Performance of GeForce 6800NU is twice as GeForce FX5950 straight from Albatron...

[cm123]

Albatron?s spokesman reportedly officially told that the company?s latest graphics cards, the GeForce 6800 and the GeForce 6800UV, will hit the shelves in Taiwan in early May, a lot earlier than NVIDIA said on the launch day of its NV40 graphics processor.
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The GeForce 6800 Ultra will feature 256MB of GDDR3 memory operating at 1000MHz and will retail for $499. The GeForce 6800 will have 128MB 700 MHz memory onboard and retail for $299. Both have 256 bit memory bus.

Albatron Technology, a leading IT company based out of Taiwan, recently delivered two of the most powerful VGA cards with nVIDIA on the market today. Both the GeForce 6800 and GeForce 6800UV are based on the new 6800 Series nVIDIA GPUs. The new "Trinity" cover girl makes her market debut on this new shiny 6800 box design.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950. The memory clock for the 6800 is rated at 700 MHz and the 6800UV is rated at 1 GHz. The 6800 contains 128 MB of DDR memory and the 6800UV includes 256 MB GDDR 3 memory. Both cards contain a 256-bit memory bus.

The folks at nVIDIA have come out with new features for the 6800 GPUs used by these cards. A new CineFX TM 3.0 engine is capable of turning out the most exciting, eye-popping, motion picture effects ever. Using high-speed 128-bit cinematic imagining, 3D has never before reached such true-to-life rendering. Also, a third generation IntellisampleTM 3.0 provides accurate, high-precision antialiasing and a second generation UltraShadowTM II delivers quite an impressive show of light and shadow manipulation.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV also delivers the latest nView technology allowing you to distribute your Windows desktop over two independent monitors. Separate 400 MHz RAMDAC channels ensure that both monitors can sufficiently keep up with the demands of dual monitor image display. Resolutions up to 2048 x 1536 x 32 bpp (@85 Hz) are supported.

Other features for these cards include D-Sub, DVI, TV-Out, and VIVO (6800UV only) connectors. Albatron also bundles an "S-Video to AV", "S-Video and AV adapter cable", and a "VIVO adapter cable" (6800UV). Bundled software includes WinDVD Creator, "Duke NuKem: Manhattan Project" (retail version) and a 5-in-1 game pack CD-ROM.

The Albatron GeForce 6800 series, with an exciting lineup of new technology, brings both power and beauty to the desktop. The Albatron GeForce 6800 VGA cards ? Graphical computing at its best! This series of products will go on the market in May.



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[Keysplayr]

Didn't albatron post this once before? 600MHz core? But then removed it with a correction saying it will debut at 400MHz? Looks like once again there will be 9000 flavors of each card just to throw confusion into the mix. I guess confusion is a profitable enterprise with PC tech.

 

[sparkyclarky]

The question being - will the NU have the video encoder (not necessarily VIVO) that the U is supposed to have?

 

[Keysplayr]

I believe that all 6800 cores are identical in features, its just that they will have different core/mem speeds and of course the number of pipelines enabled. The encoder should be present in every 6800 die made. As long as the transistor count is 222 million, you will have every transistor that a 6800U has.

 

[Jondbold]

who cares about vivo or encoder go buy an all in wonder

 

[sodcha0s]

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950.

First of all, nowhere in that statement does it say specifically that the 6800NU will be twice as fast as the 5950. If you look carefully it says the core has been clocked UP TO 600Mhz AND CONTAINS 16 PIPELINE DESIGN. That is the ultra version, the non ultra supposedly has 12 pipes, not 16. Besides that, the 6800 is also "rumored" to be clocked at 375Mhz at release.

As far as the encoder goes, I though I read somewhere that only the ultra version will have this feature. I may be thinking of something else, but I think this is the case.

 

[cm123]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950.

First of all, nowhere in that statement does it say specifically that the 6800NU will be twice as fast as the 5950. If you look carefully it says the core has been clocked UP TO 600Mhz AND CONTAINS 16 PIPELINE DESIGN. That is the ultra version, the non ultra supposedly has 12 pipes, not 16. Besides that, the 6800 is also "rumored" to be clocked at 375Mhz at release.

As far as the encoder goes, I though I read somewhere that only the ultra version will have this feature. I may be thinking of something else, but I think this is the case.

