Petition to Recall Gray Davis

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Davis and his "raise sales tax" bull have to stop. I'm in.

Ummm... Where would you suggest we get the money to pay for schools, roads, police, fire, paramedics, etc. Bush-lite's lame tax cut ideas won't help. He's driving all the states deep into the tank. :disgust:

 

[Red Dawn]

Hey when we attack Iraq we'll all forget our economic troubles and tune in every night to watch the best show on TV. The War against Iraq

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey when we attack Iraq we'll all forget our economic troubles and tune in every night to watch the best show on TV. The War against Iraq

And then what do we do after those two days?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey when we attack Iraq we'll all forget our economic troubles and tune in every night to watch the best show on TV. The War against Iraq

And then what do we do after those two days?

Complain about paying $4 a gallon for gasoline

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Davis and his "raise sales tax" bull have to stop. I'm in.

Ummm... Where would you suggest we get the money to pay for schools, roads, police, fire, paramedics, etc. Bush-lite's lame tax cut ideas won't help. He's driving all the states deep into the tank. :disgust:

Agreed. The ars in the White House now with his tax givaway has shifted the revenue burden for things such as schools, roads, police, water, environment protection to the states, that up until this jerk with his economic lopsided policy was put in control, with his congressional minions doing his bidding, have put not just California, but just about every state in the Union now having to raise taxes to shore up the leak in revenue that was once helped by federal tax money. This is effecting everything from police to hospital and medical funding, to upgrading schools, roads, hospitals, jails, bridges, waterways, etc.


Go ahead republicans, try blaming this on Clinton. See how far it gets you in 2004.:disgust:

 

[InverseOfNeo]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: iwearnosox Davis and his "raise sales tax" bull have to stop. I'm in.

Ummm... Where would you suggest we get the money to pay for schools, roads, police, fire, paramedics, etc. Bush-lite's lame tax cut ideas won't help. He's driving all the states deep into the tank. :disgust:

Agreed. The ars in the White House now with his tax givaway has shifted the revenue burden for things such as schools, roads, police, water, environment protection to the states, that up until this jerk with his economic lopsided policy was put in control, with his congressional minions doing his bidding, have put not just California, but just about every state in the Union now having to raise taxes to shore up the leak in revenue that was once helped by federal tax money. This is effecting everything from police to hospital and medical funding, to upgrading schools, roads, hospitals, jails, bridges, waterways, etc. Go ahead republicans, try blaming this on Clinton. See how far it gets you in 2004.:disgust:

well said!!!

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot

Go ahead republicans, try blaming this on Clinton. See how far it gets you in 2004.:disgust:

At least as far as it got them in 2002. I'm sure a campaign centered on restoring higher tax rates is going to go far. The basic fact is, the public loves the Democrat's quasi-socialism, but doesn't want to pay for it, so we get a national debt which has gone nowhere but up the last 30+ years (the vast majority of which were under a Democratic Congress). Bush's tax cuts are just hastening the reckoning.

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: Tripleshot

Go ahead republicans, try blaming this on Clinton. See how far it gets you in 2004.:disgust:

At least as far as it got them in 2002. I'm sure a campaign centered on restoring higher tax rates is going to go far. The basic fact is, the public loves the Democrat's quasi-socialism, but doesn't want to pay for it, so we get a national debt which has gone nowhere but up the last 30+ years (the vast majority of which were under a Democratic Congress). Bush's tax cuts are just hastening the reckoning

What the hell are you talking about? When Bush entered the White House, he had a surplus to work with, instead he turned it into the largest deficet in 30 years IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS OF GOVERNING!

Election 2002 was by no-ones measure a "landslide" mandate. The only hope Bush could ever have at re election in 2004 is a decisive win over terrorism----Mind you I said TERRORISM. NOT IRAQ! This damn war drum he is beating against Saddam is to cover the silence of his failure to get Osama and clean up Afghanistan. That job is not finished YET!

And we haven't even started on the economy,which is spireling out of control right now, with inflation already at a 30 year high,and no real recovery in sight. Hell, things are so bad, Bush just fires the people he doesn't like, blames them, and hires somebody else who is a yes man to him. Its pure B.S. Its a re hashed reagonomics scheme that still hasn't brought the prosperity so many dumbsh!t republicans think it has.

2004 is going to be the last of the Bush era. Half the fiield of Dems going against Bush now could beat him. Hell, Pat Buchannan could beat him if the election where held today, even Nader!

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The Republican Party in California is so fractured at the moment. They were beaten across the board in the last election. It's not that Californians are so liberal it's that the Californian Republican Party is such a joke.

no argument there. i would have voted for riordan though

 

[Mursilis]

What the hell are you talking about? When Bush entered the White House, he had a surplus to work with, instead he turned it into the largest deficet in 30 years IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS OF GOVERNING!

