Peter Strzok Fired? Not yet. Escorted from FBI Friday.

[MomentsofSanity]

about to break. No link yet. I’m in no way surprised. Wray telegraphed this in his speech on the IG report.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

CNN just confirmed he was escorted out of the building Friday. Actually still employed for now.....

 

[dyna]

He is likely going to be given the option to resign with a package(which we will never hear the details) or fired with nothing.

 

[interchange]

Ok if the people request a sacrifice. I'm more interested in the structural interventions the FBI might take to prevent this kind of behavior in the future. The IG report had some suggestions.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ok if the people request a sacrifice. I'm more interested in the structural interventions the FBI might take to prevent this kind of behavior in the future. The IG report had some suggestions.

Texting?

 

[zinfamous]

So the guy got fired because he was determined to stop an actual criminal and foreign collaborator, whom he was investigating, from becoming the president?

I thought that was the kind of thing that we wanted in our Bureau and our Agency? I guess conservatives that get hard-ons for fantasies like Jack Ryan and such are really just fantasy hard-ons. They seem to enjoy it when actual villains grasp the reigns of their actual country. I guess the patriotism was always fake!

Who knew!?

 

[fskimospy]

So the guy got fired because he was determined to stop an actual criminal and foreign collaborator, whom he was investigating, from becoming the president?

I thought that was the kind of thing that we wanted in our Bureau and our Agency? I guess conservatives that get hard-ons for fantasies like Jack Ryan and such are really just fantasy hard-ons. They seem to enjoy it when actual villains grasp the reigns of their actual country. I guess the patriotism was always fake!

Who knew!?

He wasn’t determined to stop him considering I’m not aware of any action he took to, you know, stop him.

He sent some inappropriate texts on his work phone. We all know of wouldn’t matter if it were about a mob boss he was investigating or whatever, it’s because republicans want to take him out for being anti-Trump.

 

[Fenixgoon]

He wasn’t determined to stop him considering I’m not aware of any action he took to, you know, stop him.

He sent some inappropriate texts on his work phone. We all know of wouldn’t matter if it were about a mob boss he was investigating or whatever, it’s because republicans want to take him out for being anti-Trump.

yep. fired because he is a political sacrifice. not because he actually deserves to be fired in any real way.

 

[Jhhnn]

He said bag things about the Precious, the Donald, the Exalted One. He is a blasphemer who must be burned!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...rzok-patriot-not-sick-loser-column/712673002/

It's a shameless attack on a guy who sent some text messages from the wrong phone & an attack on the FBI.

How the fuck did we ever end up with a President who finds it necessary to attack the FBI? How did this become normal?

 

[interchange]

Texting?

With significant personal opinions expressed about cases you are actively involved in that reflect badly on the FBI via a non-secure medium. Possibly also a romantic involvement with a colleague, but I don't know their organizational policies. I certainly would expect it to be frowned upon if people are working on the same case.

 

[dyna]

He said bag things about the Precious, the Donald, the Exalted One. He is a blasphemer who must be burned!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...rzok-patriot-not-sick-loser-column/712673002/

It's a shameless attack on a guy who sent some text messages from the wrong phone & an attack on the FBI.

How the fuck did we ever end up with a President who finds it necessary to attack the FBI? How did this become normal?

Strzok had to have known his tactics were going to potentially end him. It was a gamble he lost. He does appear to have an outstanding record as a patriot but it only takes one stupid mistake to lose your job. Be rational for a moment and realize that the FBI was responsible for this conclusion. It was the scathing remarks from the IG about him that is ultimately going to end his career with the FBI.

 

[fskimospy]

With significant personal opinions expressed about cases you are actively involved in that reflect badly on the FBI via a non-secure medium. Possibly also a romantic involvement with a colleague, but I don't know their organizational policies. I certainly would expect it to be frowned upon if people are working on the same case.

What do you think FBI agents say about the mobsters they investigate? Do you think if texts surfaced of them saying ‘Tony Soprano is an asshole I can’t wait to send to prison’ that they would matter? I suspect you agree they would not so why is Trump special?

If he gets fired it’s not for having an affair with a coworker. If that were the case he would have been fired long ago.

 

[dank69]

Didn't he withhold the Weiner laptop discovery hoping they could keep it under wraps until after the election?

 

[theeedude]

Didn't he withhold the Weiner laptop discovery hoping they could keep it under wraps until after the election?

Like they kept all of Trump's Russia shenanigans under wraps until after the election?

 

[dank69]

Like they kept all of Trump's Russia shenanigans under wraps until after the election?

Yes, similar to that. Just repeating what I heard to see if it's even true.

 

[Jhhnn]

Didn't he withhold the Weiner laptop discovery hoping they could keep it under wraps until after the election?

Read the link in #9.

 

[Jhhnn]

Strzok had to have known his tactics were going to potentially end him. It was a gamble he lost. He does appear to have an outstanding record as a patriot but it only takes one stupid mistake to lose your job. Be rational for a moment and realize that the FBI was responsible for this conclusion. It was the scathing remarks from the IG about him that is ultimately going to end his career with the FBI.

If Strzok is fired it will be as a scapegoat for malfeasance that didn't even happen. There are also issues of equal protection involved. II mean, wtf do you think? That similar comments wouldn't be found in a lot of other FBI text messages?

FBI agents are trained to spot the scumbag, you know? I'm sure Strzok wasn't the only one who noticed the stench of corruption oozing from every pore in Trump's body.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

So the guy got fired because he was determined to stop an actual criminal and foreign collaborator, whom he was investigating, from becoming the president?