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Your crazy, the Albatron spec read clearly "GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950." (we all know the ultra is faster than 2X as well) read the flyer (2nd link), and I do think if Albatron tells you they are releasing a card at a certain speed/clock rate, they the manufacturer would know a little better than you about that speed...

The 2nd link takes you to Albatron website, lists the 6800's and clock/speeds of their cards, talks a bit about what's bundled with their cards as well.

Who the hell cares about rumors when you have hard facts right in front of you? I bet if you buy the Albatron card, you will get what Albratron says your getting or more...

 

[reever]

I bet if you buy the Albatron card, you will get what Albratron says your getting or more...

Actually you would be getting a 400/550 6800ultra.

 

[cm123]

Originally posted by: reever

I bet if you buy the Albatron card, you will get what Albratron says your getting or more...

Actually you would be getting a 400/550 6800ultra.

Ok, instead of the link, I will post the entire flyer from Albatron website, maybe that will make it easier from everyone to see the specs...

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Albatron Technology, a leading IT company based out of Taiwan, recently delivered two of the most powerful VGA cards with nVIDIA on the market today. Both the GeForce 6800 and GeForce 6800UV are based on the new 6800 Series nVIDIA GPUs. The new "Trinity" cover girl makes her market debut on this new shiny 6800 box design.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950. The memory clock for the 6800 is rated at 700 MHz and the 6800UV is rated at 1 GHz. The 6800 contains 128 MB of DDR memory and the 6800UV includes 256 MB GDDR 3 memory. Both cards contain a 256-bit memory bus.

The folks at nVIDIA have come out with new features for the 6800 GPUs used by these cards. A new CineFX TM 3.0 engine is capable of turning out the most exciting, eye-popping, motion picture effects ever. Using high-speed 128-bit cinematic imagining, 3D has never before reached such true-to-life rendering. Also, a third generation IntellisampleTM 3.0 provides accurate, high-precision antialiasing and a second generation UltraShadowTM II delivers quite an impressive show of light and shadow manipulation.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV also delivers the latest nView technology allowing you to distribute your Windows desktop over two independent monitors. Separate 400 MHz RAMDAC channels ensure that both monitors can sufficiently keep up with the demands of dual monitor image display. Resolutions up to 2048 x 1536 x 32 bpp (@85 Hz) are supported.

Other features for these cards include D-Sub, DVI, TV-Out, and VIVO (6800UV only) connectors. Albatron also bundles an "S-Video to AV", "S-Video and AV adapter cable", and a "VIVO adapter cable" (6800UV). Bundled software includes WinDVD Creator, "Duke NuKem: Manhattan Project" (retail version) and a 5-in-1 game pack CD-ROM.

The Albatron GeForce 6800 series, with an exciting lineup of new technology, brings both power and beauty to the desktop. The Albatron GeForce 6800 VGA cards ? Graphical computing at its best! This series of products will go on the market in May.

 

[Marsumane]

Originally posted by: cm123

Originally posted by: reever

I bet if you buy the Albatron card, you will get what Albratron says your getting or more...

Actually you would be getting a 400/550 6800ultra.

Ok, instead of the link, I will post the entire flyer from Albatron website, maybe that will make it easier from everyone to see the specs...

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Albatron Technology, a leading IT company based out of Taiwan, recently delivered two of the most powerful VGA cards with nVIDIA on the market today. Both the GeForce 6800 and GeForce 6800UV are based on the new 6800 Series nVIDIA GPUs. The new "Trinity" cover girl makes her market debut on this new shiny 6800 box design.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950. The memory clock for the 6800 is rated at 700 MHz and the 6800UV is rated at 1 GHz. The 6800 contains 128 MB of DDR memory and the 6800UV includes 256 MB GDDR 3 memory. Both cards contain a 256-bit memory bus.

The folks at nVIDIA have come out with new features for the 6800 GPUs used by these cards. A new CineFX TM 3.0 engine is capable of turning out the most exciting, eye-popping, motion picture effects ever. Using high-speed 128-bit cinematic imagining, 3D has never before reached such true-to-life rendering. Also, a third generation IntellisampleTM 3.0 provides accurate, high-precision antialiasing and a second generation UltraShadowTM II delivers quite an impressive show of light and shadow manipulation.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV also delivers the latest nView technology allowing you to distribute your Windows desktop over two independent monitors. Separate 400 MHz RAMDAC channels ensure that both monitors can sufficiently keep up with the demands of dual monitor image display. Resolutions up to 2048 x 1536 x 32 bpp (@85 Hz) are supported.

