PETA Assailed Over 'Turkey Terrorist' Ad

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: PipBoy

Originally posted by: gopunk
you're only eating meat for one of two reasons:

a.) you can't grasp why it might be morally wrong to eat meat
b.) you can grasp it, but your selfish desire for meat overcomes your sense of morality

How about (c), you can see how some might feel that way, but personally disagree, and wish you would be left the hell alone.

that's b with a dash of rationalization 🙂

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: fisher
because he's busy doing stuff? besides, people die every day. so if you believe that god's killing us off, well, perhaps he is.

you must have a very sad view of god.

but like i said, some people grasp it, some people don't. it's okay if you don't.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: PipBoy

Originally posted by: gopunk
you're only eating meat for one of two reasons:

a.) you can't grasp why it might be morally wrong to eat meat
b.) you can grasp it, but your selfish desire for meat overcomes your sense of morality

How about (c), you can see how some might feel that way, but personally disagree, and wish you would be left the hell alone.

that's b with a dash of rationalization 🙂

no, that's reality. to put it better would be like....

d) you realize that you're not going to be guilted into not eating meat by some lunatic fringe vegheads, who by some twisted sense of whatever believe it's immoral to eat animals. you like eating meat, it's good, it keeps you alive, and you wish to be left alone.

i'm starting to wonder when the david koresh-like leader is going to appear and lead his people to their meat free compound in the desert.

 

[gopunk]

no, that's reality. to put it better would be like....

d) you realize that you're not going to be guilted into not eating meat by some lunatic fringe vegheads, who by some twisted sense of whatever believe it's immoral to eat animals. you like eating meat, it's good, it keeps you alive, and you wish to be left alone.

i'm starting to wonder when the david koresh-like leader is going to appear and lead his people to their meat free compound in the desert.

that's still b. whether you wish to be left alone or not, or your reasons for eating meat have nothing to with this. you either realize that killing animals for personal gain is wrong, or you don't. it's really simple. and i'm not trying to guilt anybody... i told you all already, i eat meat... so i'm selfish, i admit it.

 

[The Dancing Peacock]

it might have been funny. People do take this stuff too seriously.

I do hate PETA though, except for the naked girls that would rather go naked than wear fur. I'm a fan of those ads 🙂

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: gopunk
you either realize that killing animals for personal gain is wrong, or you don't. it's really simple.

Wrong. Who died and made you the fvcking morality police?

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: gopunk

no, that's reality. to put it better would be like....

d) you realize that you're not going to be guilted into not eating meat by some lunatic fringe vegheads, who by some twisted sense of whatever believe it's immoral to eat animals. you like eating meat, it's good, it keeps you alive, and you wish to be left alone.

i'm starting to wonder when the david koresh-like leader is going to appear and lead his people to their meat free compound in the desert.

that's still b. whether you wish to be left alone or not, or your reasons for eating meat have nothing to with this. you either realize that killing animals for personal gain is wrong, or you don't. it's really simple. and i'm not trying to guilt anybody... i told you all already, i eat meat... so i'm selfish, i admit it.

UNLESS IT'S NOT WRONG. which is the part YOU don't seem to grasp. i might decide one day that putting rubber tires on your car instead of wood ones is immoral, save the rubber! that doesn't make me right, it makes me a raving lunatic.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: PipBoy

Originally posted by: gopunk
you either realize that killing animals for personal gain is wrong, or you don't. it's really simple.

Wrong. Who died and made you the fvcking morality police?

nobody, you are free to disagree... you'd be wrong of course 😀

i don't see why this is so hard for people to see, really. would you want to be killed and eaten? i don't think so. so how can doing it to another creature be okay? 😕

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: gopunk

no, that's reality. to put it better would be like....

d) you realize that you're not going to be guilted into not eating meat by some lunatic fringe vegheads, who by some twisted sense of whatever believe it's immoral to eat animals. you like eating meat, it's good, it keeps you alive, and you wish to be left alone.

i'm starting to wonder when the david koresh-like leader is going to appear and lead his people to their meat free compound in the desert.

that's still b. whether you wish to be left alone or not, or your reasons for eating meat have nothing to with this. you either realize that killing animals for personal gain is wrong, or you don't. it's really simple. and i'm not trying to guilt anybody... i told you all already, i eat meat... so i'm selfish, i admit it.

