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Capt Caveman

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The problem with adopting pets nowadays is that it's about as tedious and intrusive as adopting a child. It's much easier for someone to slap down $100-$1000 bucks, no questions asked at a breeder than to have to go through an intrusive life history, background check, and home review by an adoption agency. This doesn't include that some adoption agencies will do check-ups at your house to make sure you are raising the animal the way they see fit.

B/c owning a dog is a responsibility, they don't want a dog going to a home where the owners can't even take care of themselves, treat the dog poorly or have the poor dog end up in a shelter again.
 

Capt Caveman

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You can adopt AWESOME dogs. I can understand why people wouldn't want to adopt a dog if they want a specific breed etc, but if you want a companion there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't look towards a shelter. My best friend has adopted two amazing dogs in the last two years. They really are incredible animals.

If you check the link in my sig, I promise you that you can find any breed out there via rescue/shelter. There are many breed specific rescue organizations out there.
 

ZzZGuy

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Parents got a dog from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

My friends parents had gotten a cat from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

Problem is you're likely getting damaged goods with the exception of special cases. All feral animals imho should be put down immediately, while those animals that where someones pet more recently should be the only ones considered for adoption. In the case of animal abuse the animal should be put down immediately (see first two sentences).

What really causes this whole mess is idiots who drop off their pets near a house or in the woods. The breed and/or go feral creating a even bigger problem. Wither misguided compassion or indifference, these people should face hefty fines if ever caught.

And it's my right to say "I don't want a stray mutt, I want X purebred/cross".
 

Slick5150

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Parents got a dog from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

My friends parents had gotten a cat from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

Problem is you're likely getting damaged goods with the exception of special cases. All feral animals imho should be put down immediately, while those animals that where someones pet more recently should be the only ones considered for adoption. In the case of animal abuse the animal should be put down immediately (see first two sentences).

What really causes this whole mess is idiots who drop off their pets near a house or in the woods. The breed and/or go feral creating a even bigger problem. Wither misguided compassion or indifference, these people should face hefty fines if ever caught.

And it's my right to say "I don't want a stray mutt, I want X purebred/cross".

BS - Most shelter animals are so grateful to have a home that they're the most caring animals you can find. A friend of mine got a dog from a breeder because they wanted a "purebred" and that is the most idiotic dog I've ever seen. They then got a 2nd dog from a shelter and it is far better behaved. They've tried giving away the purebred but everyone knows how crazy that dog is so nobody wants him.

I have 2 cats, 1 I found in a friend's garage as a kitten, the other came from the Humane Society shelter, and both have been great.

So no, I don't believe in the "must get specific animal so they're better behaved" argument. I think it's mostly people just stroking their own ego that THEIR dog is a purebred while yours is some mutt. Super.
 

Capt Caveman

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Parents got a dog from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

My friends parents had gotten a cat from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

Problem is you're likely getting damaged goods with the exception of special cases. All feral animals imho should be put down immediately, while those animals that where someones pet more recently should be the only ones considered for adoption. In the case of animal abuse the animal should be put down immediately (see first two sentences).

What really causes this whole mess is idiots who drop off their pets near a house or in the woods. The breed and/or go feral creating a even bigger problem. Wither misguided compassion or indifference, these people should face hefty fines if ever caught.

And it's my right to say "I don't want a stray mutt, I want X purebred/cross".

My brother rescued a feral kitten that had been living around his office building. Great and well-behaved kitten.
 

ZzZGuy

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BS - Most shelter animals are so grateful to have a home that they're the most caring animals you can find. A friend of mine got a dog from a breeder because they wanted a "purebred" and that is the most idiotic dog I've ever seen. They then got a 2nd dog from a shelter and it is far better behaved. They've tried giving away the purebred but everyone knows how crazy that dog is so nobody wants him.

I have 2 cats, 1 I found in a friend's garage as a kitten, the other came from the Humane Society shelter, and both have been great.

So no, I don't believe in the "must get specific animal so they're better behaved" argument. I think it's mostly people just stroking their own ego that THEIR dog is a purebred while yours is some mutt. Super.

I don't trust in what I would get from a shelter with few exceptions. You can show me all the happy endings you want, but I can show you bad ones to.

And if you get a pubby/kitten from a breeder at the proper age and it turns out bad it's your own damn fault, be it training or lack of research into defects/traits of X breed.
 

ZzZGuy

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My brother rescued a feral kitten that had been living around his office building. Great and well-behaved kitten.

My parents actually have taken in a stray cat and it's one of the best they've ever had, but it was around their house and not from a animal shelter. The difference being that over 3 months (with all the houses around they assumed someone else owned it for a while) of it hanging around and odd feedings they got a feel for the animal. First thing it did when it was let in the house was use the cat litter, it was obviously someone else's cat that got lost or dumped. -edit- it was even cut -edit-

Before that one of their favorite cats was a "barn cat", a random mix that lived by a barn. The mother was owned and cared for by the owners but was as far from a house cat as one can get before it being feral. The kitten my parents got lived a lot like the one mentioned above before we got it (then it turned lazy).

Both cases, no animal shelter was involved and it worked very nicely.
 

bfdd

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If you check the link in my sig, I promise you that you can find any breed out there via rescue/shelter. There are many breed specific rescue organizations out there.

