People who experience stutters, in GTA V or any other games

[flexy]

Check here or on any other forum like on the Geforce forum.

Find a new post about people complaining about stutters?

I guarantee you, the person who is posting about stutter problems has 8GB of system memory. EACH.AND.EVERY.TIME.

What we see here is that people play games at settings where they max out their video memory (in case of GTX 970 3.2Gb-3.5GB) and the system starts to swap out and creates a 8GB pagefile. (This is known that it happens). What happens next when the system needs to access whatever data on this pagefile while you game...well it doesn't need rocket science.

It happens NOT with 16GB of system memory.

Do me a favor and check GForce forums or any other forums and check the specs of whoever has stutter problems. It's so obvious!

Get another 8GB of system memory and I guarantee you your stutters are gone.

And/Or for god's sake, use reasonable settings depending on how much video memory your card has.

 

[computergod]

ya ive noticed that gta 5 can use up to 10 gigs of ram

 

[aaksheytalwar]

High time people move to 16-32 gig systems.

 

[soccerballtux]

ya ive noticed that gta 5 can use up to 10 gigs of ram

wow

 

[soccerballtux]

should I get this game? I want to play but $60....I am so tempted...I only have 7850 but OC'd to 1150....should I get this game?

 

[aaksheytalwar]

With your CPU and GPU don't expect better than 1080p low tops.

 

[Deders]

I've got 8GB of ram and GTAV is silky smooth, even though It's set to use 3.6+ GB of my 3GB Vram (Afterburner reports it doesn't go above 3GB). Watchdogs was much smoother on my system than most people reported too.

Having my page file on an SSD might help this.

 

[flexy]

Having my page file on an SSD might help this.

True, but it's still better when this memory is allocated in system memory. I am wanting to upgrade to another 8GB since I saw how it otherwise creates a pagefile, say if you run the OC Scanner 3GB test. I think it just makes sense with a card like the 970 or 980, otherwise I am not even remotely maxing out my 8GB in any other scenario, but then more memory of course never hurts.

 

[kasakka]

I've got both, GTX 970 SLI and 8 GB RAM. I do have 16 GB coming in so I'll see if that changes anything. Currently I see I have about 10 GB pagefile and about 7-7.5 GB RAM in use in some new games.

However, I'm not really experiencing any stutters and neither has the 970 VRAM issue been an actual issue in anything except Shadow of Mordor (and even that was improved with the 350.12 drivers). I do have games and pagefile on my fastest SSD though.

In GTA V I'm only getting the occasional stutter or even few second lock that many others are getting (seems to be more of a game bug than issue with settings/hardware) and I run it at near max in 1440p.

 

[sxr7171]

I have 16GB and both Watch Dogs and AC Unity can stutter. Everything on 840EVO.

 

[Techhog]

I finally have something to justify my memory upgrade last year!

 

[Shmee]

Could any of this be related to memory leaks?

 

[skipsneeky2]

Could any of this be related to memory leaks?

Quite possible.

I will see if adding anything more then 4gb to my pagefile helps.I got 8gb of memory.Without one even with high settings on my 970 my game pretty much crashes within a minute.

Rivatune OSD claims well under 3.5gb with those settings,and even the very high ones/ultra max settings+4x msaa i use normally.My resolution is 768p which my t.v supports,but even 8x msaa pretty much goes over 3.5gb at least in the menu but for some reason OSD reports under 3.4gb....fps tanks like hell too when i enable it.

 

[hawtdawg]

The stutter i experienced in GTA V was fixed by switching from raw mouse input to directinput. i realized it was mouse related when i plugged in my controller and motion was silky smooth.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It wasnt delayed for fun in the first place.

 

[Eric1987]

I get major stutter and I have 16gb with my 2x290x setup

 

[VirtualLarry]

High time people move to 16-32 gig systems.

Shame MS limited Win7 64-bit to 16GB of RAM. It's not like there was any good hardware reason to, either. It was completely arbitrary.

Edit: Now that I'm upgrading from H81 to Z97 mobos, with four DIMM slots... I was planning on upgrading to 4x4GB DDR3-1600. Should I go to 4x8GB (32GB) and put on Win7 Pro 64-bit? I don't like Win 8/8.1. Still a bit undecided about Win10.

Edit: I meant to indicate "HP" above, when mentioning Win7 64-bit. Sorry for the omission.

 

[2is]

Shame MS limited Win7 64-bit to 16GB of RAM. It's not like there was any good hardware reason to, either. It was completely arbitrary.