UNLESS IT'S NOT WRONG. which is the part YOU don't seem to grasp. i might decide one day that putting rubber tires on your car instead of wood ones is immoral, save the rubber! that doesn't make me right, it makes me a raving lunatic.

ah, but it is 🙂

why don't i just kill your mom and eat her? it'd be wrong, wouldn't it...

 

[BoberFett]

People like vegetarians/gopunk think they're better than everyone else. They're no different than Christian/Muslim/Jewish zealots who wish to force their religion on everyone else. I know people that don't eat meat simply because they don't like it but for a lot of vegetarians, it is a religion.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: gopunk

no, that's reality. to put it better would be like....

d) you realize that you're not going to be guilted into not eating meat by some lunatic fringe vegheads, who by some twisted sense of whatever believe it's immoral to eat animals. you like eating meat, it's good, it keeps you alive, and you wish to be left alone.

i'm starting to wonder when the david koresh-like leader is going to appear and lead his people to their meat free compound in the desert.

that's still b. whether you wish to be left alone or not, or your reasons for eating meat have nothing to with this. you either realize that killing animals for personal gain is wrong, or you don't. it's really simple. and i'm not trying to guilt anybody... i told you all already, i eat meat... so i'm selfish, i admit it.

UNLESS IT'S NOT WRONG. which is the part YOU don't seem to grasp. i might decide one day that putting rubber tires on your car instead of wood ones is immoral, save the rubber! that doesn't make me right, it makes me a raving lunatic.

ah, but it is 🙂

why don't i just kill your mom and eat her? it'd be wrong, wouldn't it...

because my mom wasn't raised to be eaten by people at wendys perhaps.... but that makes too much sense right?

uh yeah.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
People like vegetarians/gopunk think they're better than everyone else. They're no different than Christian/Muslim/Jewish zealots who wish to force their religion on everyone else. I know people that don't eat meat simply because they don't like it but for a lot of vegetarians, it is a religion.

i think cult is a better word, but that's just me. if you don't wanna eat meat, don't. just stfu and enjoy your veggie burger. but don't you dare try to tell me i'm morally or otherwise wrong for doing something that is natural. when i come to your house and throw YOU on the grill and try to eat YOU then you can raise all the hell you want. until then, SHUT UP. especially if you are a hypocrit and eating meat anyway, and then preaching how wrong it is.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
People like vegetarians/gopunk think they're better than everyone else. They're no different than Christian/Muslim/Jewish zealots who wish to force their religion on everyone else. I know people that don't eat meat simply because they don't like it but for a lot of vegetarians, it is a religion.

except i'm not trying to get anybody to stop eating meat... or trying to get people to do anything for that matter.

 

[gopunk]

because my mom wasn't raised to be eaten by people at wendys perhaps.... but that makes too much sense right?

uh yeah.

so if my wife and i decided to have a child for the purpose of eating it, would it be okay for us to bbq it on it's 2nd birthday?

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: gopunk

because my mom wasn't raised to be eaten by people at wendys perhaps.... but that makes too much sense right?

uh yeah.

so if my wife and i decided to have a child for the purpose of eating it, would it be okay for us to bbq it on it's 2nd birthday?

eh. you've left the realm of rational thought. PEOPLE ARE NOT ANIMALS. ANIMALS ARE NOT PEOPLE. animals do not have rights. they do not get to vote. they can't drive cars. they don't have the right to free speech. somewhere along the way you obviously got confused about this. probably when you began naming your gerbils and talking to them as if they were humans instead of pets.

of course, if you want to raise a child to eat it. by all means, go ahead, who am i to stop you. 🙂

 

[gopunk]

i think cult is a better word, but that's just me. if you don't wanna eat meat, don't. just stfu and enjoy your veggie burger. but don't you dare try to tell me i'm morally or otherwise wrong for doing something that is natural.

you are morally wrong🙂 it is natural to be have sex with many different women, but if you're married, many would consider that immoral too.

when i come to your house and throw YOU on the grill and try to eat YOU then you can raise all the hell you want. until then, SHUT UP.

you could make the same argument for just about any crime... i mean everybody should shut up unless the crime was committed directly against them, right?

especially if you are a hypocrit and eating meat anyway, and then preaching how wrong it is.

how am i being a hypocrite? i told you i am wrong.

