Petition to define Westboro as official hate group.

Geosurface

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I hate Westboro with all my heart. Every single thing about them is as antithetical to my beliefs as is possible. Or nearly so.

But fuck this petition.

Defining people as "hate groups" is a worthless, stupid thought crime big brother bullshit move.

I've seen The Southern Poverty Law Center (which is a HUGE scam group raking in cash and pretending to be poor, other legitimate groups with similar goals hate their guts) categorize groups as "hate groups" which were not legitimately definable in that way by anyone with two brain cells.

It's a bully tactic.

I won't engage in it.
 

Greenman

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It's a pretty nifty method of destroying them. Who's going to care if you harass a hate group? Who's going to care if you deny them their rights? This is a hate group we're talking about, they have to be stopped at any cost.

Another great tool for manipulating public stupidity.
 

nehalem256

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I hate Westboro with all my heart. Every single thing about them is as antithetical to my beliefs as is possible. Or nearly so.

But fuck this petition.

Defining people as "hate groups" is a worthless, stupid thought crime big brother bullshit move.

I've seen The Southern Poverty Law Center (which is a HUGE scam group raking in cash and pretending to be poor, other legitimate groups with similar goals hate their guts) categorize groups as "hate groups" which were not legitimately definable in that way by anyone with two brain cells.

It's a bully tactic.

I won't engage in it.

:thumbsup:

Why is every post of your a work of brilliance?
 

EagleKeeper

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Regretfully, they fall under the religion umbrella and free speech ammendment
 

kotss

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As sick and twisted as they are, this is crap just as Geosurface states and I am against it. This is anti american at its finest. Their message is pure crap but they should not be barred from voicing their message. I do agree with not allowing them within a certain distance, because the emotional stress most people are under when these sick and twisted individuals show up can be a cause for physical retalliation and that is exactly what these buttheads are looking for. I do wish a natural disaster would smack down upon them, they are nothing but a brain washed cult, who use litigation as a weapon.
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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I hate Westboro with all my heart. Every single thing about them is as antithetical to my beliefs as is possible. Or nearly so.

But fuck this petition.

Defining people as "hate groups" is a worthless, stupid thought crime big brother bullshit move.

I've seen The Southern Poverty Law Center (which is a HUGE scam group raking in cash and pretending to be poor, other legitimate groups with similar goals hate their guts) categorize groups as "hate groups" which were not legitimately definable in that way by anyone with two brain cells.

It's a bully tactic.

I won't engage in it.

In this particular case, you're right. Westboro may be composed of a bunch of assholes who better hope God isn't real, because they're not doing much to get on his good side, but their douche-nozzle behavior is almost certainly legal. But in general, I think you're absolutely wrong. There are plenty of legitimate "hate groups" in the US that either implicitly or explicitly encourage violent reaction to narrow-minded dislike of others. THAT is not a protected activity, and calling people out for engaging in it isn't "bullying".
 

LegendKiller

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Mar 5, 2001
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Absolutely agree that they are a despicable group. Absolutely disagree that they should be labeled as a "hate group" which may allow any infringement of their rights.
 

dingster1

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They are going to picket the wrong funeral one of these days and some family member is going to not be concerned about jail time. All christians are not in agreement with them.
 

woolfe9999

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Well, they ARE a hate group. That much is self-evident. However, I fail to see the point of officially defining them as such.
 

MagickMan

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Well, they ARE a hate group. That much is self-evident. However, I fail to see the point of officially defining them as such.

They lose some assembly rights and can be treated as a hostile entity, within a certain capacity.
 

MagickMan

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They are going to picket the wrong funeral one of these days and some family member is going to not be concerned about jail time. All christians are not in agreement with them.

I look for them to push the wrong buttons and get massacred one day, masked rednecks with machine guns just mowing them down like grass, and the police showing up 10 minutes late, surprised and with no leads. *ahem*
 

ichy

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WTF does defining them as an "official" hate group even mean? There's no such thing as a US gov't hate group list. Pure bullshit.
 

ichy

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They lose some assembly rights and can be treated as a hostile entity, within a certain capacity.

No, this is complete crap. There is no "hate group" list that causes you to lose any rights. Please stop it, this is all just painful to read it's so absurd.
 

ichy

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You need to familiarize yourself with the subject. The list isn't published, but they sure have one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group

There is no list that causes you to lose any right to freedom of assembly, and that "hostile entity" nonsense was something you pulled out of your ass. The US protects free speech rights more strongly than probably any other country in the world. As long as you're not directly instigating violence you can spew whatever hate you want and you're still completely protected by the First Amendment. This idiotic petition just shows how worthless internet petitions are.