Pervert videotapes a girl's butt in Time Square

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BUTCH1

Lifer
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By your logic, it's ok for a girl to be raped if she wore shitty clothes. If it's unwanted, its unwanted. Rationalizing that the girl was asking for it is stupid.

Besides, it was a photo shoot. She dressed for the camera, not the public.

No, that's not my "logic" at all and your statement that I approve rape I find insulting, I have never myself raised my hand to a woman and find those who do cowards. Now, my point is if your going to act like she did on a crowded NYC street you can't really be surprised by what happened. If I think it's a good idea to adorn a pair of daisy dukes on my 210lb ass should I be shocked when I'm laughed at??. This girl had on very revealing shorts and thrusts her (fine) ass over a chair and remains stationary for several minutes in the middle of a street, should she be surprised when some unsavory dude tapes her??..
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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Let's see - maybe not to have some obese, middle-aged asswipe take zoomed shots of her crotch? Is that really too much to ask?

Yes, it's too much to ask, your in public. If one wanted to ensure that some horny old dude was not going to show up schedule the photo shoot indoors, how hard is that? And wait, if the dude with the camera was 22 and hot than it would not be any less harassing?..
 

lupi

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lol, so damn funny. your wish you worked as hard as me, lol douchebag in a biker outfit. entire thing sooo damn hilarious, and of course in nyc.
 

BUTCH1

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i understand that, but it's still wrong. and all those who are defending this guy and calling the bike dude a douchebag are almost as disgusting as the creep who was taking videos of the girl.

No one is arguing that he's weather or not he's acting like a creep, he is. What we are saying is he has a right to use his video camera on a public street wherever he damm well chooses, why was it so important that the girl had to be in public? and please the "he was raping her with his camera" just makes you sound like an idiot, in fact if the old bitch and bike dude don't make a fuss no one might have even have noticed him taping, he wasn't making rude comments or bothering her in any way at all now was he?..
 

moshquerade

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Yes, it's too much to ask, your in public. If one wanted to ensure that some horny old dude was not going to show up schedule the photo shoot indoors, how hard is that? And wait, if the dude with the camera was 22 and hot than it would not be any less harassing?..
why do you and others think you have a right to say the guy who is just filming this girl to make an awkward video intent on embarrassing the girl and causing a scene for the Howard Stern show is fine, but we don't have a right to say he's a jackass?
 

eits

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No, that's not my "logic" at all and your statement that I approve rape I find insulting, I have never myself raised my hand to a woman and find those who do cowards. Now, my point is if your going to act like she did on a crowded NYC street you can't really be surprised by what happened. If I think it's a good idea to adorn a pair of daisy dukes on my 210lb ass should I be shocked when I'm laughed at??. This girl had on very revealing shorts and thrusts her (fine) ass over a chair and remains stationary for several minutes in the middle of a street, should she be surprised when some unsavory dude tapes her??..

"very revealing shorts" lol

watch the video again from the beginning. yes, that is obviously behavior of a girl who is trying to get attention from creeps. she's tugging her shorts down. also, those are shorts that girls wear everyday. they're nothing special, nothing revealing, nothing scanalous, etc. they're just regular girl shorts. the girl obviously didn't want any attention drawn to her... she just wanted these shots taken so she had good senior photos. that's all.

the girl's mom was even there coaching her and trying to keep the dude from violating her daughter's privacy with the camera. yeah, anyone should be surprised if there's some perv practically sticking his camera lens up some jailbait's shorts without her consent and in public.

you probably don't have a daughter or a girlfriend... otherwise, you might understand how this could be pretty disturbing to some people and how that fat fuck should have had his teeth punched in. whether it wasn't illegal or not isn't the point. what he did is.
 

sjwaste

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why do you and others think you have a right to say the guy who is just filming this girl to make an awkward video intent on embarrassing the girl and causing a scene for the Howard Stern show is fine, but we don't have a right to say he's a jackass?

What I find funny is that all of the ATOT lawyers who chimed in came in on the side of the camera guy being a jackass. And we get a bad name in society.

I seriously can't fathom how the camera guy can be "right" in this situation at all.
 

PhoKingGuy

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What I find funny is that all of the ATOT lawyers who chimed in came in on the side of the camera guy being a jackass. And we get a bad name in society.

I seriously can't fathom how the camera guy can be "right" in this situation at all.

Legally, hes in the clear.

Other than that, hes being a jackass. I think its a gray area though, we used to have cheerleading camps at my college during the summer and they hired campus police to shoo "deter" scrupulous figures from taking pics of all the girls.

The girl was probably taking pics for a portfolio or something artsy.
 

BUTCH1

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why do you and others think you have a right to say the guy who is just filming this girl to make an awkward video intent on embarrassing the girl and causing a scene for the Howard Stern show is fine, but we don't have a right to say he's a jackass?