 

[gopunk]

PEOPLE ARE NOT ANIMALS.

i'll let that speak for itself

they do not get to vote. they can't drive cars. they don't have the right to free speech.

that doesn't mean a thing... convicted felons don't get to vote, but that doesn't mean we can just eat them.

okay i'm tired of yanking your chain. you're right, i'm wrong, happy? okay.

 

[erikistired]

you are morally wrong it is natural to be have sex with many different women, but if you're married, many would consider that immoral too.

yes but at least those people can say, we believe in the bible, it says don't do it because it's wrong. not, we decided this yesterday, so now you are wrong.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: fisher

you are morally wrong it is natural to be have sex with many different women, but if you're married, many would consider that immoral too.

yes but at least those people can say, we believe in the bible, it says don't do it because it's wrong. not, we decided this yesterday, so now you are wrong.

okay i'll stop after this one 😀

the time at which people realize things has nothing to do with the validity of the assertion. i mean, it could have just taken a while for people to progress, morally, to the point where they could realize such things. i mean, there was a time when slavery was not viewed as a bad thing... not just by white americans either, i mean in most parts of the world.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BoberFett
People like vegetarians/gopunk think they're better than everyone else. They're no different than Christian/Muslim/Jewish zealots who wish to force their religion on everyone else. I know people that don't eat meat simply because they don't like it but for a lot of vegetarians, it is a religion.

except i'm not trying to get anybody to stop eating meat... or trying to get people to do anything for that matter.

But PETA is, gopunk, which is exactly the point here.
If you think eating meat is wrong, more power to you, don't eat it.
But PETA not only thinks that eating meat is wrong, but that everyone should be forced, against their will, to not eat meat. That, IMO, is a wrong far worse than eating meat.
And humans are predators by nature. You can see it in our hands and our stereoscopic vision. Our ability to eat grains and vegetables is merely a by-product of our superior adaptability. If you believe in evolution, then you have to accept the fact that we have millions of years of eating meat behind us.
Veganism is quite possibly the most amazing form of decadent luxury I have ever seen.

 

[erikistired]

as of today i believe that if you don't offer up your 18 yr old daughters to me, you're morally wrong. please follow me, if not i'll glare at you at the mall until you do as i wish. it took me awhile to come to this conclusion, but if you don't drop into line with my way of thinking i'll start making ads on tv and doing stupid things like hanging banners over major highways that cause wrecks and endanger people.

thanks. and that's all i have to say.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BoberFett
People like vegetarians/gopunk think they're better than everyone else. They're no different than Christian/Muslim/Jewish zealots who wish to force their religion on everyone else. I know people that don't eat meat simply because they don't like it but for a lot of vegetarians, it is a religion.

except i'm not trying to get anybody to stop eating meat... or trying to get people to do anything for that matter.

But PETA is, gopunk, which is exactly the point here.

that may be, but i was responding to the inclusion of my name in boberfett's post.

If you think eating meat is wrong, more power to you, don't eat it.
But PETA not only thinks that eating meat is wrong, but that everyone should be forced, against their will, to not eat meat. That, IMO, is a wrong far worse than eating meat.
And humans are predators by nature. You can see it in our hands and our stereoscopic vision. Our ability to eat grains and vegetables is merely a by-product of our superior adaptability. If you believe in evolution, then you have to accept the fact that we have millions of years of eating meat behind us.
Veganism is quite possibly the most amazing form of decadent luxury I have ever seen.

well, it's a luxury like giving to the needy is a luxury. it's a moral luxury. yea i know we are omnivores by nature, but there are many cases were we go against our natural instincts. it is our nature to use our intellect and question our instincts where other animals would just follow it blindly.

 

[BoberFett]

Morals are all subjective. Many Muslims believe it's immoral to not kill infidels.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Morals are all subjective. Many Muslims believe it's immoral to not kill infidels.

you're right...

but i do believe society's view of morality almost always goes towards being more humane. there are exceptions, like the middle ages or something, but overall, i think we make progress. i mean, it used to be that there was nothing wrong with slavery, or watching people get tortured/executed, etc.

 

[BatmanNate]

Every honest to goodness vegetarian that I've known has had a sickly, unhealthy look about them. Whether or not you think it is moral or not to consume animals, the fact remains that by not doing so and balancing your diet, you will not be as healthy of a person. That in and of itself indicates to me that whatever morality issue that is being pressed is in conflict with good health, and therefore should fall under suspicion.