Regardless of what you think of PETA's politics, there's no way anyone can take that little flash animation seriously.
Zenmervolt
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It's easier for those of us in the Midwest to find local farm produce though. Heck, even the chain supermarkets back home sell meat and veggies grown by local farms.
ZV
Big Jelly, you cannot hold it against PETA for what you say they are doing "putting animals before humans".
That's NOT what they are doing. With that logic, hell, every single human-being that buys dog food for their pet is "putting animals before humans". Any of your family have a pet? I hope you bitched them out today before you posted, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Human poverty is beyond the ability to control with current the state of the world.
Animal treatment is something that can be altered and improved extremely quickly and efficiently. We control the lives of these animals. I, as a human, do not want to be associated with weak slacking rejects who simply put humans up on the highest pedestal of the food chain and not give a damn about anything else.
If conditions of slaughter houses (like seen in the Meet Your Meat video) exist because the demand of meet is extraordinarily high.. who do you think the blame falls on?
Of course it falls on the meat-industry, all the way down the chain to the very factory workers who ultimately make the choice to work there. But it also falls on the people demanding the meat. You. The public. The meat-eaters. If nobody ate meat, their wouldn't be a need for slaughter houses. Since that's not going to happen, then stop demanding meat for say a year, and maybe things could be restructured, re-organized, and the rules could be re-written.
Would that happen? No. Why? Because the public couldn't give half a sh|t about life. All you people want to do is sit around and watch television, have sex, multiply, and try and out-do everyone by having a bigger car, a better job, or more money.
You can't think 5 minutes ahead, much less FAR into the future and think about the state of our society and the state of the world. What choices can we make now to ensure a better future once we are gone?
Did all the people back during the slavery time period ever once stop to consider what they are doing? What they could be doing? What effects their actions could have the future? Any other possible alternatives? Did they even take half a second to say, "Why are we doing this?"
I'd like to ask you that.
Why do you eat meat?
I haven't researched it, so I'd honestly like to hear some intellectual answers beyond "it tastes good" or "because I can" or "why not".
People are born into a system and for someone reason, some people are unable to question the system they live by. Whether they don't want to, or whether they have yet to acheive the level of awareness that allows such questioning.
People over in IRAQ attacking our troops. They are in no position to question our actions because they are not in full awareness of the state of the world nor the state of life. They attack our troops because they were born into a system and because of the horrible leadership in that region, they have been unable to achieve enough awareness to question their own actions and beliefs.
I'm straying away from the topic here.
Anyways.
I went off beef some 6 years ago, and went off all meat over a year ago.
I saw very little reason to continue eating meat.
Besides the PETA issues, meat is expensive, messy, requires special cooking to eliminate bacterias, forms carcinagenic (cancer causing) compounds when cooked, jacks up your intestinal track due to no fiberous content, and the list goes on.
There is no issue about nutrients incase anyone brings it up. You can obtain all the nutrients the body needs through plant sources and fortified foods.
Game over.
That's NOT what they are doing. With that logic, hell, every single human-being that buys dog food for their pet is "putting animals before humans". Any of your family have a pet? I hope you bitched them out today before you posted, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Human poverty is beyond the ability to control with current the state of the world.
Animal treatment is something that can be altered and improved extremely quickly and efficiently. We control the lives of these animals. I, as a human, do not want to be associated with weak slacking rejects who simply put humans up on the highest pedestal of the food chain and not give a damn about anything else.
If conditions of slaughter houses (like seen in the Meet Your Meat video) exist because the demand of meet is extraordinarily high.. who do you think the blame falls on?
Of course it falls on the meat-industry, all the way down the chain to the very factory workers who ultimately make the choice to work there. But it also falls on the people demanding the meat. You. The public. The meat-eaters. If nobody ate meat, their wouldn't be a need for slaughter houses. Since that's not going to happen, then stop demanding meat for say a year, and maybe things could be restructured, re-organized, and the rules could be re-written.
Would that happen? No. Why? Because the public couldn't give half a sh|t about life. All you people want to do is sit around and watch television, have sex, multiply, and try and out-do everyone by having a bigger car, a better job, or more money.
You can't think 5 minutes ahead, much less FAR into the future and think about the state of our society and the state of the world. What choices can we make now to ensure a better future once we are gone?
Did all the people back during the slavery time period ever once stop to consider what they are doing? What they could be doing? What effects their actions could have the future? Any other possible alternatives? Did they even take half a second to say, "Why are we doing this?"
I'd like to ask you that.
Why do you eat meat?
I haven't researched it, so I'd honestly like to hear some intellectual answers beyond "it tastes good" or "because I can" or "why not".
People are born into a system and for someone reason, some people are unable to question the system they live by. Whether they don't want to, or whether they have yet to acheive the level of awareness that allows such questioning.
People over in IRAQ attacking our troops. They are in no position to question our actions because they are not in full awareness of the state of the world nor the state of life. They attack our troops because they were born into a system and because of the horrible leadership in that region, they have been unable to achieve enough awareness to question their own actions and beliefs.
I'm straying away from the topic here.
Anyways.
I went off beef some 6 years ago, and went off all meat over a year ago.
I saw very little reason to continue eating meat.
Besides the PETA issues, meat is expensive, messy, requires special cooking to eliminate bacterias, forms carcinagenic (cancer causing) compounds when cooked, jacks up your intestinal track due to no fiberous content, and the list goes on.
There is no issue about nutrients incase anyone brings it up. You can obtain all the nutrients the body needs through plant sources and fortified foods.
Game over.
I live in TX, and I don't know of any way to buy non factory beef. Chicken I can buy for $6 a lb. I bought some today. Expensive as hell.
Actually, for once PETA is not telling people to become vegitarians, but to only eat products that come from real Farms. I don't mind that message.
Yeah, they do idiotic things. At an AKC dog show my mom went to (this was in the 80s), a few of them ran around opening as many kennels as they could to "free the poor animals." Of course, a few of the males got into really bad fights and many more were lost or run over by cars.
PETA sucks.
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