You do, and but that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it, fact is if your doing a photo shoot on a public street, to bad, so sad, he has a right to be there as well jackass or not. What right does the old bad have to tell him where he can/can't aim his camera?? NONE..really if you think about it if they just let him be probably would have gone unnoticed, he wasn't making lewd comments or suggestions to the girl, just had a camera on her and that's it..
 

rh71

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lmfao...goober, goober, goober... :p

The video guy sounds like he's either a little slow or on something..

don't you have to be if you work with Stern? I mean the guy is good at what he does but his staff and associates - they're a bit questionable.
 

theeedude

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Actually, he was screwing with them, its what the guy does is go around and screw with people, and that was his intention here. He might have a legal right to do what he did, but likewise, nothing I said for them to do was illegal in any way either, so what's your point?

My point is he should not be harassed by cops for doing what he has a legal right to do, as you suggest.
 
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comparing, yes. equating, no.

learn the difference.

Sorry, its just when you say stuff like this:
this dude tried to take away her choice in the matter and violated her without her consent. that is kinda close to rape... it's just that instead of using his body, he tried using a video camera.
its difficult to not make a much smaller leap of logic than you did.

Lastly, if she was being modest, then why did they assume he was being a perv and get offended? She was obviously doing something that would make them think the guy was filming for that purpose and not some other reason.

My point is he should not be harassed by cops for doing what he has a legal right to do, as you suggest.

Its not harassment anymore than what this guy was doing and was just a suggestion for how they might be able to deflate the situation.
 
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cKGunslinger

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uh, no. if someone says something to the effect of "she was asking for it" for doing something and CLEARLY not "asking for it", then it's applicable. she didn't go out there and wear some miniskirt, try to draw attention to herself, and then strip for people or anything. she just wanted to, most likely, get some senior photos. she was dressed in modest attire and point ballet shoes.

she wasn't "asking for it". this dude tried to take away her choice in the matter and violated her without her consent. that is kinda close to rape... it's just that instead of using his body, he tried using a video camera.

I think I know the answer to this, but I have to ask anyway.. Are you f*cking stupid? o_O
 

BrokenVisage

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What the hell was the girl doing anyway?? Moves the chair up 5 inches, does a leg lift, moves it back 5 inches, another leg lift. I don't care if it has to do with Howard Stern, do that shit in the middle of a busy street in a city like that and it's fair game for guys like him.

And close to rape.. LOL some of you people on here, I swear..
 

SP33Demon

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Legally, hes in the clear.

Other than that, hes being a jackass. I think its a gray area though, we used to have cheerleading camps at my college during the summer and they hired campus police to shoo "deter" scrupulous figures from taking pics of all the girls.

The girl was probably taking pics for a portfolio or something artsy.

Good post. Your college was smart and hired security just like these "artists" should have done if they didn't want to attract pervs like Howard Stern employees. While it's crappy to take crotch shots of a girl doing handstands or whatever, fact of the matter is that if it's in public and doesn't violate privacy laws then it's legally acceptable. Maybe next time they'll take the proper precautions and have some security to deter assholes... if it was my sister, I'd be more pissed at her for being stupid than the pervs there. All she had to do was ask 3 guy friends/relatives to make sure nobody interfered.
 

moshquerade

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You do, and but that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it, fact is if your doing a photo shoot on a public street, to bad, so sad, he has a right to be there as well jackass or not. What right does the old bad have to tell him where he can/can't aim his camera?? NONE..really if you think about it if they just let him be probably would have gone unnoticed, he wasn't making lewd comments or suggestions to the girl, just had a camera on her and that's it..
but... he was trying to get a reaction. that was his whole reason for being there. seriously, if i were actually there i'd tell him to get lost too.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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but... he was trying to get a reaction. that was his whole reason for being there. seriously, if i were actually there i'd tell him to get lost too.

Bullshit, if he was trying to get a reaction he would have been making comments like "hold it there for a sec baby", he said not a word and was no closer to her than anyone else, self-righteous old bat started it all with "I deny you to point your camera at her", again, if no one said anything to him they would have finished the shoot without incident and some dude would have a few minutes of footage of a nice young girl's ass, big deal..
 

moshquerade

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Bullshit, if he was trying to get a reaction he would have been making comments like "hold it there for a sec baby", he said not a word and was no closer to her than anyone else, self-righteous old bat started it all with "I deny you to point your camera at her", again, if no one said anything to him they would have finished the shoot without incident and some dude would have a few minutes of footage of a nice young girl's ass, big deal..
I call bullshit on your bullshit. He made plenty of idiotic, anger inciting comments. He knew by his actions alone that he would get someone to speak up against him, and then he could get them riled up. It was all calculated by a pro.

He was intent on profiting from the footage. Fuck him.
 

preslove

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If you are going to take that shot in Times Square and not want to get video taped/pictard by random people, you should do it with a couple dudes holding up sheets up to block people's view. Such a high percentage of people in Times Square have cameras on them that it's pretty unreasonable to expect people to not use the cameras they're holding in their hands to video tape the novelty.