Sorry, but you and most of the rest of the public were fooled - sure, we had a surplus, but that's only if you included Social Security contributions (which were already earmarked toward future SS payments) with general discretionary revenue, which is what Congress did. Private companies would not be allowed to do something similar (for example, count pension fund contributions as part of the revenue stream), but Congress doesn't play by those rules. Fact is, the national debt only rose during the 90's - in never declined. If Congress ever used honest book-keeping, the same standards private companies are supposed to use, there never would have been a surplus. It would have been exposed for the mirage it was. I fault the media for not doing a better job of exposing the 'surplus' fraud for what it was - a pure lie by any reasonable standard. And both parties are at fault for that charade.

Election 2002 was by no-ones measure a "landslide" mandate. The only hope Bush could ever have at re election in 2004 is a decisive win over terrorism----Mind you I said TERRORISM. NOT IRAQ! This damn war drum he is beating against Saddam is to cover the silence of his failure to get Osama and clean up Afghanistan. That job is not finished YET!

Whether it was a "landslide" or not, the Dems had no message and lost when they should have won.

And we haven't even started on the economy,which is spireling out of control right now, with inflation already at a 30 year high,and no real recovery in sight. Hell, things are so bad, Bush just fires the people he doesn't like, blames them, and hires somebody else who is a yes man to him. Its pure B.S. Its a re hashed reagonomics scheme that still hasn't brought the prosperity so many dumbsh!t republicans think it has.

2004 is going to be the last of the Bush era. Half the fiield of Dems going against Bush now could beat him. Hell, Pat Buchannan could beat him if the election where held today, even Nader!

Please continue to believe that. While I'm no fan of Bush's economic policy (I'd much prefer a balanced budget), I certainly don't trust the Dem's to do any better. It's not like the tax and spend party has any sort of track record of fiscal prudence.

 

[BaDaBooM]

Ok, I'm not in California, so I won't say ye or ney. However can someone answer me this? What is different about right now than back in November when California re-elected him? I mean, from what I have heard, Gray Davis sucks. He had a huge surplus when he came in and now they are so far in the hole it's ridiculous. However this isn't new information... they knew about this in November and they re-elected him anyway. I mean, it was a legit election so why overturn democracy? If that's who they want... well....

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Ok, I'm not in California, so I won't say ye or ney. However can someone answer me this? What is different about right now than back in November when California re-elected him? I mean, from what I have heard, Gray Davis sucks. He had a huge surplus when he came in and now they are so far in the hole it's ridiculous. However this isn't new information... they knew about this in November and they re-elected him anyway. I mean, it was a legit election so why overturn democracy? If that's who they want... well....

Overturn democracy? We the people created recall here in California, so we can repeal our dumb decisions and compensate for our stupidity. It's part of our state consitution.

He was re-elected because he was the lesser of two evils to most of us. Even still he barely won by a few percentage points, despite spending twice as much on his negative ad campaign.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Ok, I'm not in California, so I won't say ye or ney. However can someone answer me this? What is different about right now than back in November when California re-elected him? I mean, from what I have heard, Gray Davis sucks. He had a huge surplus when he came in and now they are so far in the hole it's ridiculous. However this isn't new information... they knew about this in November and they re-elected him anyway. I mean, it was a legit election so why overturn democracy? If that's who they want... well....

Overturn democracy? We the people created recall here in California, so we can repeal our dumb decisions and compensate for our stupidity. It's part of our state consitution.

He was re-elected because he was the lesser of two evils to most of us. Even still he barely won by a few percentage points, despite spending twice as much on his negative ad campaign.

Basically people just reelected Gray Davis. Now the republicans aren't happy that they lost the election, so they are trying to recall Davis.
Most of the things that they are blaming Davis for hapenned before the election, and were very well publicized, and still Simon lost.
I don't like Davis, but I also don't like these efforts by the republicans to do by recall what they couldn't do by election just a couple months ago. The people have registered their will at the polls, and its time to let Davis do his job, and let voters decide at the next election if they want to keep him around.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
He just got reelected. Do Republicans not like democracy?

isn't it obvious? elections are irrelevant to them they have no viable alternatives, they have nothing that they would or could do differently. cutting schools? with no money you cut everything regardless of your party.. unless your a magic money elf, which apparently some republicans think they are.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: dirtboy
... so if you'd like to see Davis out and you live in California, sign up for a Recall Petition, located in the site below.

Davis won the election with the most votes. Where do I sign the petition to get the guy who actually got the most votes in the last National election to be President? :disgust:

 

[Ferocious]

Ironically...most of the Governors right now wanting to raise taxes are REPUBLICANS. (though this is not nearly as rare as some would have you believe).


I think the only Governor pushing for tax CUTS right now is the New Mexico Governor.........a DEMOCRAT.

 

[Alistar7]

"Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid"
Heinrich Heine

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Ironically...most of the Governors right now wanting to raise taxes are REPUBLICANS. (though this is not nearly as rare as some would have you believe).


I think the only Governor pushing for tax CUTS right now is the New Mexico Governor.........a DEMOCRAT.

funny because the rest of the republican politicians are dead set against taxes no matter what. it doesn't matter if one republican the governor wants em if the rest of his batch are dead set against it.

 

[brtspears2]

Its worth a shot.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: brtspears2
Its worth a shot.

