Perceived racism linked to weight gain

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Amused

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Typical blame shifting.

Addicts do it, life long failures do it... and obese people too. Nothing is their fault. It's all done to them.

For many, racism has become a crutch to support them. A crutch to justify their own shortcomings and failures.

The typical attitude of these people is to blame everything but themselves for their own failures.

What is sad about this story is they have the cart before the horse. It's not the raciosm that makes them fat. It's the blaming everyone and eveything else for their own failure to control their lifestyle that made them fat.

But honestly, who is worse? The people who fall into this cycle? Or the people who enable them?
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

Typical republican ideology... dismiss facts, logics, and science. How's that intelligent design working out for you?

P.S. I didn't say it was someone else's fault, but increase of stress (whether from racism or other sources) induces a lot of people to eat fat rich foods as a coping mechanism.

LOLREPUBLICANS.
How about you argue the point at hand instead of bringing up stupid ass arguments like intelligent design. How does that have ANYTHING to do with what we are discussing?

I'm not even a republican, just trying to point out that you sound like the typical liberal. Its always someone else fault, and that person at fault deserves to PAY FOR IT!

So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women. Thats quite the jump in logic there....... Please show me one person who doesnt deal with stress on a regular basis? Its a basic part of life, how you cope with it is YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This study makes a retarded point.

Dude, stop giving the troll what he wants.
 

PricklyPete

Lifer
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Wow..the never ending search for reason's someone is obese. Lets blame everyone else instead of our fat ass.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?


there is a certain amount of stress needed just to hold your head up. pardon me while i get another twinkie so i can deal with that. :confused:

Yep. Most of us have stress in our lives. I'd love to stuff my face full of Oreos every night to make myself feel better, but I don't. When I start getting stressed out I exercise instead. I use whatever is bothering me to motivate me and I feel better afterward.

 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

Typical republican ideology... dismiss facts, logics, and science. How's that intelligent design working out for you?

P.S. I didn't say it was someone else's fault, but increase of stress (whether from racism or other sources) induces a lot of people to eat fat rich foods as a coping mechanism.

LOLREPUBLICANS.
How about you argue the point at hand instead of bringing up stupid ass arguments like intelligent design. How does that have ANYTHING to do with what we are discussing?

I'm not even a republican, just trying to point out that you sound like the typical liberal. Its always someone else fault, and that person at fault deserves to PAY FOR IT!

So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women. Thats quite the jump in logic there....... Please show me one person who doesnt deal with stress on a regular basis? Its a basic part of life, how you cope with it is YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This study makes a retarded point.

Ahahahahaha, first of all, YOU brought up politics into it and used a straw man argument.

Second of all, you just libeled me: "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women."

Where did i *EVER* say that?

You're an idiot and certainly sound like your typical conservative.

So whose fault is it that these people are fat? Is it the racists fault, or their own?

Edit: And if it is their own fault, then what is the point of this study? What are they trying to prove? That stress can cause weight gain? Well, no shit Sherlock. If you cope with stress by eating, then its your own damn prerogative.

What does FAULT have to do with the point of the study? The point is to show how an environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more. Are you retarded? Don't answer that. The point of the 'intelligent design' was to draw a parallel and show how you conservative morons disdain knowledge.

Also, you still didn't show where your assertion that i said anything near "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women." is true.

As well as science and research, you conservative morons fail at reading comprehension.
 

Nik

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Jun 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: Maximilian
Originally posted by: Arcadio
There's always a silly excuse for being obese.

Yeah fat people suck. They dont even need to excercise just eat less, simple as that.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
 

cheezy321

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Dec 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

Typical republican ideology... dismiss facts, logics, and science. How's that intelligent design working out for you?

P.S. I didn't say it was someone else's fault, but increase of stress (whether from racism or other sources) induces a lot of people to eat fat rich foods as a coping mechanism.