I know you can, but like I said I can understand why someone wouldn't want to adopt if they wanted to buy a specific breed. If you have the time and patience it is much better to get a dog as a puppy to train than an adult. I totally agree with adopting dogs and in most cases people should.
 

GroundedSailor

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Problem is, if you adopt a several-year-old dog from a shelter, you're probably not going to get the dog you want and it's probably not going to be very enjoyable.

IMO, my choice and happiness as a consumer > someone's opinion that abandoned dogs are more important than bred dogs.

Wrong!

We have a 5-6 year old rescued dog which we got 2 years ago and he is the most gentle dog I have come across. Very obedient, does not know the meaning of 'stranger' - all humans and dogs are long lost friends. Has no separation anxieties when left alone. An absolute pleasure to have him around.

Breed: Siberian Husky.
 

Darwin333

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Well, it appears the point of their protest was completely missed on you (or you chose to ignore it). I'm not a big supporter of PETA's methods, but their point isn't specifically about euthanize, it's that you should be adopting pets from shelters so that they don't HAVE to be euthanized rather than supporting people breeding more of them (and often in horrible conditions).

Dogs should be the last animal that anyone truly concerned with the killing of animals focus on.

We treat dogs very well in this country. Other animals, not so much.
 

DrPizza

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The problem with adopting pets nowadays is that it's about as tedious and intrusive as adopting a child. It's much easier for someone to slap down $100-$1000 bucks, no questions asked at a breeder than to have to go through an intrusive life history, background check, and home review by an adoption agency. This doesn't include that some adoption agencies will do check-ups at your house to make sure you are raising the animal the way they see fit.
I'm amazed at the costs some shelters want to pass on for adoption. As far as breeders - I know several who are very picky about who gets to adopt dogs from them. (I don't know any cat breeders.) Ditto goat breeders - we've personally turned down a few people who wanted to buy goats from us.

Partially, after the Dalmatian movie and now the Chihuahua movie, people think they're cute and want these dogs. To meet demand, puppy millers go into action and when these people realize that their cute little puppy requires a lot of work and responsibility, shelters/rescues are flooded with these dogs.
Damn it, if only they'd make a sequel movie "Chihuahua 2: Yip Yip Yip" then the shelters would be emptied of all the chihuahuas.

I don't trust in what I would get from a shelter with few exceptions. You can show me all the happy endings you want, but I can show you bad ones to.

And if you get a pubby/kitten from a breeder at the proper age and it turns out bad it's your own damn fault, be it training or lack of research into defects/traits of X breed.

I don't think the rate of problems with animals from shelters is any different than the rate of problems from animals from breeders.

I just can't wait for the virus that kills all dogs and cats so they'll start breeding Apes for pets.

"Get your stinkin' paws off me, you damned dirty ape!"

Bah. Or... "BaaaaaaaaH" - Some breeds of goats make great pets. :)
 

sportage

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I DON'T CARE what PETA does or feels they have to do.
YOU have to remember, PETA is about the ONLY organization
the pets and animals have on their side. About the only one that
takes an offensive attitude.
I support them 100%.

If there were 5, 4 or even 2 other national organizations that so strongly support
animal rights, then "maybe" we could pick PETA apart, but sadly PETA is about it.

When you consider the animal injustice they have uncovered (you can find many on youtube, "if" you have the stomach to watch), they are worth supporting.
Injustice against animals PETA uncovered, that we would have never known about otherwise.
I do support them 100%.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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I DON'T CARE what PETA does or feels they have to do.
YOU have to remember, PETA is about the ONLY organization
the pets and animals have on their side. About the only one that
takes an offensive attitude.
I support them 100%.

If there were 5, 4 or even 2 other national organizations that so strongly support
animal rights, then "maybe" we could pick PETA apart, but sadly PETA is about it.

When you consider the animal injustice they have uncovered (you can find many on youtube, "if" you have the stomach to watch), they are worth supporting.
Injustice against animals PETA uncovered, that we would have never known about otherwise.
I do support them 100%.

Maybe so, but that doesnt excuse their assinine attacks on Westminster. Inexcusable.
 

DukeN

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You can adopt AWESOME dogs. I can understand why people wouldn't want to adopt a dog if they want a specific breed etc, but if you want a companion there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't look towards a shelter. My best friend has adopted two amazing dogs in the last two years. They really are incredible animals.

+1

I adopted an amazing dog six months ago and could not be happier. The truly sad thing is the amount of pets languishing in humane societies (or similar organisations) because a lot of people give it the 5 second dismissal after only considering the negatives.
 

Robor

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Parents got a dog from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

My friends parents had gotten a cat from the SPCA (animal shelter), never again.

Problem is you're likely getting damaged goods with the exception of special cases. All feral animals imho should be put down immediately, while those animals that where someones pet more recently should be the only ones considered for adoption. In the case of animal abuse the animal should be put down immediately (see first two sentences).

What really causes this whole mess is idiots who drop off their pets near a house or in the woods. The breed and/or go feral creating a even bigger problem. Wither misguided compassion or indifference, these people should face hefty fines if ever caught.

And it's my right to say "I don't want a stray mutt, I want X purebred/cross".

It's your right to say "I'm an idiot" too. Oh wait, you just did.

Edit: I say this because I've adopted several kittens from several different shelters and all of them have been great pets. I know plenty of others who have done the same for their cats and dogs. To put down shelters is just crazy.
 
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