Other features for these cards include D-Sub, DVI, TV-Out, and VIVO (6800UV only) connectors. Albatron also bundles an "S-Video to AV", "S-Video and AV adapter cable", and a "VIVO adapter cable" (6800UV). Bundled software includes WinDVD Creator, "Duke NuKem: Manhattan Project" (retail version) and a 5-in-1 game pack CD-ROM.

The Albatron GeForce 6800 series, with an exciting lineup of new technology, brings both power and beauty to the desktop. The Albatron GeForce 6800 VGA cards ? Graphical computing at its best! This series of products will go on the market in May.

"has been"? Are they implying that they have had yields of 600mhz gpus or are they just illinformed?

 

[reever]

Originally posted by: cm123

Originally posted by: reever

I bet if you buy the Albatron card, you will get what Albratron says your getting or more...

Actually you would be getting a 400/550 6800ultra.

Ok, instead of the link, I will post the entire flyer from Albatron website, maybe that will make it easier from everyone to see the specs...

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Albatron Technology, a leading IT company based out of Taiwan, recently delivered two of the most powerful VGA cards with nVIDIA on the market today. Both the GeForce 6800 and GeForce 6800UV are based on the new 6800 Series nVIDIA GPUs. The new "Trinity" cover girl makes her market debut on this new shiny 6800 box design.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950. The memory clock for the 6800 is rated at 700 MHz and the 6800UV is rated at 1 GHz. The 6800 contains 128 MB of DDR memory and the 6800UV includes 256 MB GDDR 3 memory. Both cards contain a 256-bit memory bus.

The folks at nVIDIA have come out with new features for the 6800 GPUs used by these cards. A new CineFX TM 3.0 engine is capable of turning out the most exciting, eye-popping, motion picture effects ever. Using high-speed 128-bit cinematic imagining, 3D has never before reached such true-to-life rendering. Also, a third generation IntellisampleTM 3.0 provides accurate, high-precision antialiasing and a second generation UltraShadowTM II delivers quite an impressive show of light and shadow manipulation.

The GeForce 6800/6800UV also delivers the latest nView technology allowing you to distribute your Windows desktop over two independent monitors. Separate 400 MHz RAMDAC channels ensure that both monitors can sufficiently keep up with the demands of dual monitor image display. Resolutions up to 2048 x 1536 x 32 bpp (@85 Hz) are supported.

Other features for these cards include D-Sub, DVI, TV-Out, and VIVO (6800UV only) connectors. Albatron also bundles an "S-Video to AV", "S-Video and AV adapter cable", and a "VIVO adapter cable" (6800UV). Bundled software includes WinDVD Creator, "Duke NuKem: Manhattan Project" (retail version) and a 5-in-1 game pack CD-ROM.

The Albatron GeForce 6800 series, with an exciting lineup of new technology, brings both power and beauty to the desktop. The Albatron GeForce 6800 VGA cards ? Graphical computing at its best! This series of products will go on the market in May.

And then i'll post the correction, which if you even bother to google 600mhz 6800, would be all over the first page

http://www.clubic.com/n/n12402.html


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Several sites were made yesterday the echo of a chart Ultra GeForce 6800 not very banal, Albatron 6800 UV. This chart was distinguished, according to these same sites, by its frequencies of operation higher than normal, namely 600 MHz for the GPU and 700 MHz for the memory! In order to raise any ambiguity on this product, which would not have displeased to us with such frequencies, we contacted Albatron to check the exactitude of the information published on the site of the manufacturer. Unfortunately, the manufacturer indicated to us that it had been mistaken and that the frequencies of the chart will be in conformity with those announced by NVIDIA with knowing 400 MHz for the GPU and 550 MHz for the memory. In its nonultra version the chart will be given rhythm to 375 MHz for the GPU and 350 MHz for the memory.

 

[sodcha0s]

Your crazy, the Albatron spec read clearly "GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950." (we all know the ultra is faster than 2X as well) read the flyer (2nd link), and I do think if Albatron tells you they are releasing a card at a certain speed/clock rate, they the manufacturer would know a little better than you about that speed...