LOLREPUBLICANS.
How about you argue the point at hand instead of bringing up stupid ass arguments like intelligent design. How does that have ANYTHING to do with what we are discussing?

I'm not even a republican, just trying to point out that you sound like the typical liberal. Its always someone else fault, and that person at fault deserves to PAY FOR IT!

So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women. Thats quite the jump in logic there....... Please show me one person who doesnt deal with stress on a regular basis? Its a basic part of life, how you cope with it is YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This study makes a retarded point.

Ahahahahaha, first of all, YOU brought up politics into it and used a straw man argument.

Second of all, you just libeled me: "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women."

Where did i *EVER* say that?

You're an idiot and certainly sound like your typical conservative.

So whose fault is it that these people are fat? Is it the racists fault, or their own?

Edit: And if it is their own fault, then what is the point of this study? What are they trying to prove? That stress can cause weight gain? Well, no shit Sherlock. If you cope with stress by eating, then its your own damn prerogative.

What does FAULT have to do with the point of the study? The point is to show how an environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more. Are you retarded? Don't answer that. The point of the 'intelligent design' was to draw a parallel and show how you conservative morons disdain knowledge.

Also, you still didn't show where your assertion that i said anything near "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women." is true.

As well as science and research, you conservative morons fail at reading comprehension.

Quit calling me a conservative. I said earlier I wasn't a republican nor a conservative.

Fault has everything to do with the study. Are you reading the same thing I am? You are trying to make this study sound like its some neutral observation. It is trying to link racism to obesity.
A new study from Boston University links these smoldering signs of racism to weight gain in black women, suggesting a possible explanation for the their higher obesity rates compared to white women.
Is that suggestion not trying to fault someone or something? Isn't that the whole point of this study? Explanation = Fault = Blame. Is this not straightforward?

Your parallel to intelligent design is so off base its hilarious. You were also the one who brought up the straw man argument. Oh the irony!

You wanna hear my point? Ill take your exact fucking words to make it really easy for you.

"My point is to show how *ANY* environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more."

Any situation can induce people to eat more. Whether it is because they are very happy or because they are stressed out beyond belief. BUT MOST OF THE TIME ITS THE OWN PERSONS DAMN FAULT.

Are you a fatty?

 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

Typical republican ideology... dismiss facts, logics, and science. How's that intelligent design working out for you?

P.S. I didn't say it was someone else's fault, but increase of stress (whether from racism or other sources) induces a lot of people to eat fat rich foods as a coping mechanism.

LOLREPUBLICANS.
How about you argue the point at hand instead of bringing up stupid ass arguments like intelligent design. How does that have ANYTHING to do with what we are discussing?

I'm not even a republican, just trying to point out that you sound like the typical liberal. Its always someone else fault, and that person at fault deserves to PAY FOR IT!

So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women. Thats quite the jump in logic there....... Please show me one person who doesnt deal with stress on a regular basis? Its a basic part of life, how you cope with it is YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This study makes a retarded point.

Ahahahahaha, first of all, YOU brought up politics into it and used a straw man argument.

Second of all, you just libeled me: "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women."

Where did i *EVER* say that?

You're an idiot and certainly sound like your typical conservative.

So whose fault is it that these people are fat? Is it the racists fault, or their own?

Edit: And if it is their own fault, then what is the point of this study? What are they trying to prove? That stress can cause weight gain? Well, no shit Sherlock. If you cope with stress by eating, then its your own damn prerogative.

What does FAULT have to do with the point of the study? The point is to show how an environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more. Are you retarded? Don't answer that. The point of the 'intelligent design' was to draw a parallel and show how you conservative morons disdain knowledge.

Also, you still didn't show where your assertion that i said anything near "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women." is true.

As well as science and research, you conservative morons fail at reading comprehension.

Quit calling me a conservative. I said earlier I wasn't a republican nor a conservative.