Edit: Now that I'm upgrading from H81 to Z97 mobos, with four DIMM slots... I was planning on upgrading to 4x4GB DDR3-1600. Should I go to 4x8GB (32GB) and put on Win7 Pro 64-bit? I don't like Win 8/8.1. Still a bit undecided about Win10.

This is only true for the "home" versions. Pro, Ultimate and Enterprise support 192GB

 

[flexy]

I will see if adding anything more then 4gb to my pagefile helps.

I am oldschool and still had in my mind that setting a fixed PF with a fixed size is "the best thing".

This is NOT the case anymore and especially not if you have your OS and PF on a SSD.

The best is indeed let Window automatically manage the PF and make sure there is plenty of space left in case your pagefile wants to grow over 8GB.

(Especially with a SSD since I assume that a fixed PF would then always mean writing to the same location which is less than optimal for a SSD, but I might be wrong there). So or so, let system manage your pagefile. Better even, make sure you have 16GB+ system ram and have it avoid creating the pagefile altogether)

 

[escrow4]

8GB RAM is the minimum now for a half decent all rounder desktop, if not 16GB if you can spring it. 4GB RAM are basic laptops and tablets. Same for gaming. I've clocked GTA V hovering around 4GB RAM on my 16GB 8.1 gaming box. RAM usage in total is ~5.5GB at times (1.5GB or a bit less for Windows). And V recommends 8GB RAM (so does Witcher III). 2GB RAM is obsolete now.

VirtualLarry, max out what you can afford/support. RAM is set it and forget it. No point buying a little now and then "upgrading". Get a slab and that is it.

 

[mohit9206]

16gb ram is overkill for gaming. 16gb ram will become necessary in 2020.So we are fine for 5 more years. If GTA V is having stuttering problems either something is wrong with your hardware or its a poor port altogether.

 

[BSim500]

It happens NOT with 16GB of system memory. Get another 8GB of system memory and I guarantee you your stutters are gone.

Many games have non-performance related stutter though. Rememeber Bioshock Infinite & DXHR? Both had chronic stutter (even on i7 + 16GB rigs) until they were patched out due to the rather poor way the games engines were initially coded to "stream" data in almost like an old console reading "live" off an optical disc. Most 32-bit games can't use more than 2GB RAM, some stutter, some don't. 64-bit WatchDogs stutter was cured for a lot of people simply by disabling the page file altogether (even with only 8GB RAM). Multiple GPU related micro-stutter isn't cured by adding more RAM. I don't think there is a simple "Buy 16GB RAM and all your stutter will vanish" 'one size fits all magic solution' as a lot depends on how well / badly the game is coded / ported in general.

And/Or for god's sake, use reasonable settings depending on how much video memory your card has.

^ I agree with this though!

 

[VirtualLarry]

8GB RAM is the minimum now for a half decent all rounder desktop,

VirtualLarry, max out what you can afford/support. RAM is set it and forget it. No point buying a little now and then "upgrading". Get a slab and that is it.

I agree with your first statement. I currently have 2x4GB DDR3-1600 in both of my G3258 rigs, which have H81 boards with two DIMM slots. I bought some Z97 + G3258 combo deals for $100 ea, which have four DIMM slots.

The biggest question is, if I should go with an addition 2x4GB, to max out at 4x4GB, which is also the max of Win7 HP 64-bit that I currently have installed, or whether it would be worth it to spend the extra for 4x8GB, and Win7 Pro 64-bit. Especially considering how close we are to mainstream DDR4 and Win10.

 

[mohit9206]

I agree with your first statement. I currently have 2x4GB DDR3-1600 in both of my G3258 rigs, which have H81 boards with two DIMM slots. I bought some Z97 + G3258 combo deals for $100 ea, which have four DIMM slots.

The biggest question is, if I should go with an addition 2x4GB, to max out at 4x4GB, which is also the max of Win7 HP 64-bit that I currently have installed, or whether it would be worth it to spend the extra for 4x8GB, and Win7 Pro 64-bit. Especially considering how close we are to mainstream DDR4 and Win10.

G3258+Z77 for $100? Why do only Americans get such great deals?
No fair

 

[skipsneeky2]

Better even, make sure you have 16GB+ system ram and have it avoid creating the pagefile altogether)

Don't feel like selling off my 2x4gb sticks for 2x8gb sticks.Motherboards got 2 slots,budget Asrock motherboard.

I think there is memory leaks,my usage peaks at 7gb despite their 8gb recommendation.Many motherboards only have 2 slots most likely with 8gb like me so the higher peaks i think may be short lived.

Memory usage for me with just MSI AB and Chrome open peaks at 1.4gb.Close off Chrome and i sit at 1.2gb so why Steam and GTA5 use well over 5gb is beyond me.