Pharmacist who killed robber guilty of murder

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Should have been manslaughter...in my opinion once someone opens the door for defense ANYTHING that happens after should be a lesser charge. It's ultimately THEIR fault for starting the situation. Yeah, what he did was wrong...should have fired 3 initially, not 1 then 5, etc (even though he likely would have died anyway).

Still, they were worthless pieces of shit who deserved to die, so make it a lesser offense. Up until he returned and fired again he was a hero, and that should matter.
 

olds

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As a society, we have gotten too pussified. If someone comes into your home or business waving a gun, we should shoot them in the face till dead. Then less people will be waving guns at people and trying to take their possessions. It just makes for a more polite society and we have fewer criminals.

Instead we'd rather cower in a closet and feel sorry that someone had to resort to taking someone else's hard earned property/money. And I don't care that it's just a possession. It's the principle of a person thinking it's OK to wave guns and take another's things. We don't need people like that.
 
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i can't believe the idiots in ATOT persecuting a man who is defending himself and/or his property.
excessive force my ass. you come in with the intent to rob/harm/kill, whether you succeed or not, you forfeit your right to live.
 

Binarycow

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I live about 5 miles away from that pharmacy and let me tell you: that place had been robbed literally 10 times over the last few years. That part of town used to be decent till the last 10-12 years or so. It may not have been legal for him to shoot that piece of shit the second time but that pharmacist did all of us who live around here a big favor. If that POS didn't die that day he would go out and rob more people at his gun-point.

Nothing is like low-life scumbags who wait for other people to earn their living through blood and sweat then swoop in to rob them, repeatedly. That pharmacist basically spent all he had (over 100K) on his lawyers and now will also go to jail for the rest of his life. I'm very pacific myself but I doubt I would have done it differently had I been in his position.
 

Zebo

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That mother is retarded. Hope she has no more she enabled to be hero armed robbers.
 
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I live about 5 miles away from that pharmacy and let me tell you: that place had been robbed literally 10 times over the last few years. That part of town used to be decent till the last 10-12 years or so. It may not have been legal for him to shoot that piece of shit the second time but that pharmacist did all of us who live around here a big favor. If that POS didn't die that day he would go out and rob more people at his gun-point.

Nothing is like low-life scumbags who wait for other people to earn their living through blood and sweat then swoop in to rob them, repeatedly. That pharmacist basically spent all he had (over 100K) on his lawyers and now will also go to jail for the rest of his life. I'm very pacific myself but I doubt I would have done it differently had I been in his position.

what caused the quality of life in the town to go downhill?
 

chalmers

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Here's a pro tip. Try not running into a place of business waving a gun, and I guarantee you bad things will happen less often to you!
 

Binarycow

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what caused the quality of life in the town to go downhill?

The usual. Whites move out, certain minorities move in. Some here would label that pharmacist as a racist so let me say this: even if he were a racist I would rather have him as my neighbor and do business with him considering the guy is an upstanding citizen and has worked hard all his life. I'm not white BTW.
 

Zee

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I live about 5 miles away from that pharmacy and let me tell you: that place had been robbed literally 10 times over the last few years. That part of town used to be decent till the last 10-12 years or so. It may not have been legal for him to shoot that piece of shit the second time but that pharmacist did all of us who live around here a big favor. If that POS didn't die that day he would go out and rob more people at his gun-point.

Nothing is like low-life scumbags who wait for other people to earn their living through blood and sweat then swoop in to rob them, repeatedly. That pharmacist basically spent all he had (over 100K) on his lawyers and now will also go to jail for the rest of his life. I'm very pacific myself but I doubt I would have done it differently had I been in his position.

here here.
 

Svnla

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From the article

Some said the shooting had a racist element because Mr. Ersland is white, and the slain teenager was black
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Oh, the racist card again. Fail in life, pull the race card and blame everyone but self.

I am not white but my chance of getting shot from the HONEST HARD WORKING owner(s) is none to zero...........because I don't plan to rob anyone anytime. Too busy working hard to better myself.

I am sooooo ashame of myself for acting white and not keeping it real. Word!!! <sarcasm>
 
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PlasmaBomb

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Here's a pro tip. Try not running into a place of business waving a gun, and I guarantee you bad things will happen less often to you!

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edro

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He should have shot him in the legs if he thought the kids might still be a threat.
 

Zebo

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Some of you guys need to watch the video

- Retrieved his revolver
- Shot the first robber
- Ran outside of his store and chased after the second fleeing robber
- Came back to the store, calmly reloaded his revolver and walked over and finished off the first robber

That's playing judge jury and executioner thats murder
 

brainhulk

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Did you even read the article in the link you posted?

ok, i finally read the article fully. and yes, i agree going back to shoot maybe a bit excessive. I got worked up about reading the first couple of sentences that someone defending themselves from armed intruders is probably gonna end up in jail for a very long time...
 

chalmers

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Some of you guys need to watch the video

- Retrieved his revolver
- Shot the first robber
- Ran outside of his store and chased after the second fleeing robber
- Came back to the store, calmly reloaded his revolver and walked over and finished off the first robber

That's playing judge jury and executioner thats murder

I'm responding to your signature. It hasn't worked or not worked for me, because I don't give a shit about politics and I don't vote. I'm not sure why you're asking me.
 

frostedflakes

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2nd degree murder? Why? his intent was to kill the guy. 1 shot fine....2nd or manslaughter. However, he shot him 5 times when he was laying on the ground. He just executed him.
I'm all for self defense, but from what I've read it sounds like the jury got it right on this one. The initial shooting in self defense was justified, but there was no justification for him to come back and shoot the robber again after he had been incapacitated. It absolutely is first degree murder because it was premeditated and not acting in the heat of the moment and in self defense because you feared for your life. That the kid probably would have died anyway is irrelevant.
 

olds

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Some of you guys need to watch the video

- Retrieved his revolver
- Shot the first robber
- Ran outside of his store and chased after the second fleeing robber
- Came back to the store, calmly reloaded his revolver and walked over and finished off the first robber

That's playing judge jury and executioner thats murder
Don't care. If the asshole hadn't been there to rob, he wouldn't have been shot.
 

JS80

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His crime is very much 1st degree murder. He chose to execute someone and it wasn't in the heat of the moment. He came back to the victim and finished him off. He made a very poor choice in doing that and became the monster he was fighting.

What if he had survived and later he and his homies come back for revenge?
 

Zebo

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Don't care. If the asshole hadn't been there to rob, he wouldn't have been shot.

Then next time you guys get called up for jury duty don't weasel out and use nullification.

His actions in the end were 100&#37; illegal tho.
 
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olds

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Then next time you guys get called up for jury duty don't weasel out and use nullification.

His actions in the end were 100% illegal tho.
I wouldn't have convicted the pharmacist. He did everyone a favor.