Wow, you are delusional, or I am blind. Please highlite exactly where it says what you claim.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: cm123

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950.

First of all, nowhere in that statement does it say specifically that the 6800NU will be twice as fast as the 5950. If you look carefully it says the core has been clocked UP TO 600Mhz AND CONTAINS 16 PIPELINE DESIGN. That is the ultra version, the non ultra supposedly has 12 pipes, not 16. Besides that, the 6800 is also "rumored" to be clocked at 375Mhz at release.

As far as the encoder goes, I though I read somewhere that only the ultra version will have this feature. I may be thinking of something else, but I think this is the case.

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Your crazy, the Albatron spec read clearly "GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950." (we all know the ultra is faster than 2X as well) read the flyer (2nd link), and I do think if Albatron tells you they are releasing a card at a certain speed/clock rate, they the manufacturer would know a little better than you about that speed...

The 2nd link takes you to Albatron website, lists the 6800's and clock/speeds of their cards, talks a bit about what's bundled with their cards as well.

Who the hell cares about rumors when you have hard facts right in front of you? I bet if you buy the Albatron card, you will get what Albratron says your getting or more...

Actually, YOU'RE crazy.

"The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950."

The 16 pipe version is the Ultra, and they state 16 pipelines.
It also says "therefore" twice as fast, not actually twice as fast.
It doesn't make any sense, and is just marketing BS. There is no reason that just because it can be clocked up to 600MHz and has a 16 pipe core that it woul dbe twice as fast.

Also:

based on the new 6800 Series nVIDIA GPUs

It seems to suggest the GPU when used in cards can be twice as fast (it references the GPU NOT card in the sentence preceding the speed claim)

It's just marketing people BSing and getting confused. The 6800U is twice as fast, in some situations.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950.

First of all, nowhere in that statement does it say specifically that the 6800NU will be twice as fast as the 5950. If you look carefully it says the core has been clocked UP TO 600Mhz AND CONTAINS 16 PIPELINE DESIGN. That is the ultra version, the non ultra supposedly has 12 pipes, not 16. Besides that, the 6800 is also "rumored" to be clocked at 375Mhz at release.

As far as the encoder goes, I though I read somewhere that only the ultra version will have this feature. I may be thinking of something else, but I think this is the case.

Try to find out where you read this and post a link if you could.

 

[Keysplayr]

And are all of you guys going to nitpick over this BS for the rest of your lives? Just wait dammit.
I cant believe you are all arguing over things that really do not matter right now. Its all hear-say.

 

[sodcha0s]

Try to find out where you read this and post a link if you could.

Came up empty, so I must have been mistaken. If I come across something definitive either way I'll post a link.

And are all of you guys going to nitpick over this BS for the rest of your lives?

LOL, no kidding. Nobody knows what ANY of the new cards' specs are going to be at release. It is annoying though when someone posts proof of their claims, and there is absolutely nothing in the "proof" to back them up. And cm123 originally posted in a different thread that the plain 6800 (Albatron) was going to be AT LEAST twice as fast as the 9800XT, which is doubtful. OK, I'm done now.... :beer:

 

[Ackmed]

I cant believe people still think there will be a 600Mhz core 6800 Ultra.

"The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950"

That statement is so full of PR its not even funny.

 

[Pete]

"The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950."
In no possible way can this be construed to mean the MSRP$300 6800 will be 2x as fast as the 5950U, either in or out of context. I'll elaborate if nec'y, but I hope to hell it's not.

 

[cm123]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

Try to find out where you read this and post a link if you could.

Came up empty, so I must have been mistaken. If I come across something definitive either way I'll post a link.

And are all of you guys going to nitpick over this BS for the rest of your lives?

LOL, no kidding. Nobody knows what ANY of the new cards' specs are going to be at release. It is annoying though when someone posts proof of their claims, and there is absolutely nothing in the "proof" to back them up. And cm123 originally posted in a different thread that the plain 6800 (Albatron) was going to be AT LEAST twice as fast as the 9800XT, which is doubtful. OK, I'm done now.... :beer:

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You full of it, never did I post the 6800nu speed twice the 9800XT... this is the twice speed post here...

jusss, take a break on the ATI lov'in, I happen to of posted the ATI retail info that said the X800 will be twice the speed of the 9800, which is somewhere here still in the forums...

