!?

http://i36.tinypic.com/11vgm7l.png

!!!

Far cry 1920X1080 8XAA Ultra: ~58 fps average: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29p3qer&s=4

Crysis 1680X1050 8XAA Very High: ~33 fps average: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oa0r5h&s=4

 

[Qbah]

Looks like you're fine with 15k GPU, right? That was like 11k before? What about Crysis? And for the love of god, drop it to AAx2 when running 19x12 Enthusiast, at most

EDIT: And those scores look pretty much inline with reviews. Looks like your problem is gone.

 

[Gabranth]

Originally posted by: Qbah
Looks like you're fine with 15k GPU, right? That was like 11k before? What about Crysis? And for the love of god, drop it to AAx2 when running 19x12 Enthusiast, at most

Heh yeah

Havent tried warhead, but in "normal" crysis 33fps average with 8XAA! 1920X1080 doesnt work somehow so that's why i benched with 1680X1050 :E

Min 17.84 Avg 33.64 Max 47.04

Thats crazy, in my last bench my max was 17...now its the minimum