Fault has everything to do with the study. Are you reading the same thing I am? You are trying to make this study sound like its some neutral observation. It is trying to link racism to obesity.
A new study from Boston University links these smoldering signs of racism to weight gain in black women, suggesting a possible explanation for the their higher obesity rates compared to white women.
Is that suggestion not trying to fault someone or something? Isn't that the whole point of this study? Explanation = Fault = Blame. Is this not straightforward?

Your parallel to intelligent design is so off base its hilarious. You were also the one who brought up the straw man argument. Oh the irony!

You wanna hear my point? Ill take your exact fucking words to make it really easy for you.

"My point is to show how *ANY* environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more."

Any situation can induce people to eat more. Whether it is because they are very happy or because they are stressed out beyond belief. BUT MOST OF THE TIME ITS THE OWN PERSONS DAMN FAULT.

Are you a fatty?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Besides libeling me, you're even CHANGING my words

My words:

"The point is to show how an environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more"

YOUR quote of me:

"My point is to show how *ANY* environment can trigger certain hormones that would induce the likelyhood that one would eat more."

Am i supposed to take you seriously? You're a lying piece of shit.

Also, read your fucking quote again:

A new study from Boston University links these smoldering signs of racism to weight gain in black women, suggesting a possible explanation for the their higher obesity rates compared to white women.

*POSSIBLE* explanation, you retard, do you understand english?
 

cheezy321

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I added a "Y" to your quote. Its the entire point I am trying to make.

Heres the headline of the article:
Perceived racism linked to weight gain, Boston researchers say
- This is the damn headline of the article. If they are not trying to make an explanation of the weight gain, then what are they trying to do?

Heres the first sentence:
Perceptions of racism -- from being treated with suspicion in a store to unfairness in employment or housing -- can heighten stress levels and affect health, research has shown.

Heres another quote:
"Racism is real and it has real effects," Cozier said in an interview. "It can result in real changes in the body."

Well no duh scientists. Everything is real and has real effects. Anything and everything can result in real changes in the body. *EVERYTHING* is a possible explanation for ANYTHING, its a cop out.

THIS ISNT SOMETHING NEW OR GROUNDBREAKING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK I AM TRYING TO SAY?

So please answer my question. How much do you weigh?
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Phokus
*snip*

So just how fat is your ass?

The fattest people live in red states, FYI. :laugh: Man you conservatives are dumb.

Exactly, because that is where all the percieved racism is. :laugh:


So be honest, what does your hippie liberal ass weigh? 300? 350?
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: cheezy321
I added a "Y" to your quote. Its the entire point I am trying to make.

Sure thing buddy... just like your assertion that i ever said anything near "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women." is true :roll:

I'm going to bold a few words in your stupid ass quote, this is nowhere near saying 'zomg, racism is the cause of all fat black women' or 'zomg, they're blaming racism for obesity', it's ***POSSIBLY*** a cause and it ***CAN*** lead to obesity, you simpleton

Heres the headline of the article:
Perceived racism linked to weight gain, Boston researchers say
- This is the damn headline of the article. If they are not trying to make an explanation of the weight gain, then what are they trying to do?

Heres the first sentence:
Perceptions of racism -- from being treated with suspicion in a store to unfairness in employment or housing -- can heighten stress levels and affect health, research has shown.

Heres another quote:
"Racism is real and it has real effects," Cozier said in an interview. "It can result in real changes in the body."

Well no duh scientists. Everything is real and has real effects. Anything and everything can result in real changes in the body. *EVERYTHING* is a possible explanation for ANYTHING, its a cop out.

THIS ISNT SOMETHING NEW OR GROUNDBREAKING. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK I AM TRYING TO SAY?

So please answer my question. How much do you weigh?

5'10" 175

now please answer this (for the 100th time): where does "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women." even come into play? Show me where i said racism is the cause of all fat black women, you lying piece of shit.


 

ElFenix

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cheezy321 and Phokus stop derailing the thread.

ATOT Moderator ElFenix
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Phokus
*snip*

So just how fat is your ass?