My posts of are that of the manufacturers claims as with this post, stop playing a jackass for whatever reason... THIS IS ALBATRON'S OWN POST OF THE SPECS OF THEIR CARD, HENCE THE LINK TO THEIR NEWS RELEASE, HENCE IT THEM LISTING THE SPECS OF THEIR OWN VER OF THE 6800'S.

 

[sodcha0s]

You full of it, never did I post the 6800nu speed twice the 9800XT... this is the twice speed post here...

Oops, you're right. My bad. This was in another thread, but it was somone else that made the claim. My apologies.

My posts of are that of the manufacturers claims as with this post, stop playing a jackass for whatever reason... THIS IS ALBATRON'S OWN POST OF THE SPECS OF THEIR CARD, HENCE THE LINK TO THEIR NEWS RELEASE, HENCE IT THEM LISTING THE SPECS OF THEIR OWN VER OF THE 6800'S.

Look at the title of the thread.

 

[cm123]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

Your crazy, the Albatron spec read clearly "GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950." (we all know the ultra is faster than 2X as well) read the flyer (2nd link), and I do think if Albatron tells you they are releasing a card at a certain speed/clock rate, they the manufacturer would know a little better than you about that speed...

Wow, you are delusional, or I am blind. Please highlite exactly where it says what you claim.

Good god, Albatron own news release above, 2nd paragraph, it reads:

The GeForce 6800/6800UV VGA cards also apply AGP 8X that can support the design of most mainboards on the market. The GPU has been clocked up to speeds of 600 MHz and contains 16 pipeline design, therefore the performance of GeForce 6800 is twice as GeForce FX5950. The memory clock for the 6800 is rated at 700 MHz and the 6800UV is rated at 1 GHz. The 6800 contains 128 MB of DDR memory and the 6800UV includes 256 MB GDDR 3 memory. Both cards contain a 256-bit memory bus.
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I didn't write the webpage for Albatron, click the link, read it with your own eyes. What the hell, I made the comment that the Ultra is 2X faster for sure, which it is in many bench marks.

If you such a problem with the Albatron news release, take it up with them and stop trying to play as a expert for them, I'm sure they will do just fine on their own, if they are wrong about their own product specs in which you have not even seen the card yourself yet, then post your proof once you can. Its not problem you don't care for the speeds they post of the 6800's.

 

[cm123]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s

You full of it, never did I post the 6800nu speed twice the 9800XT... this is the twice speed post here...

Oops, you're right. My bad. This was in another thread, but it was somone else that made the claim. My apologies.

My posts of are that of the manufacturers claims as with this post, stop playing a jackass for whatever reason... THIS IS ALBATRON'S OWN POST OF THE SPECS OF THEIR CARD, HENCE THE LINK TO THEIR NEWS RELEASE, HENCE IT THEM LISTING THE SPECS OF THEIR OWN VER OF THE 6800'S.

Look at the title of the thread.

The title is from the news release...

 

[Pete]

"I didn't write the webpage for Albatron, click the link, read it with your own eyes. What the hell, I made the comment that the Ultra is 2X faster for sure, which it is in many bench marks."
Yout title clearly says NU, and Albatron's PR speak that led you to believe so seems to be only so much hand-waving. The context of that "twice as fast claim" indicated they're talking about the part with the 16-pipe, "600MHz" core. nV itself has said the 6800[NU] will be 12-pipe, and rumors place it at 375/350MHz, so, not twice as fast. I guess we'll have to wait for benches to settle this, but 3DC's underclocking tests seem to indicate the 6800 will be ~35% slower than the 6800U (~40% slower at 300/300 & ~30% slower at 300/400; 6800 will have about the same fillrate as a 300MHz 6800U and bandwidth in between 300 & 400MHz).

"The title is from the news release..."
Albatron's title: "2004/4/16 --- High-end GeForce 6 series card with all new technology promises consumers an out-of-world experience!
Albatron's GeForce 6800/6800UV vie for top spots in the VGA card market!"

Anyway, I'm guessing you created this thread rather than posting in your (day-old) previous thread because you thought it was news-worthy that a 6800 will be twice as fast as a 5950U. That's not going to be the case, even assuming my 375/350 clocks. The nV slide reported on here indicates the 6800 may even be 12 pipes and 325/350MHz, in which case it'll have no chance of being overall twice as fast as a 5950U, especially with only 128MB.