Your belief. Not the pharmacists.
Regardless you failed to answer the question. Why not go to another pharmacy? Oh, and since public health is SOOO important why are the libs telling the pharmacy to close down?
Since when did it become yours or the governments job to tell a businessman what to sell? Last time I checked that was the duty of the customers.
It doesn't matter what it is, no business should be forced to sell anything they do not want to.
Can we also now force doctors to perform abortions? Can consumers demand that gun stores sell automatic weapons?
done
No, it's a fact. How ignorant are these pharmacists that they can make up crap like this? How ignorant are you that you believe them?
Plan B is an emergency contraceptive that prevents pregnancy. End of story.
"Goto another pharmacist"
While this is the easy solution in an urban area like Chicago in more rural areas a few pharmacists don't want to carry this drug and bam - it suddenly becomes very difficult for someone to getahold of emergency medication.
"close your legs"
nice one! how about keep your d!ck in your pants too?
zendari -- Pharmacists are licensed by the state to provide essential health care goods and services. It is up to the legislators of the state to define the terms and conditions for such a license, hopefully in the best interests of all the citizens of the state.
Unless it is found to be unconstitutional, the state may mandate that a pharmacist may not allow religious beliefs to interfere with his mandated job. If the pharmacist disagrees, he should practice his profession wherever he is allowed to do so consistant with his beliefs.
Sorry if such rational thinking defeats yet another of your irrational excuses to bash "democrats" and "liberals."
Emergency medication? What happens if she doesnt get her emergency medication? Does she die? Does she become paralyzed?
I mean this is just getting silly.
If he doesnt sell the pill they can go elsewhere. More govt control is all this is.
Judging by your reponse earlier in this thread that could be considered genuine frontier gibberish. I am assuming your ability to repoduce was revoked long ago by nature.
have a condom break with a gf and you tell me if you think it's an emergency (note that i never said life threatening). you completely ignored my point about more rural areas and the difficulty of getting to other pharmacies if a few places refuse to carry this pill.
The lets do this, close down the pharmecies and let the state pickup the bill. Sounds to me like it is a state run business anyways.
When we are done with that lets move onto grocery stores. Nothing pisses me off more than to have a grocery store not carry my favorite brand of ice cream. It is vital that after I get done banging my women and hit the state run pharmecy for the "emergency" contraception that we hit the grocery store for some "emergency" after sex ice cream.
It is my right as a human being to not be denied these services!
does it say anywhere that this guy has to give out the pills for free?
ice cream IS on about the same level with emergency contraceptives - i don't know why i didn't see things your way before.
The point is why is the govt getting involved at all in a privately owned business? He isnt selling bad drugs to anybody, nobody is getting killed over this.
Is the sole reason for this the expectation that anybody can walk into a pharmecy in the state of Illinois and recieve the same product? The has state run communism written all over it. Where will it end next? Should everybody be able to walk into an electronics store and see the same product? How about grocery stores?
I know my examples are outrageous but they serve a point. To show the idiocy of the argument that the govt should be allowed to control what a private business sells.
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Do you support a similar view on physicians who would not perform an abortion?
Should those physicians be on a list of substandard practioners?
they are involved b/c:
1. not anyone can sell drugs (legally)
2. drugs are important to the well being of the citizens (in some instances debatable but it's best to not try to pick and choose what is important since no one is forcing you to take the available drugs)
3. the well being of the citizens shouldn't be entirely in the hands of private business (I think history has made this pretty clear as to why)
That's interesting, because liberals are telling this guy to find another field of work and close his pharmacy down. Hypocrites.
Nobody is being denied a service. They are merely not providing it.
Here's a question: Since you feel pharmacies are "obligated" to provide this pill, if they stock up and run out, can they be arrested?
I never said I agreed with him. I'd probably fire a pharmacist who was compromising revenue in such a fashion.
This is an issue of customers and owners, not the state.
Originally posted by: Harvey
zendari -- Pharmacists are licensed by the state to provide essential health care goods and services. It is up to the legislators of the state to define the terms and conditions for such a license, hopefully in the best interests of all the citizens of the state.
Unless it is found to be unconstitutional, the state may mandate that a pharmacist may not allow religious beliefs to interfere with his mandated job. If the pharmacist disagrees, he should practice his profession wherever he is allowed to do so consistant with his beliefs.
Sorry if such rational thinking defeats yet another of your irrational excuses to bash "democrats" and "liberals."
Funny. The Patriot Act is law and you find the need to bash it and conservatives.
There's nothing funny about the Patriot Act, but as an American citizen, I still have the right to voice my objections to it... at least until the Bushwhackos crawl into my library borrowing habits and, without the benefit of an open hearing, determine they should send me off to Guantanimo as an "enemy combatant." :shocked:
I know a number of genuine "conservatives." Like me, they're apalled at what this administration has done while clinging to that label. Raping the Constitution, going into a war based on lies and running the nation into trillions in debt your great grand children will be paying off is NOT conservative. It's radically stupid. :|
LMAO. Here is an easier than criminal solution....go into a career that doesn't require you to do something that is now illegal to pacify your beliefs.
What if the "possible mother to be" has had, through no fault of her own, a couple of miscarriages that put her in a high-risk for death if she were to get pregnant. Does this tool's poor career choice that conflicts with his belief system trump her right to possibly save her life?
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This is a mucked up situation. I can see how a person may not want to sell something that contravenes their religious beliefs, but at the same time think they should not deny others just because they themselves wouldn't/couldn't. If a Pharmacist can deny stocking/dispensing certain Medications for religious reasons, then certainly Pharmacies must also have the Right to ask a potential employee what his/her Religion is and base their hiring upon that.
Can't wait for the inevitable, "Pharmacy x discriminates against Religion y" that will result from this wonky idea.
Can't wait for the inevitable, "Pharmacy x discriminates against Religion y" that will result from this wonky idea.
Yes.
We allow doctors to refuse abortions, and rightfully so. Pharmacists also deserve the same right to refuse ethically void procedures, and do have such a right in most states.
When he started his career, there were no laws going against his belief system. The law was established afterwards. If a woman is in that kind of a situation in a rural area, then the couple should not be depending just on condoms to prevent pregnancy. The government is putting an honest man out of business who is causing no harm to society. In the most rural areas of Illinois, the nearest town with multiple pharmacies isn't more than an hour away. Food is a neccessary commodity. If a vegetarian shop owner decides not to sell meat at their grociery store, should the government shut them down. What if the store is rural. Should a rural grociery store be required to carry baby formula? And be open 24 hours? What if the mother decided not to breast feed an ran out and didn't notice until the middle of the night? If you want theoreticals, we can take them to any end.
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