It's an obscene misuse of the recall process to give Republicans another chance after they blew the first one by nominating the only guy who could lose to Davis. This is harrasment much the same way the republican traitors in congress harassed Bill Clinton for 8 years, instead of letting him do his job. Look, people heard this BS, and much like with Clinton they still voted for Davis. All they are accusing Davis of was well known during the 2002 election. Nothing new came up in 3 months since then. People still voted for Davis.
When will Republicans learn to respect the will of the voters, and stop manipulating the system and undermining the Governor's ability to govern at the time when the state needs leadership?
I didn't vote for Davis, but I will defend him here, because I am sick of these condescending Republican SOB's who think they know better than CA voters what's best for CA.

 

[BruinEd03]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
The Rebulican's are working to recall Governor Gray Davis. If the initiative is successful, California's will vote in a new governor. They need many signatures to make this fly, so if you'd like to see Davis out and you live in California, sign up for a Recall Petition, located in the site below.

Recall Gray Davis

when the republicans put up a candidate that runs his company so poorly it gets sued, they don't deserve a recall. Grey Davis sucked...he sucked bad...but the Republicans somehow managed to find someone that sucked even worse.

-Ed

 

[0roo0roo]

think about it this way, you need only 900k signitures to start the recall election. the state has 15 million voters. 900k is a drop in the bucket, it would not be a majority asking for a recall, just a minority trying to waste time, cause trouble, obstruct... its a political weapon for the bitter republicans, thats all.

not to mention a recall election would waste even more money that the state doesn't have.


buncha tards really.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: notfred
And who have they (the republicans) come up with as a candidate that can beat him?

Ahnald?

Since when can you recall someone who was fairly elected? has hoax written all over it. If the republicans could send anybody with any redeeming qualities against Gray they would win in a landslide...only problem is trying to find a native Californian republican that is electable.

 

[Corn]

Agreed. The ars in the White House now with his tax givaway has shifted the revenue burden for things such as schools, roads, police, water, environment protection to the states, that up until this jerk with his economic lopsided policy was put in control, with his congressional minions doing his bidding, have put not just California, but just about every state in the Union now having to raise taxes to shore up the leak in revenue that was once helped by federal tax money. This is effecting everything from police to hospital and medical funding, to upgrading schools, roads, hospitals, jails, bridges, waterways, etc.

You're about as clueless as they come. Fed spending has increased, not decreased you sniveling parrot. State coffers are lower because of a decrease in their tax collected revenue, not because of a reduction of funds from the feds.

What the hell are you talking about? When Bush entered the White House, he had a surplus to work with, instead he turned it into the largest deficet in 30 years IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS OF GOVERNING!

No, he had a projected surplus over the course of 10 years. That's twice you're wrong.

And we haven't even started on the economy,which is spireling out of control right now, with inflation already at a 30 year high,and no real recovery in sight.

The only thing spiraling out of control is your mood swings since you quit taking your meds. The economy is somewhat stagnant, but not in recession. Inflation at a 30 year high? Wrong again dufus.

So what have we learned? Triplesnot needs more fibre in his diet--he's so full of sh1t he just might explode.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Corn

Agreed. The ars in the White House now with his tax givaway has shifted the revenue burden for things such as schools, roads, police, water, environment protection to the states, that up until this jerk with his economic lopsided policy was put in control, with his congressional minions doing his bidding, have put not just California, but just about every state in the Union now having to raise taxes to shore up the leak in revenue that was once helped by federal tax money. This is effecting everything from police to hospital and medical funding, to upgrading schools, roads, hospitals, jails, bridges, waterways, etc.

You're about as clueless as they come. Fed spending has increased, not decreased you sniveling parrot. State coffers are lower because of a decrease in their tax collected revenue, not because of a reduction of funds from the feds.

What the hell are you talking about? When Bush entered the White House, he had a surplus to work with, instead he turned it into the largest deficet in 30 years IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS OF GOVERNING!

No, he had a projected surplus over the course of 10 years. That's twice you're wrong.

And we haven't even started on the economy,which is spireling out of control right now, with inflation already at a 30 year high,and no real recovery in sight.

The only thing spiraling out of control is your mood swings since you quit taking your meds. The economy is somewhat stagnant, but not in recession. Inflation at a 30 year high? Wrong again dufus.

So what have we learned? Triplesnot needs more fibre in his diet--he's so full of sh1t he just might explode.

Thank you for doing that I have work I need to get to

Davis won because he ran a successful campain of lies. Every time ASimon got to court he was found to have done nothing wrong. The republicans Left Simon out to dry. Davis has played the blame game to perfection. Who is to blame for everrything wrong in California's Budget? Enron. Whne LA made more on piggybacking power then Enron and it was LEWGAL for enron to do it while it was illegal for LA as a municipole power company. And to fix the problem Davis signed LONG TERM DEALS at record high prices. Davis ordered the shutdown of SOuthern California plants so thoose in Southerrn California could experence "simpithy blackouts" He then ordered that sempra run a plant that the EPA fined because it was a high pulluting plant authorized to run 1 day a month.

You can look at just about everything Davis has done regarding electricy in California and it was the wrong thing to do.