Pentium E2140 - the new e4300

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: CrazyHorse
I have not run superpi yet i will do after some other benchmarks

Here is my System so far:

ABiT AB9 QuadGT
E2160 under Coolermaster Mars Heatsink
Right now 2gb PC2-6400 OCZ Vista @ 1:1 CL 4 4 4 10 2.1V
Radeon X1800 XT 512mb
2 x 200gb Maxtor SATA II

right now i m at 3.4ghz with 1.4650 Voltage seems to be stable though I will do a SuperPi in a little while.

Only difference between the E6600 and this one is that it takes longer to convert avi > mpeg but only a little bid. Instead off 21.xxx 3DMark 03 i had 20.980 so i lost a few benchmarks there but its really nothing to complain about. Since this CPU only did cost me $85 bucks at eWiz.


18.375s on SuperPi 1M @ 3.4ghz

what's the temps look like with that voltage? Out of curiosity. Is that actual voltage after vdroop or what you have in bios?

 

[CrazyHorse]

right now with open case i get 65 degrees Celsius under load doing Orthos.


But you have to see i have a crap case right now open with no AC going in the house so we have temp of 81 - 82 in here.


Cache is not that much important as many people think. Yeah sure it makes a difference but read this here http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium-e2160_4.html its not as big as a difference as i have thought at first.


Speaking about Super Pi if i give it more memomry bandwith i gain some speed on it. Used the 4:5 running memory on 945mhz and i got 17.925 s

 

[lopri]

I just received my E2140. I'm more excited than when I received a Q6600, in the anticipation of 100% OC that I've dreamed of.

 

[golem]

Originally posted by: lopri
I just received my E2140. I'm more excited than when I received a Q6600, in the anticipation of 100% OC that I've dreamed of.

The Pentium E sound like really fun chips.

 

[DasSmoof]

So would it be worth it to get this or the E4300? I'm in the market for a new gaming PC and I want to OC and have something for reasonably cheap that performs well. After an OC would the E2140 be reasonable enough in the performance category for games?
Or would it be better to stick with the tried at true e4300?

 

[mazeroth]

Originally posted by: DasSmoof
So would it be worth it to get this or the E4300? I'm in the market for a new gaming PC and I want to OC and have something for reasonably cheap that performs well. After an OC would the E2140 be reasonable enough in the performance category for games?
Or would it be better to stick with the tried at true e4300?

I just purchased an E4300 last week and after seeing this thread I'm in the same boat as you. However, the E2160 OEM is $85, which is $30 less than the E4300 Retail. Tack on another $10-$15 for a HSF comparable to the Intel and you're at a savings of roughly $15-$20. Another thing is you lose the retail version's longer warranty and you have a lesser chip. For a main rig I'd probably go with the E4300 but if you're building a cheaper PC (I am, for a HTPC) it would be hard to argue the E2160. Either way, I don't think you can go wrong!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: DasSmoof
So would it be worth it to get this or the E4300? I'm in the market for a new gaming PC and I want to OC and have something for reasonably cheap that performs well. After an OC would the E2140 be reasonable enough in the performance category for games?
Or would it be better to stick with the tried at true e4300?

From the xbitlabs review, you may be better off with a E4300 or 4400 - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...y/pentium-e2160_6.html

 

[mercanucaribe]

They have no L2 cache??

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: DasSmoof
So would it be worth it to get this or the E4300? I'm in the market for a new gaming PC and I want to OC and have something for reasonably cheap that performs well. After an OC would the E2140 be reasonable enough in the performance category for games?
Or would it be better to stick with the tried at true e4300?

From the xbitlabs review, you may be better off with a E4300 or 4400 - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...y/pentium-e2160_6.html

Interesting...

 

[CrazyHorse]

That really depends. The 2160 seems to reach 3.4ghz +++ just fine on the E4300 / E4400 you will have to do a pin mod in order to get it anywhere near that speed. Besides the E2160 / 40 should be cheaper then 85 dollar problem is not alot of stores have that CPU yet. Wait until stores like Newegg and ZZF gets them in and you will find yourself in a good position to buy it.

