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Siva

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

Yeah, but one thing that I think would be nice is if the dietary information was more prominantly displayed. If you go into a busy McDonald's during dinner time its quite difficult to find exactly how unhealthy your meal is going to be.

Still common sense says a hamburger with no cheese or a salad is best. Everyone is able to monitor what they eat and be responsible for their own health to some extent no matter what restaurant they dine at.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

Yeah, but one thing that I think would be nice is if the dietary information was more prominantly displayed. If you go into a busy McDonald's during dinner time its quite difficult to find exactly how unhealthy your meal is going to be.

Still common sense says a hamburger with no cheese or a salad is best. Everyone is able to monitor what they eat and be responsible for their own health to some extent no matter what restaurant they dine at.

The last one we ate in at had it clearly printed on their tray liner. The chicken strips are the most unhealthy. I believe the 5 piece came in around 1300 calories.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

And the nation continues to get fatter and fatter, taxing my wallet to pay for the fat, stupid people who cannot decide.

The nation is getting fatter because of lifestyle changes in the last 20 years. Sedentary lifestyles brought on by the growth in popularity of cable/sat TV, home video games and the Internet. And there is one thing to do when lying or sitting around all day: MUNCH

In MAIN increase in calories (average 300 calories increase pp in the last 20 years) has NOT been fat or meat, but GRAINS. What are munchies? GRAINS.

Stop blaming food and food sellers for simply marketing what the consumer wants and start blaming the individual for not controlling themselves.
 

Siva

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

Yeah, but one thing that I think would be nice is if the dietary information was more prominantly displayed. If you go into a busy McDonald's during dinner time its quite difficult to find exactly how unhealthy your meal is going to be.

Still common sense says a hamburger with no cheese or a salad is best. Everyone is able to monitor what they eat and be responsible for their own health to some extent no matter what restaurant they dine at.

The last one we ate in at had it clearly printed on their tray liner. The chicken strips are the most unhealthy. I believe the 5 piece came in around 1300 calories.

The tray liner comes after you get your food :p

BTW that's gross, 1300 calories is like half a days worth of food in five little strips. I don't blame McDonald's for making people fat, but I still think their food is just too disgusting.

Then again, sometimes I can't help but enjoy a Big Mac (maybe once a year).
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

Yeah, but one thing that I think would be nice is if the dietary information was more prominantly displayed. If you go into a busy McDonald's during dinner time its quite difficult to find exactly how unhealthy your meal is going to be.

Still common sense says a hamburger with no cheese or a salad is best. Everyone is able to monitor what they eat and be responsible for their own health to some extent no matter what restaurant they dine at.

The last one we ate in at had it clearly printed on their tray liner. The chicken strips are the most unhealthy. I believe the 5 piece came in around 1300 calories.

The tray liner comes after you get your food :p

The tray liners are right there on the counter. The nutritional info is posted on the wall, and in little pamphlets in plastic holders.

It's people like this that make manufacturers have to post the most inane warnings on everything.
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

And the nation continues to get fatter and fatter, taxing my wallet to pay for the fat, stupid people who cannot decide.

The nation is getting fatter because of lifestyle changes in the last 20 years. Sedentary lifestyles brought on by the growth in popularity of cable/sat TV, home video games and the Internet. And there is one thing to do when lying or sitting around all day: MUNCH

In MAIN increase in calories (average 300 calories increase pp in the last 20 years) has NOT been fat or meat, but GRAINS. What are munchies? GRAINS.

Stop blaming food and food sellers for simply marketing what the consumer wants and start blaming the individual for not controlling themselves.

You dont think that corporations capitalize on the weak and stupid by making the portion sizes enough to feed three people?
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Amused
Normal hamburgers are not unhealthy, but the way Mcdonalds serves them I cannot classify them as a natural product like you would get at home.

Really? Why not? (with proof, mind you)

something is causing puberty to start earlier and earlier. and i doubt it is for entirely healthy reasons. not to say that mcdonald's burgers are the cause, or that mcdonald's burgers are any less healthy than the average burger at home, which uses the same mass produced style of beef, but there is something somewhere and burying your head in the sand probably isn't healthy. it's like saying that evolution or gravity don't exist because we don't know the mechanism for them.
 

