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Perception is killing Internet Explorer

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Ns1 said:
you mean require IE8?

Same here, except Q1 2013...

FWIW, my desktop machine just got IE8 this year.
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We're moving from IE6 to IE8, and as I understand it, there has been a number of significant issues exposed that has required varying levels of redevelopment across the board.

I'm not exactly techy, but I believe the tabbed browsing has had a part to play with the issues.

Anyway, I'm part of the Win7/IE8 pilot and have not long received my new company laptop (much love):

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I actually rather like IE9, but I can't use it consistently until they put in a decent session restore feature.

We finally moved up to IE7 at work not too long ago. A handful of groups have IE8 for specific sites they use, but the overall baseline is 7.
 
RPD said:
Woosh.
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not sure where the woosh is. At the risk of making an ass out of myself, please educate me on why

<IMG>http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/demotivational-posters-the-new-internet-explorer.jpg</IMG> (I replaced [] with <>)
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not showing up on FF/Chrome = woosh
 
i switched from ff to chrome a while back and havent looked back.

ive got windows 7, but i dont think ive upgraded to ie 9 yet. i only use IE for testing stuff against my server 2008 VMs so i dont really care
 
Ns1 said:
not sure where the woosh is. At the risk of making an ass out of myself, please educate me on why



not showing up on FF/Chrome = woosh
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Oops, sorry over estimated the humor in his picture. Thought he just put a stock broken link as an image.:whiste:
 
Ns1 said:
lol @ replies so far






what's really killing IE9+ are corporate applications that require IE6-IE8...
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Yeah my school insists on using websites that need older versions. Not just the Blackboard software for the school itself but any time I get into a class with an additional web signup (Pearson and such) they always need very particular things from your browser which is bullshit cuz the online lessons are clunky and suck ass anyway. I'd just as soon not use them at all and get what I paid for in class. If I wanted a fuckin online degree thats what I would have done.
 
shortylickens said:
Yeah my school insists on using websites that need older versions. Not just the Blackboard software for the school itself but any time I get into a class with an additional web signup (Pearson and such) they always need very particular things from your browser which is bullshit cuz the online lessons are clunky and suck ass anyway. I'd just as soon not use them at all and get what I paid for in class. If I wanted a fuckin online degree thats what I would have done.
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hehe, when I took my Redhat courses, it was half online, with all of the assignments submitted or completed online, so simulators could be used. Instructor mandated the use of Firefox and insisted that he only get documents emailed to him in OOo formats. He used Fedora as his personal OS, on his work laptop. Being the Linux Department Director had its advantages.
 
I would love to see IE die tbh. MS has failed time and time again to comply with standards, why? because they don't care, given they controll(ed) the market. In fact they create their own such as Active X. So many apps run ONLY in IE, and that's bullshit. The whole idea behind a web app is that it should not require a specific platform.

Well if IE dies, a more open web app market will be born, and I think we're already starting to see that. Most web apps now arn't depending on Active X and other proprietary crap. MS tried to pull off another proprietary web platform (Silverlight) which from what I heard, they actually decided to stop bothering with. Good. We don't need yet another proprietary web platform. Now if only Flash could die too. HTML5 hopefully is the future.
 
IE9 is okay but it's really the browser that they should have released years ago. Given that the web browser is the one program most people use way, way more often than everything else, even tiny quirks can turn into huge annoyances. I for one hate that ctrl+K doesn't take you to the search field as it does in Firefox and Chrome (it's ctrl+E; ctrl+K in IE9 opens a new tab with the same page as the current tab). At least ctrl+L highlights the location bar instead of the old way where it opened the "Open Location" dialog.
 
KingstonU said:
Can someone else confirm the part in bold? IE9 is better on battery life?
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MS did some testing of their own, and I based it on that. Alas, I just found a comparison by Tom's and the most efficient one was actually Firefox. Still, Chrome doesn't look good when it comes to web browsing battery life. If we were to double the battery capacity the difference between Firefox and Chrome would be ~15 minutes.
 