I thought that was the kind of thing that we wanted in our Bureau and our Agency? I guess conservatives that get hard-ons for fantasies like Jack Ryan and such are really just fantasy hard-ons. They seem to enjoy it when actual villains grasp the reigns of their actual country. I guess the patriotism was always fake!

Who knew!?

I spent 30 years inside the career service. In those days, your agency may have been targeted for austerity but the appointees didn't strive to make career employees mentally ill, either.

We didn't discuss political opinions in the office. While we may not have given thought to whether government PCs and e-mails were used for trivial communication on the side with fellow office-workers, we didn't incline to write e-mails like Strzok and his female colleague. If we did, though, I don't think anyone considered the possibility that anyone would notice.

On the other hand, it would be possible to misinterpret Strzok's remark. "We will stop it" may have a more general meaning for "We." Another example would be Khrushchev's remark targeted at the USA "We will bury you." Since Marx predicted that Capitalism would destroy itself, one could attach a less threatening meaning to the remark.

But it is also possible to prove that a political bias did no affect the conduct of someone's work. It could be reviewed and vetted by colleagues.

The Trumpies, however, suspect anyone registered as a Democrat or not selected specifically for a job by their Great Leader.

 

[dank69]

Read the link in #9.

Ah thanks.

 

[Greenman]

So the guy got fired because he was determined to stop an actual criminal and foreign collaborator, whom he was investigating, from becoming the president?

I thought that was the kind of thing that we wanted in our Bureau and our Agency? I guess conservatives that get hard-ons for fantasies like Jack Ryan and such are really just fantasy hard-ons. They seem to enjoy it when actual villains grasp the reigns of their actual country. I guess the patriotism was always fake!

Who knew!?

The bummer is that it wasn't a convicted criminal and foreign collaborator. It really sucks to have to go through the whole evidence, prosecution, defense thing. Maybe someday we'll get past that and just be able to ruin people with an accusation. Oh wait...

 

[interchange]

What do you think FBI agents say about the mobsters they investigate? Do you think if texts surfaced of them saying ‘Tony Soprano is an asshole I can’t wait to send to prison’ that they would matter? I suspect you agree they would not so why is Trump special?

If he gets fired it’s not for having an affair with a coworker. If that were the case he would have been fired long ago.

If you didn't catch my meaning, I don't think he should be fired for this. I think the FBI should look at its ways of protecting itself from this kind of thing being in the public eye and looking bad for it. I don't think he should be fired for the relationship either, but I do think it's a conflict that has potential to affect investigations.

As for your mobster analogy, last I checked they weren't public figures with high degree of positive public opinion, and exactly zero of them have been major party candidates for president. The fault is neither in forming nor privately expressing the opinions. The fault is doing so in a way that exposed their communications to public scrutiny.

 

[Jhhnn]

The bummer is that it wasn't a convicted criminal and foreign collaborator. It really sucks to have to go through the whole evidence, prosecution, defense thing. Maybe someday we'll get past that and just be able to ruin people with an accusation. Oh wait...

The bummer is that America elected a liar, a cheat, a thief & a con man to be President. A malevolent narcissist. A non-violent & extremely clever career criminal who could buy his way out of any jam.

He was obviously all of that long before he ran for President. That's right. But his voters somehow got past all that during the witch burning & all. And they still believe. Donald is depending on them to forgive him in the end because he's just a victim of the devious & corrupt Deep State... the Media (the enemy of the people!), Libruhls, Illegals, Bigfoot, you name it.

Strzok is just somebody to burn at the stake to light up the sky so that the Strong Leader can bask in the glow of the fire...

 

[fskimospy]

If you didn't catch my meaning, I don't think he should be fired for this. I think the FBI should look at its ways of protecting itself from this kind of thing being in the public eye and looking bad for it. I don't think he should be fired for the relationship either, but I do think it's a conflict that has potential to affect investigations.

As for your mobster analogy, last I checked they weren't public figures with high degree of positive public opinion, and exactly zero of them have been major party candidates for president. The fault is neither in forming nor privately expressing the opinions. The fault is doing so in a way that exposed their communications to public scrutiny.

The problem is our system was never made to deal with partisanship at this level. Congress isn’t interested in investigating criminal activity by the president, they are interstated in preventing it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Ok if the people request a sacrifice. I'm more interested in the structural interventions the FBI might take to prevent this kind of behavior in the future. The IG report had some suggestions.

Texting?

A combination of expressing zealous admiration towards one person they investigated, and let off before interviewing, VS expressing raw seething hatred for the other subject under investigation. Both Presidential candidates and one of whom they vowed to stop. The former got off on the premise of ignorance of the law, though that has never an acceptable excuse for anyone else. For the latter they ended up using intel paid for by the other candidate, delivered from a foreign agent, and provided by the Kremlin.

The full bonafide facts of how the FBI handled the 2016 election are quite astonishing.

 

[Jhhnn]

A combination of expressing zealous admiration towards one person they investigated, and let off before interviewing, VS expressing raw seething hatred for the other subject under investigation. Both Presidential candidates and one of whom they vowed to stop. The former got off on the premise of ignorance of the law, though that has never an acceptable excuse for anyone else. For the latter they ended up using intel paid for by the other candidate, delivered from a foreign agent, and provided by the Kremlin.

The full bonafide facts of how the FBI handled the 2016 election are quite astonishing.

Wow, man... Where do you get your drugs?