DaShen

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They may have lost weight but their cholesterol, triglyceride, and fat count is probably up the roof.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Normal hamburgers are not unhealthy, but the way Mcdonalds serves them I cannot classify them as a natural product like you would get at home.

Really? Why not? (with proof, mind you)

something is causing puberty to start earlier and earlier. and i doubt it is for entirely healthy reasons. not to say that mcdonald's burgers are the cause, or that mcdonald's burgers are any less healthy than the average burger at home, which uses the same mass produced style of beef, but there is something somewhere and burying your head in the sand probably isn't healthy. it's like saying that evolution or gravity don't exist because we don't know the mechanism for them.

His claim is that mcDonalds beef is more unhealthy than store bought beef.

Your post addresses that not at all.
 

40Hands

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Yes yes amused we all know about your "I love all corporations because they make money" attitude. Oh and how anyone who dislikes any company for any reason is just hating because its the cool thing to do. If anyone gives reasons like *gasp* observations/opinions you will fight them tooth and nail. Maybe you will stop fluffing companies when you no longer get off to it.

*pulls up chair for the fireworks*
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

And the nation continues to get fatter and fatter, taxing my wallet to pay for the fat, stupid people who cannot decide.

The nation is getting fatter because of lifestyle changes in the last 20 years. Sedentary lifestyles brought on by the growth in popularity of cable/sat TV, home video games and the Internet. And there is one thing to do when lying or sitting around all day: MUNCH

In MAIN increase in calories (average 300 calories increase pp in the last 20 years) has NOT been fat or meat, but GRAINS. What are munchies? GRAINS.

Stop blaming food and food sellers for simply marketing what the consumer wants and start blaming the individual for not controlling themselves.

You dont think that corporations capitalize on the weak and stupid by making the portion sizes enough to feed three people?

Since when is giving the people what they want "capitalizing?"

Since when is it your job to protect the "weak?"

Who decides who are the "weak?"

When you spout nonsense like that, don't you feel the least bit elitist?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: BroeBo
Yes yes amused we all know about your "I love all corporations because they make money" attitude. Oh and how anyone who dislikes any company for any reason is just hating because its the cool thing to do. If anyone gives reasons like *gasp* observations/opinions you will fight them tooth and nail. Maybe you will stop fluffing companies when you no longer get off to it.

*pulls up chair for the fireworks*

Wow... just... wow.
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Normal hamburgers are not unhealthy, but the way Mcdonalds serves them I cannot classify them as a natural product like you would get at home.

Really? Why not? (with proof, mind you)

something is causing puberty to start earlier and earlier. and i doubt it is for entirely healthy reasons. not to say that mcdonald's burgers are the cause, or that mcdonald's burgers are any less healthy than the average burger at home, which uses the same mass produced style of beef, but there is something somewhere and burying your head in the sand probably isn't healthy. it's like saying that evolution or gravity don't exist because we don't know the mechanism for them.

His claim is that mcDonalds beef is more unhealthy than store bought beef.

Your post addresses that not at all.

I said that a hamburger is not as healthy.

Are you telling me that the Double quarter punder with cheese is the same as what I grill at home with low fat hamburger meat, and 2% cheese?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

One or two? They have over a dozen healthy items. And the so called "unhealthy" items are, in reality, healthy in moderation.

Thats kind of like saying that if you just eat the tiniest amount of rat poison, it is healthy. Of course it wont kill you but is it healthy?

Beef in moderation is NOT unhealthy. Nor is cheese, or bread.

Nice try, but a bullsh!t analogy.

Normal hamburgers are not unhealthy, but the way Mcdonalds serves them I cannot classify them as a natural product like you would get at home.

Really? Why not? (with proof, mind you)

He most likely does not know what he's talking about. At many fast food places, they either use a normal grill (similar to cooking a burger in a frying pan), or a clam-shell grill. They are then put into their holding stations, drained of their fat/grease, and then used for sandwiches.

I fail to see how that is much more unhealthier than cooking a burger on a grill or in the oven.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Normal hamburgers are not unhealthy, but the way Mcdonalds serves them I cannot classify them as a natural product like you would get at home.

