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people dont know about RAM!

nick1985

nick1985

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why do so many people have a 266 FSB athlona nd then buy 333 mhz RAM? there is NO performance increase in pc2100 - pc 2500 AT ALL if your FSB is 266. your ram is only as fast as your FSB. so for optimal settings, your memory speed should match your FSB of your processor. i see to many idiots with an athlon 2000 and pc 3200. waht a waste. pc2100 is just as good if not better for that processor. for an athlon 2800 333 FSB, pc2700 is optimal. why do people waste their money???
 
I tried to explain that same point to someone here last week and was told I didn't know what I was talking about and I should stay out of the thread........
 
why do so many people have a 266 FSB athlona nd then buy 333 mhz RAM?
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Lots of reasons, such as overclocking headroom and future proofing (when they upgrade to a 333 MHz FSB system in the future they won't be held back by slow memory).
 
well thats one other person that has a brain. it makes me mad to see someone with an athlin 2100 or somthin and have flashy corsair pc-3200. pc 2100 is BETTER, yes better!, for your system. the memory speed mathes the FSB of your processor! hard to learn i know...
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
well thats one other person that has a brain. it makes me mad to see someone with an athlin 2100 or somthin and have flashy corsair pc-3200. pc 2100 is BETTER, yes better!, for your system. the memory speed mathes the FSB of your processor! hard to learn i know...
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Well thats not true... PC2100 is NOT better, the PC3200 will run at PC2100 speeds... but it will give more headroom in the future, like 333Mhz Bus Athlons. And for overclocking... I have PC3200 but its because I overclock. And even with a 266FSB PC2700 does offer a performance advantage... its small.. but its there... usually less then 2%.
 
I'm currently using Geil PC3200 with my XP1700+ on my nforce2, but I got it for future since I plan to upgrade to a Barton (hopefully, my A7N8X will support it.. 😉). To the regular joe, I guess PC3500 sounds more impressive compared to PC2100.. hehe..
 
Actually 333MHz DDR memory is PC2700.

Can also be cheaper. Mushkin 2.5-3-3 PC2700 is 79 dollars (basic, no heatspreader) and can probably run at 266MHz 2-2-2 timings. PC2100 2-2-2 is 99 dollars.

Of course, you probably mean why do they USE memory at 333MHz.

A) frontside bus isn't the only thing that uses the memory bandwidth. AGP does, and so does a UDMA-enabled drive controller.
B) these are the same people that will buy a brand new processor for 500 dollars to get an extra couple of hundred MHz for a 2% performance increase, or put hundreds of dollars worth of cooling equipment into their system (not to mention lapping processors and other chips) in order to get a better overclock.
C) a slight performance increase for a slight cost increase, plus memory that will be more useful in upgrades later on.
D) 333 is higher than 266.
E) why not?


Don66: not only does he have PC2700, but it's on a dual-channel motherboard. Even if he's running it at 266, he's still getting more bandwidth than the FSB needs (and if not running it in dual-channel mode, why bother buying such an expensive board).
 
Originally posted by: Don66
Just one question..Why does that bother you?
I see you have PC2700 ddr and not pc2100.
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Perhaps he bought the PC2700 figuring it would be faster, found out its not, and now he's mad that he got "jipped" so he's ranting about "other people" who buy RAM that's faster than their system needs. 😉
 
I guess you just answered your own question with the reason you got PC2700 in the first place - for future upgradibility. Also, as mentioned by others, overclockability and faster memory timings at rated speed are also reasons to get higher rated memory. PC2100 isn't "better", since PC2700, PC3200 and PC3500 will also run at PC2100 speeds if you let them.
 
who said pc-2700 isnt 333 mhz?
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Original post:

why do so many people have a 266 FSB athlona nd then buy 333 mhz RAM? there is NO performance increase in pc2100 - pc 2500...
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Second post:

it should not read "pc-2500" it should say pc 3500, everybody makes mistakes
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Answer: you did.

i have pc 2700 because i am gettin a 2600 in a couple a weeks.
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You're going to be running it in dual-channel mode too, aren't you? That motherboard cost a lot to get that dual-channel. You spent money on what you thought would be a good performance improvement. Let others spend money on improvement as well, however slight it may be, it's obviously a good value to them. Don't get your panties in a bunch over someone else wanting to get the best performance they could.

Challenger: I can't find a thread where you explained this to anyone in the current messages (only searching by thread title of course, and I can only guess at what the title might have been.
 
i for one have 2700 for the 333 mhz to match my 2600 FSB speed i am getting. how many people that have pc-2700 actually have a mobo that can handle the new athlons??? not many....
 
Yeah, this whole PC2100, PC2700, PC3200, etc. thing has gotten a lot of wannabe enthusiasts confused. They think that they'll get a huge performance increase by moving from PC2100 to PC3200 and not changing anything else.

But it could be worse. I was at a party the other night, and this kid had gotten a new compuetr for Christmas. The salesman had convinced his father, who had convinced the kid, that having DDR ram effectively doubled the amount of memory you had. He had 256MB, but kept telling his friend that it was the same as 512. Also humorously, the amount of memory was repeatedly referred to as "256k." 😉 Oh well, we all have to start somewhere.
 
Originally posted by: Lint21
Yeah, this whole PC2100, PC2700, PC3200, etc. thing has gotten a lot of wannabe enthusiasts confused. They think that they'll get a huge performance increase by moving from PC2100 to PC3200 and not changing anything else.

But it could be worse. I was at a party the other night, and this kid had gotten a new compuetr for Christmas. The salesman had convinced his father, who had convinced the kid, that having DDR ram effectively doubled the amount of memory you had. He had 256MB, but kept telling his friend that it was the same as 512. Also humorously, the amount of memory was repeatedly referred to as "256k." 😉 Oh well, we all have to start somewhere.
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Hahaha, now that's funny 😉
 
PC2100 to PC2700 to PC3200 is just few bucks difference,
few bucks sounds nothing to many people,
waste few bucks now can re-use the memory in the future 400 fsb system,
why not?
 
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