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People who run from a traffic stop

kranky

kranky

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Could someone come up with a good way to stop this crap?

Just about every day there is a local story about someone who bolted when police tried to pull them over. Almost inevitably it ends in a crash, people going to the hospital or dead and other motorists' cars damaged.

Today's story was a guy who was being pulled over for an expired license plate. He took off, blasting down an interstate then through local neighborhoods. He crashed and was caught. He said he ran because he didn't have a driver's license.

Doesn't seem like there is sufficient penalty for people who endanger others or damage innocent people's cars.
 
I've been playing a little Need For Speed Hot Pursuit since I picked it up over the Steam summer sale.

Clearly the solution is to give cops Porsches with EMP cannons.
 
how bout dont pull people over for stupid crap.
1-5 miles over? let it go.
loud music? shake yo head and go wit de flow.
tinted windows? big deal, yo.
ect ect ect
 
catapulting spike strip circle, so as soon as the perp stops, the officer can deploy the spike strip ring around the perp's vehicle.
 
People run because they think they will get away. The penalty does not come into the equation.

People who are reasonable and think about the risks generally do not do stupid things like that in the first place.
 
Increasing penality does nothing, unless you make it extreme. I mean, people still murder others, yet don't they know in certain states they can be put to death for it? Start chopping peoples dicks or tits off, then maybe you'd see some results.
 
vshah said:
catapulting spike strip circle, so as soon as the perp stops, the officer can deploy the spike strip ring around the perp's vehicle.
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Similar thought.
Rig it under the LEO front bumper to fire off at about 40mph at 6 inches off the ground. Strip would be able to puncture the back tires without any threat to pedestrians.

Have it on remote control so LEO can trigger if perp's car takes off while LEO is not in his vehicle.
 
BurnItDwn said:
People run because they think they will get away. The penalty does not come into the equation.

People who are reasonable and think about the risks generally do not do stupid things like that in the first place.
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Nothing more to be said than this. Someone who is able to rationalize the penalty isn't going to run in the first place.
 
OnStar-type remote vehicle disabling. Make installation mandatory or your forfeit your license and get your vehicle impounded. When a law enforcement officer pulls someone over, remotely disable their vehicle for the duration of the traffic stop. If that is too big brother for you, limit disabling a vehicle to post-fleeing.

Added benefits: State-wide insurance database. If your insurance lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. If your inspection lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. Vehicle registered to someone without a license? Disable the vehicle unless they can prove it is being driven solely by a licensed individual. It will keep the fucking assholes without insurance that are driving pieces of shit off the road and on the bus. Where they should be. Etc.
 
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I think the number of incidents keeps increasing. Why? I remember stories in the paper where such things were almost front-page news due to how unusual it was. It was nowhere near a daily occurrence. Something has changed.

Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with thinking they can get away. It's because even when they are caught, the additional charges are weak or get plea-bargained away.

Something's not right when a driver without a license thinks it's a good idea to take off and start a police chase instead of taking a ticket for the license.

Two days ago a 14-year-old kid stole a car and was driving erratically on an interstate. A driver seeing it called the police who try to pull the kid over. The kid tries to get away but wrecks the car and is seriously injured. The kid's mother said on TV that the police had no right to chase her kid because he could have simply been joyriding.

There needs to be something done to deter people from thinking "if I run for it I might get away, but if I don't it won't be any worse."

When I was younger, the deterrent was knowing the cop would beat you senseless when he did catch you, but not if you just pulled over.
 
Safeway said:
OnStar-type remote vehicle disabling. Make installation mandatory or your forfeit your license and get your vehicle impounded. When a law enforcement officer pulls someone over, remotely disable their vehicle for the duration of the traffic stop. If that is too big brother for you, limit disabling a vehicle to post-fleeing.

Added benefits: State-wide insurance database. If your insurance lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. If your inspection lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. Vehicle registered to someone without a license? Disable the vehicle unless they can prove it is being driven solely by a licensed individual. It will keep the fucking assholes without insurance that are driving pieces of shit off the road and on the bus. Where they should be. Etc.
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As much as I hate the whole "big government" thing behind this post, this is a pretty solid idea. But this is coming from a guy who drives safely, and insures and registers his vehicles.
 
kranky said:
Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with thinking they can get away. It's because even when they are caught, the additional charges are weak or get plea-bargained away.

Something's not right when a driver without a license thinks it's a good idea to take off and start a police chase instead of taking a ticket for the license.
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As others have said, people don't consider the punishment. Weak or stiff, punishment wouldn't deter most fleers.

You hit the correct point in the second thought. It is all about ignorance. The fleers were likely brought up by ignorant parents and are ignorant themselves. Just like the disabled guy that was cussing out law enforcement officers. He is ignorant.

The worst part? Ignorant and plain stupid people make up the bulk of the population.
 
Saint Nick said:
As much as I hate the whole "big government" thing behind this post, this is a pretty solid idea. But this is coming from a guy who drives safely, and insures and registers his vehicles.
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I agree that this solution is a bit "big government," but I think it is the best option. I'd vote in favor.

On the flip side, I do NOT think that insurance companies should be allowed to track policy holders and adjust their rates according to driving habits, average speed, and similar factors.

Allowing government law enforcement to make use of tracking and remote disabling devices is one thing. Allowing a private corporation to do the same in order to pad their bottom line is too far.
 
Safeway said:
OnStar-type remote vehicle disabling. Make installation mandatory or your forfeit your license and get your vehicle impounded. When a law enforcement officer pulls someone over, remotely disable their vehicle for the duration of the traffic stop. If that is too big brother for you, limit disabling a vehicle to post-fleeing.

Added benefits: State-wide insurance database. If your insurance lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. If your inspection lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. Vehicle registered to someone without a license? Disable the vehicle unless they can prove it is being driven solely by a licensed individual. It will keep the fucking assholes without insurance that are driving pieces of shit off the road and on the bus. Where they should be. Etc.
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Safeway said:
OnStar-type remote vehicle disabling. Make installation mandatory or your forfeit your license and get your vehicle impounded. When a law enforcement officer pulls someone over, remotely disable their vehicle for the duration of the traffic stop. If that is too big brother for you, limit disabling a vehicle to post-fleeing.

Added benefits: State-wide insurance database. If your insurance lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. If your inspection lapses, your vehicle is disabled after a short grace period. Vehicle registered to someone without a license? Disable the vehicle unless they can prove it is being driven solely by a licensed individual. It will keep the fucking assholes without insurance that are driving pieces of shit off the road and on the bus. Where they should be. Etc.
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brilliant. i would be all for this.
 
I'd run too. It's either guaranteed shot accidentally in the back or take your chances and try to get the hell out of there.
 
SandEagle said:
loud music? shake yo head and go wit de flow.
tinted windows? big deal, yo.
ect ect ect
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figures you would hit right on 2 of my biggest pet peeves; i show more mercy with speeders than i do the dopes with tinted windows / blue and yellow headlights / and loud music.
 
One thing none of you guys have considered: They only report when the bad guy gets caught. The guys who get away rarely make the news.

Here in Canada police pursuits are often unsuccessful because police policy is to give up the chase most of the time. These chases never, ever make the news.

But when the perp runs and crashes, gets caught, or hurts someone it is front page news.
 
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