Really? Why not? (with proof, mind you)

something is causing puberty to start earlier and earlier. and i doubt it is for entirely healthy reasons. not to say that mcdonald's burgers are the cause, or that mcdonald's burgers are any less healthy than the average burger at home, which uses the same mass produced style of beef, but there is something somewhere and burying your head in the sand probably isn't healthy. it's like saying that evolution or gravity don't exist because we don't know the mechanism for them.

His claim is that mcDonalds beef is more unhealthy than store bought beef.

Your post addresses that not at all.

I said that a hamburger is not as healthy.

Are you telling me that the Double quarter punder with cheese is the same as what I grill at home with low fat hamburger meat, and 2% cheese?

Most people don't grill with low fat hamburger meat and 2% cheese. Most people grill with 100% ground beef, and American cheese. Which is the same stuff McDonalds/Wendys/BK uses.
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

And the nation continues to get fatter and fatter, taxing my wallet to pay for the fat, stupid people who cannot decide.

The nation is getting fatter because of lifestyle changes in the last 20 years. Sedentary lifestyles brought on by the growth in popularity of cable/sat TV, home video games and the Internet. And there is one thing to do when lying or sitting around all day: MUNCH

In MAIN increase in calories (average 300 calories increase pp in the last 20 years) has NOT been fat or meat, but GRAINS. What are munchies? GRAINS.

Stop blaming food and food sellers for simply marketing what the consumer wants and start blaming the individual for not controlling themselves.

You dont think that corporations capitalize on the weak and stupid by making the portion sizes enough to feed three people?

Since when is giving the people what they want "capitalizing?"

Since when is it your job to protect the "weak?"

Who decides who are the "weak?"

When you spout nonsense like that, don't you feel the least bit elitist?

I am saying that as the country drives itself into a pit of obesity, someone needs to have a level head and be altruistic. The elitest sides with the corp and says, we will kill you off and still fill our pockets because you reproduce.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Amused
Normal hamburgers are not unhealthy, but the way Mcdonalds serves them I cannot classify them as a natural product like you would get at home.

Really? Why not? (with proof, mind you)

something is causing puberty to start earlier and earlier. and i doubt it is for entirely healthy reasons. not to say that mcdonald's burgers are the cause, or that mcdonald's burgers are any less healthy than the average burger at home, which uses the same mass produced style of beef, but there is something somewhere and burying your head in the sand probably isn't healthy. it's like saying that evolution or gravity don't exist because we don't know the mechanism for them.

His claim is that mcDonalds beef is more unhealthy than store bought beef.

Your post addresses that not at all.

I said that a hamburger is not as healthy.

Are you telling me that the Double quarter punder with cheese is the same as what I grill at home with low fat hamburger meat, and 2% cheese?

The best burgers are not made from low fat beef. Nor are the best steaks. The best flavor from beef comes from fat marbling.

You can get away with low fat hamburger in casseroles, but not in burgers. Low fat hambuger makes for a dry, tasteless burger.
 

nakedfrog

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Heh, you've gotta be loving this, Amused... more ammo for the next time someone posts "OMG! Super-size me proved that McDonald's is responsible for 132% of obesity in America!"
I'm tempted to search for Foie Gras and see how many occurences aren't from you :p
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Yes yes amused we all know about your "I love all corporations because they make money" attitude. Oh and how anyone who dislikes any company for any reason is just hating because its the cool thing to do. If anyone gives reasons like *gasp* observations/opinions you will fight them tooth and nail. Maybe you will stop fluffing companies when you no longer get off to it.

*pulls up chair for the fireworks*

Wow... just... wow.

Shocked that I pegged you that badly eh? It's ok man. There is help for your type.
 

Siva

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

Yeah, but one thing that I think would be nice is if the dietary information was more prominantly displayed. If you go into a busy McDonald's during dinner time its quite difficult to find exactly how unhealthy your meal is going to be.

Still common sense says a hamburger with no cheese or a salad is best. Everyone is able to monitor what they eat and be responsible for their own health to some extent no matter what restaurant they dine at.

The last one we ate in at had it clearly printed on their tray liner. The chicken strips are the most unhealthy. I believe the 5 piece came in around 1300 calories.

The tray liner comes after you get your food :p

The tray liners are right there on the counter. The nutritional info is posted on the wall, and in little pamphlets in plastic holders.

It's people like this that make manufacturers have to post the most inane warnings on everything.

