Pete Stark - apologizes

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

I think you get amusement every time you post about more soldiers dying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg

 

[dyna]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

Are you American? Because if you are, its also your Commander in Chief, whether you like it or not.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

I think you get amusement every time you post about more soldiers dying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg

I think it's incredibly clueless to confuse objecting to needless killing with that being amused by the needless killing. Your comments are highly offensive IMO, Alchemize.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

I think you get amusement every time you post about more soldiers dying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg

I think it's incredibly clueless to confuse objecting to needless killing with that being amused by the needless killing. Your comments are highly offensive IMO, Alchemize.

Are they really?

I think you also find amusement in US soldiers having their heads blown off.

edited for specificity

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: dyna

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

Are you American?

He is. Are you?

It appears you are in favor of needless war (unamerican), against citizens having free speech about that (unamerican), against freedom of religion (unamerican)...

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

I think you get amusement every time you post about more soldiers dying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSPXpc5N6Kg

I think it's incredibly clueless to confuse objecting to needless killing with that being amused by the needless killing. Your comments are highly offensive IMO, Alchemize.

Are they really?

I think you also find amusement in the deaths of US soldiers.

I think you lie.

 

[Craig234]

mispost

 

[Craig234]

mispost.

 

[alchemize]

I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

 

[dyna]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: dyna

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
Stark is a national disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

No, the national disgraces are (as of 10/18/07 6:18 pm EDT) the 3,830 American lives and the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money squandered in your TRAITOR IN CHIEF's war of LIES. He's right. The money squandered in Iraq could easily cover SCHIP, pursuing the right battle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, improving real security at home, updating public infrastructure and so much more.

Another national disgrace is lying neocon sycophants calling a real patriot like Stark a national disgrace because he's not afraid to speak the truth. :roll:

Originally posted by: Martin
He's an atheist, what do you expect?

More common sense than I'd expect from any dogmatic nutcase from any religion.

Are you American?

He is. Are you?

It appears you are in favor of needless war (unamerican), against citizens having free speech about that (unamerican), against freedom of religion (unamerican)...

I am.

If he is American, he needs to realize that Bush is also his Commander in Chief.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: dyna

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: dyna
Are you American?

He is. Are you?

It appears you are in favor of needless war (unamerican), against citizens having free speech about that (unamerican), against freedom of religion (unamerican)...

I am.

If he is American, he needs to realize that Bush is also his Commander and Chief.

If you are American, you need to realize that in America, the people are sovereign; the president's power is derived from that given him by the people; and that the people have the right to free speech to discuss the policies they want and to criticize the leadership as they see fit.

You are espousing the views of a lamb who prefers an authoritarian regime, where you only need worship the leader and help him undermine any opposition from the people.

He's not criticizing Bush for no reason - you can't argue against his criticisms, apparently, you only attack his even making any criticisms against the Dear Leader.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: dyna
Are you American? Because if you are, its also your Commander in Chief, whether you like it or not.

You bet I'm an American, and NO, he's NOT my Commander In Chief. I wouldn't follow that lying TRAITOR and MURDER anywhere. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

I KNOW he lies.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

You missed a few

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

Oh, your extraordinarily subtle point that demonizing your opponents by saying they find the loss of life amusing is not nice isn't lost on anyone, I'd bet.

Then again, I don't know any of the posters here who have uproariously laughed while making fun of a woman on death row for her plea for life, whose warrant you are signing.

link

If they did, you might have a point about their finding amusement involving the loss of life.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

You missed a few

A few points or a few who find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off?

I'm also waiting for senseamp to question Craig234's fake outrage

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

Oh, your extraordinarily subtle point that demonizing your opponents by saying they find the loss of life amusing is not nice isn't lost on anyone, I'd bet.

Then again, I don't know any of the posters here who have uproariously laughed while making fun of a woman on death row for her plea for life, whose warrant you are signing.

link

If they did, you might have a point about their finding amusement involving the loss of life.

So what you are saying is our soldiers are no better than criminals that should be on death row.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

Oh, your extraordinarily subtle point that demonizing your opponents by saying they find the loss of life amusing is not nice isn't lost on anyone, I'd bet.

Then again, I don't know any of the posters here who have uproariously laughed while making fun of a woman on death row for her plea for life, whose warrant you are signing.

link

If they did, you might have a point about their finding amusement involving the loss of life.

So what you are saying is our soldiers are no better than criminals that should be on death row.

To some here they're not.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

You missed a few

A few points or a few who find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off?

I'm also waiting for senseamp to question Craig234's fake outrage

It's not fake. But you are apparently too childish to understand the difference.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: dyna
Are you American? Because if you are, its also your Commander in Chief, whether you like it or not.

You bet I'm an American, and NO, he's NOT my Commander In Chief. I wouldn't follow that lying TRAITOR and MURDER anywhere. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

I KNOW he lies.

Exactly. No man deserves unconditional respect or obedience, especially murderous conniving pigs like him and his gang.

 

[alchemize]

Ok I'm done. What I *DO* find great amusement that there's not a single leftie that has any problem with a comment like this, and many who openly support it. Kinda reminds me of the Sandy Berger thread

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: alchemize
I also think dmcowen674, randym431, dualsmp, senseamp, manowar821, sandorski, umbrella39, Red Dawn, Lemon law, techs, and RightIsWrong find amusement in the heads of US soldiers being blown off.

I think you lie.

Maybe, but I think I'm making a point. I think most will miss it...

Oh, your extraordinarily subtle point that demonizing your opponents by saying they find the loss of life amusing is not nice isn't lost on anyone, I'd bet.

Then again, I don't know any of the posters here who have uproariously laughed while making fun of a woman on death row for her plea for life, whose warrant you are signing.

link

If they did, you might have a point about their finding amusement involving the loss of life.

So what you are saying is our soldiers are no better than criminals that should be on death row.

To some here they're not.

To Alchemize: Your reading comprehension is so bad that there's no point in answering your nonsensical misreading.

To Sinsear: I'm to the left of many on this - I do think that there is an element to many in the military being unwitting murderers, by choosing to turn over the decision on who they kill to the corrupt Bush regime. But I distinguish them greatly from 'common criminals'; I think they generally fail to appreciate the moral wrong of their actions, our culture gives them a lot of messages that the killing is ok. It's tragic for both them and those Bush unnecessarily has them kill.

You wouldn't find me, or Pete Stark, or Red Dawn, or others turning over that decision to Bush - and you would find us encouraging others not to either.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Yes, those criticisms are still linked to the person's statements, not the person generally - if someone posts something I see as immoral, you can't discuss that without saying you think it's immoral.

Note in your examples - you don't see any of the general 'insults' that are basically "jerk"; they are all specifically about the content not the person. The comments are vapid. The comments are drivel. The comments are wrong or a lie. The closest I come is the immoral comment; it's hard to say the person's statements are immoral without it being about the person who said them.

As for 'falsely accusatory', you fail to show any of that in my comments, making your remark, well, falsely accusatory.

So, my point stands, and you are not in much position, as someone who admits to the general personal attacks and insults that I don't, to throw stones.

I'm not trying to pretend I'm in any position of moral authority. You are. And you're being pedantic again. If people want they can "ass" to the end of that. You're trying to excuse your own behavior while faulting others for doing the same thing, all while trying to claim a high ground.

btw, here's your latest:

"It's not fake. But you are apparently too childish to understand the difference."

Stop with the pretense and dismount your horse.