The fattest people live in red states, FYI. :laugh: Man you conservatives are dumb.

Exactly, because that is where all the percieved racism is. :laugh:


So be honest, what does your hippie liberal ass weigh? 300? 350?

As a fat hippie liberal living in a red state, I find this highly offensive.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Yes lets not blame ourselves for being fat and sitting on our ass all day while eating a tub of haagen daz.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

WTF? :confused:

how does that statement in any way = blaming someone else? Phokus was merely pointing out research backed evidence that stress is a common factor that leads to weight gain.

racism leading to stress, could therefore lead to weight gain. Makes sense, but the study seems pointless.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

Typical republican ideology... dismiss facts, logics, and science. How's that intelligent design working out for you?

P.S. I didn't say it was someone else's fault, but increase of stress (whether from racism or other sources) induces a lot of people to eat fat rich foods as a coping mechanism.

LOLREPUBLICANS.
How about you argue the point at hand instead of bringing up stupid ass arguments like intelligent design. How does that have ANYTHING to do with what we are discussing?

I'm not even a republican, just trying to point out that you sound like the typical liberal. Its always someone else fault, and that person at fault deserves to PAY FOR IT!

So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women. Thats quite the jump in logic there....... Please show me one person who doesnt deal with stress on a regular basis? Its a basic part of life, how you cope with it is YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. This study makes a retarded point.

Ahahahahaha, first of all, YOU brought up politics into it and used a straw man argument.

Second of all, you just libeled me: "So your conclusion is that racism is the cause of all fat black women."

Where did i *EVER* say that?

You're an idiot and certainly sound like your typical conservative.

So whose fault is it that these people are fat? Is it the racists fault, or their own?

Edit: And if it is their own fault, then what is the point of this study? What are they trying to prove? That stress can cause weight gain? Well, no shit Sherlock. If you cope with stress by eating, then its your own damn prerogative.

Holy hell dude. ....why are you inventing arguments like this? for the simple sake of increasing your e-idiocy levels?
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

WTF? :confused:

how does that statement in any way = blaming someone else? Phokus was merely pointing out research backed evidence that stress is a common factor that leads to weight gain.

racism leading to stress, could therefore lead to weight gain. Makes sense, but the study seems pointless.

by saying it is stress related, you're saying "it's the fact that i'm stressed" rather than "it's the fact that i can't control what i eat and take no responsibility for my own welfare"

yeah, it's a bit of a slippery slope evaluation, but basically it comes down to personal responsibility and self-control, stress or no stress.
 

cheezy321

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Phokus
Well yeah, if racism (real or perceived) increases stress levels, of course it will lead to some people gaining weight. Ever heard of stress eating?

Typical liberal ideology. Its ALWAYS someone elses fault! Personal responsibility be damned!

WTF? :confused:

how does that statement in any way = blaming someone else? Phokus was merely pointing out research backed evidence that stress is a common factor that leads to weight gain.

racism leading to stress, could therefore lead to weight gain. Makes sense, but the study seems pointless.

This is my exact point. It is trying to make a correlation between two things that should not be correlated. Or course stress could lead to weight gain. Everyone should know this. Its a pretty obvious thing. It could be stress from anything, which includes racism.

Racism is perpetrated by someone else. It isn't a magical thing that happens on its own. It is caused by other humans. So when you are blaming 'racism' for weight gain, you are essentially blaming someone else for your own lard ass. Is this not a logical jump? If this is not a logical jump, then how can you logically say racism makes people fat?

This article specifically talks about racism. Stress was mentioned 4 times in the article. Racism was mentioned 11 times (12 if you count the inflammatory headline).

This article would be much less controversial (and get a lot less readers) if they just studied the impact of stress on the body. But that has been done before and already been proven. These scientists just wanted to make a name for themselves. There is absolutely no point to this study.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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Yes now it is whitey fault black women eat at McDonalds at alarming rates! I knew we could pit obesity in the black community on white people. Success at last!