Relax, no need to bite my head off. My local McDonald's is ALWAYS out of those wall pamphlets, and i don't like standing at that freaking chart right next to the bathroom when its dinner time and people are running in and out. I didn't know about the tray liners being available, I'd never noticed that. Nor did I know the information was available on tray liners, is that new?

Anyway, I don't think its a big deal to ask McDonald's to make that information easy to access (which I guess they are doing with the tray liners). People NEED to become better at watching what they eat, and at a place like McDonald's where the food is generally very unhealthy its probably a lot more important to know the nutritional value of something than when eating at home. I'd much rather people be forced to educate themselves than place any sort of restrictions on a business that's doing nothing more than giving people what they want.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Siva
Originally posted by: MattCo
Basically what she did is pick the one or two healthy items from their menu of a 100 items and lost weight. I guess that proves that McDonalds is healthy after all.

-MC

It proves that people are overweight because of personal responsibility, not because of fast food.

I agree one hundred percent, but the fact that McDonalds continues to capialize on it by increasing portion sizes and catering to impressionible(sp) children to "hook" them into the lifestyle is a travesty.

Oh GAWD! The only travesty are nanny-staters like yourself who absolve everyone of personal responsibility by blaming guns for crime and food and food sellers for obesity.

And the nation continues to get fatter and fatter, taxing my wallet to pay for the fat, stupid people who cannot decide.

The nation is getting fatter because of lifestyle changes in the last 20 years. Sedentary lifestyles brought on by the growth in popularity of cable/sat TV, home video games and the Internet. And there is one thing to do when lying or sitting around all day: MUNCH

In MAIN increase in calories (average 300 calories increase pp in the last 20 years) has NOT been fat or meat, but GRAINS. What are munchies? GRAINS.

Stop blaming food and food sellers for simply marketing what the consumer wants and start blaming the individual for not controlling themselves.

You dont think that corporations capitalize on the weak and stupid by making the portion sizes enough to feed three people?

Since when is giving the people what they want "capitalizing?"

Since when is it your job to protect the "weak?"

Who decides who are the "weak?"

When you spout nonsense like that, don't you feel the least bit elitist?

I am saying that as the country drives itself into a pit of obesity, someone needs to have a level head and be altruistic. The elitest sides with the corp and says, we will kill you off and still fill our pockets because you reproduce.

Is this foil beenie day, or what?

What corporation out there is INTENTIONALLY killing people?

The elitist is the one feeling they have the right, nay, duty to force others to do their will. Even if it is "for their own good."

Want to stop obesity? Stop excusing people by blaming food or food sellers. Blame the individuals themselves.
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: Amused

Want to stop obesity? Stop excusing people by blaming food or food sellers. Blame the individuals themselves.


Ok, its their fault... wait they are still dying and medical insurance costs are rising. That didn't help.

Oh yeah, and fst food and tobacco companies are not intentionally killing people, they are just giving people what they desire. Wait... people still dying.

-MC
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Who gives a sh!t about what you can do at McDonalds...while interesting that she lost weight and others did to to prove a point

McD's is still unhelathy as hell for you

I mean come ON PPL...its common sence that you need to care about what you eat AND EXERCISE

not to mention that McD's "healthy" salads have more than 18gs of fat b4 the dressing

You're trying to introduce logic into a thread where people want to feel good about putting garbage into their bodies.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused

Want to stop obesity? Stop excusing people by blaming food or food sellers. Blame the individuals themselves.


Ok, its their fault... wait they are still dying and medical insurance costs are rising. That didn't help.

Oh yeah, and fst food and tobacco companies are not intentionally killing people, they are just giving people what they desire. Wait... people still dying.

-MC

Do you blame auto manufacturers for the deaths of people who speed?
 

MattCo

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: MattCo
Originally posted by: Amused

Want to stop obesity? Stop excusing people by blaming food or food sellers. Blame the individuals themselves.


Ok, its their fault... wait they are still dying and medical insurance costs are rising. That didn't help.

Oh yeah, and fst food and tobacco companies are not intentionally killing people, they are just giving people what they desire. Wait... people still dying.

-MC

Do you blame auto manufacturers for the deaths of people who speed?


Nope, because the people who speed are ignoring posted speed limits set by local governments (ie. breaking the law)