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People who threaten suicide?

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Kelvrick

Lifer
I'm just sitting here at work and my wife sends me a text saying that I80 has been shut down in both directions between Reno and Sacramento because of a high speed pursuit of a wanted felon who went on the run after his bail was rejected.

Reading a brief story on the net, apparently he waved a gun from the car and made a suicide threat. Now, apparently a woman with a baby is in the car with him. I feel for em. Sucks to be in the situation they're in, but say there weren't any passengers. What do the people here think of just bringing out a police sniper and taking the guy out so we can reopen the roads?

Oh yea, my wife is stuck on the other side until this thing is over and I'm sure traffic is going to be great once they finally do open up the roads.

Just taking a little break before I go back to work.
 
well if this was just about people who were going nuts and wanted to commit suicide...id answer different. let this asshole shoot himself and get the crap over with
 
I think it's stupid how we shun suicide. If people wanna die, let em die....so long as they don't take anyone out with them who doesn't want to go.

If they are dying, I see no problem with it. If they kill themselves without taking anyone else with them, same. Now, if it's some d-bag who is in debt like $100k and kills his/herself in order to escape debt and leave family with their debt, i believe we should try as hard as possible to keep their ticker ticking.
 
That police don't arbitrarily take life except when the lives of others are immanently at stake is a burden I can live with.
 
Too bad I'd get in trouble if I went up there with my 308 and cut the losses in government resources and damages to both businesses and civilians in the closure of a major highway.

I think it'd be funny if my wife gets stuck up there for the night though. She called in "sick" this morning to go snowboarding while mocking my 12 hour work days as an accountant.
 
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
That police don't arbitrarily take life except when the lives of others are immanently at stake is a burden I can live with.
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Thats why I said in my original post "but say there weren't any passengers". Happens all the time. These high speed chases. Just take them out already.

EDIT: I don't really liek the fact that an officer has to be in danger by ramming a fleeing car off the road. Perhaps some sort of remote control "ram car" could be developed. I'm sure it'll be quicker and cheaper just to clean up the debris afterwards.
 
Might be better to keep them alive. If you think hard about it, there's no way to go without screwing someone over. Even if people hate you, or you have absolutely no one, and "do it" in a plastic wrapped room, someones going to have live with cleaning your mess up.
 
Originally posted by: Imp
Might be better to keep them alive. If you think hard about it, there's no way to go without screwing someone over. Even if people hate you, or you have absolutely no one, and "do it" in a plastic wrapped room, someones going to have live with cleaning your mess up.
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What if we have suicide booths ala futurama? Or maybe just a local pig "suicide" farm.
 
Originally posted by: MoPHo
I think it's stupid how we shun suicide. If people wanna die, let em die....so long as they don't take anyone out with them who doesn't want to go.
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That's all well and good but there should be a law requiring the method of suicide be clean and authorities should be notified soon after to prevent spoilage. Perhaps there should be a light tax on all anti-depressant medications to cover clean up costs and cremation ... this would be for the overall benefit of society.
 
Originally posted by: Imp
Might be better to keep them alive. If you think hard about it, there's no way to go without screwing someone over. Even if people hate you, or you have absolutely no one, and "do it" in a plastic wrapped room, someones going to have live with cleaning your mess up.
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At the same time, people will be PAID to clean up your mess. Funeral home business would probably be stronger, social security would be hit less and I'm sure someone company would find a way to benefit off of suicide.
 
Originally posted by: MoPHo
I think it's stupid how we shun suicide. If people wanna die, let em die....so long as they don't take anyone out with them who doesn't want to go.

If they are dying, I see no problem with it. If they kill themselves without taking anyone else with them, same. Now, if it's some d-bag who is in debt like $100k and kills his/herself in order to escape debt and leave family with their debt, i believe we should try as hard as possible to keep their ticker ticking.
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Who shuns suicide? Any time someone on the internet threatens it, everyone takes off their human masks and starts cheering them on.
 
Shoot em, its what they want in the first place, might as well expedite their one way ticket to wherever they are going after death 😛 😛
 
People have to deal with suicide one way or another. If a person can't off themselves, they've got no freedom at all.
 
Human life is worth preserving. If people really want to kill themselves, they will. Anything short of that is a cry for help, and we should answer that cry.
 
What makes me shake my head is people who attempt suicide and fail. Not only do they fail at life, but they fail at failing life. That's a serious amount of recursive fail that it makes my brain want to explode.
 
Originally posted by: MoPHo
I think it's stupid how we shun suicide. If people wanna die, let em die....so long as they don't take anyone out with them who doesn't want to go.

If they are dying, I see no problem with it. If they kill themselves without taking anyone else with them, same. Now, if it's some d-bag who is in debt like $100k and kills his/herself in order to escape debt and leave family with their debt, i believe we should try as hard as possible to keep their ticker ticking.
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Except that you're completely ignoring a bunch of very important facts about suicides. In a number of studies done about people who attempted suicide (the biggest group being jumpers who were pulled off the Golden Gate Bridge), they found that the number of people who actually tried to kill themselves again was incredibly low. People who commit suicide don't necessarily really want to die; they are just facing some incredible hardship and see killing themselves as preferable. Once they're back on their feet, they're normal, functioning human beings.

People with suicidal thoughts are many times more likely to actually kill themselves if easy means is within reach (gun, bridge, whatever). The 'harder' it is to kill yourself, the less likely you are to go through with it.

Finally, suicide is an incredibly painful experience for relatives and families. Why should we facilitate something that is rarely truly desired by the victim and causes enormous amounts of pain to people close to the person?
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
What makes me shake my head is people who attempt suicide and fail. Not only do they fail at life, but they fail at failing life. That's a serious amount of recursive fail that it makes my brain want to explode.
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You should kill yourself.
 
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Human life is worth preserving. If people really want to kill themselves, they will. Anything short of that is a cry for help, and we should answer that cry.
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I completely agree LtPage1! 🙁
 
So the bastard finally turns himself in after shutting down a major artery into/out of California for hours. I wonder how many millions he's cost everyone else. I also wonder if we're already footing the bill for his wife and three kids.
 
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
So the bastard finally turns himself in after shutting down a major artery into/out of California for hours. I wonder how many millions he's cost everyone else. I also wonder if we're already footing the bill for his wife and three kids.
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Probably so lol.
 
Wow, it's remarkable how many people on here are all ra-ra about suicide. Seriously? Suicide absolutely fucks up the lives of those people related to the person who does it. Something like a 300% increased rate of suicide among relatives of a person that decides to end their life.

Suicide is one of the strongest antitheses to the idea that life is worth living. Anybody's life is worth living, in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
EDIT: I don't really liek the fact that an officer has to be in danger by ramming a fleeing car off the road. Perhaps some sort of remote control "ram car" could be developed. I'm sure it'll be quicker and cheaper just to clean up the debris afterwards.
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It's called a Predator - they use them all the time in Iraq/Afghanistan. 😉

 
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