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So far, all browsers suck in terms of cache management. I want something where I have complete and utter control of content and cache. At least with IE, you can pull up the actual cache; whereas firefox, it's not so easy. I hate chrome.

Anyways, I use firefox and opera. It's the only two browsers that allows me to store web cache onto RAM only. That's how I want to use the internet, and the only way I want to use it.
I also got way used to firefox's history keyword address bar thing. It's awesome.
After using noscript for awhile, I can't use a browser without it. IE9 is a good browser though, but I still use FF.
 
DanTMWTMP said:
So far, all browsers suck in terms of cache management. I want something where I have complete and utter control of content and cache. At least with IE, you can pull up the actual cache; whereas firefox, it's not so easy. I hate chrome.

Anyways, I use firefox and opera. It's the only two browsers that allows me to store web cache onto RAM only. That's how I want to use the internet, and the only way I want to use it.
I also got way used to firefox's history keyword address bar thing. It's awesome.
After using noscript for awhile, I can't use a browser without it. IE9 is a good browser though, but I still use FF.
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Chrome introduced the RAM-only "incognito mode" :colbert:

I affectionately call this "porn mode."
 
DanTMWTMP said:
:whiste::ninja: quietly downloads chrome:ninja::whiste:

It's been over a year since I've used it.. I didn't like it then :$
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You can copy the shortcut and add the -incognito switch to the shortcut properties so it always launches in porn mode. When you need to check something really quick and you aren't sure about it, just copy the URL and press Ctrl+Shift+N to open a new window in porn mode, then Ctrl+V and [Enter]
 
DanTMWTMP said:
So far, all browsers suck in terms of cache management. I want something where I have complete and utter control of content and cache. At least with IE, you can pull up the actual cache; whereas firefox, it's not so easy. I hate chrome.

Anyways, I use firefox and opera. It's the only two browsers that allows me to store web cache onto RAM only. That's how I want to use the internet, and the only way I want to use it.
I also got way used to firefox's history keyword address bar thing. It's awesome.
After using noscript for awhile, I can't use a browser without it. IE9 is a good browser though, but I still use FF.
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I hate this too, like if you hit back, it refreshes. NO, I don't want to refresh, I actually want to go back, to the cached copy. Maybe I made a mistake on a form or something and I just want to go correct it. Maybe the server is now down, but if I can at least get to the page I can read what was there... but no, firefox has to try to load it from the server again. This does agravate me.

Opera has an interesting system, you can actually edit a page in cache. I wish firefox would allow this. It is great for testing web forms to ensure the script that handles it will properly deal with bad user data (like sending something not in a select box)
 
DanTMWTMP said:
So far, all browsers suck in terms of cache management. I want something where I have complete and utter control of content and cache. At least with IE, you can pull up the actual cache; whereas firefox, it's not so easy. I hate chrome.

Anyways, I use firefox and opera. It's the only two browsers that allows me to store web cache onto RAM only. That's how I want to use the internet, and the only way I want to use it.
I also got way used to firefox's history keyword address bar thing. It's awesome.
After using noscript for awhile, I can't use a browser without it. IE9 is a good browser though, but I still use FF.
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I feel the same way. I actually want some sort of mixmash of IE and Chrome now tbh. I don't use FF anymore(only for testing at work do I use it), I fucking hate it and its stupid fucking memory leaks.
 
lxskllr said:
Yea, it's too common. It's problem that doesn't have to be. Years ago, when IE6 was the only player, there was at least a half-assed excuse, but anything made since the age of Firefox should be standards based.
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Making things that only work with IE is what happens when kids are spoon-fed the microsoft kool-aid in high school and college.

Before smart phones became popular, how many kids used anything besides IE? How many schools use firefox or chrome, or linux, or MAC,,, instead of microsoft products?

Microsoft knows the value of introducing teenagers to products. Because product loyalty kicks in, and when those kids enter the job market, they take that loyalty with them.

When I was taking my microsoft college classes in the late 1990s, almost nothing was mentioned of other products. So when college graduates hit the job market, they honestly believe there is no reason to code for anything besides microsoft.
 
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