I just bought that Chip for fun to see if the rumors are right that these are OC whxxes and yes they are.

If somebody considering buying a chip just right now, you will lose money because end of July Intel will have another major price drop.

 

[CrazyHorse]

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=e2160 $85 shipped OEM
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=e2140box $87 shipped Retail boxed

 

[magreen]

Originally posted by: CrazyHorse
That really depends. The 2160 seems to reach 3.4ghz +++ just fine on the E4300 / E4400 you will have to do a pin mod in order to get it anywhere near that speed.

Right. I think xbit probably would have gotten more out of their E2140/60 if they did the pinmod also. It makes the mobo strap it on the 1066 strap and lets you clock it higher.

 

[CCityInstaller]

Originally posted by: CrazyHorse
That really depends. The 2160 seems to reach 3.4ghz +++ just fine on the E4300 / E4400 you will have to do a pin mod in order to get it anywhere near that speed. Besides the E2160 / 40 should be cheaper then 85 dollar problem is not alot of stores have that CPU yet. Wait until stores like Newegg and ZZF gets them in and you will find yourself in a good position to buy it.

I just bought that Chip for fun to see if the rumors are right that these are OC whxxes and yes they are.

If somebody considering buying a chip just right now, you will lose money because end of July Intel will have another major price drop.

I am running my E4400 @ 3.410Ghz @ 1.45V with no pin mod. Don't assume you must do a pin mod to o/c these chips. I can boot into windows @ 3.8Ghz @ 1.52V, but the temps are too high for my liking. I have run Orthos Stress for over 13 hrs with no problems. It runs F@H 24/7.

 

[CrazyHorse]

Originally posted by: CCityInstaller

Originally posted by: CrazyHorse
That really depends. The 2160 seems to reach 3.4ghz +++ just fine on the E4300 / E4400 you will have to do a pin mod in order to get it anywhere near that speed. Besides the E2160 / 40 should be cheaper then 85 dollar problem is not alot of stores have that CPU yet. Wait until stores like Newegg and ZZF gets them in and you will find yourself in a good position to buy it.

I just bought that Chip for fun to see if the rumors are right that these are OC whxxes and yes they are.

If somebody considering buying a chip just right now, you will lose money because end of July Intel will have another major price drop.

I am running my E4400 @ 3.410Ghz @ 1.45V with no pin mod. Don't assume you must do a pin mod to o/c these chips. I can boot into windows @ 3.8Ghz @ 1.52V, but the temps are too high for my liking. I have run Orthos Stress for over 13 hrs with no problems. It runs F@H 24/7.

If you do some research, you will see that is necessary with most E4300 / E4400.

 

[CrazyHorse]

Originally posted by: magreen

Originally posted by: CrazyHorse
That really depends. The 2160 seems to reach 3.4ghz +++ just fine on the E4300 / E4400 you will have to do a pin mod in order to get it anywhere near that speed.

Right. I think xbit probably would have gotten more out of their E2140/60 if they did the pinmod also. It makes the mobo strap it on the 1066 strap and lets you clock it higher.

I actually think i have the Option on the AB9 QuadGT to set it in the bios. I m not sure if a pin mod would bring me more i guess i should try it out sometime.

 

[lopri]

My E2140 is stuck at 350FSB at any voltage (even @below stock vCore). Lowering multiplier didn't help at all (same max 350FSB) so I'm almost positive it's the board. Is anyone successful with these chips @400FSB+?

 

[AmpedSilence]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
Its seems mostly to be losing only in gaming benchmarks. For a casual gamer who mostly uses photoshop and dreamweaver (i.e. me), this is a dream. getting $700+ performance in under $100! How can you go wrong?

if you're using those apps getting a quad would be a much more worthwile investment IMO.

I've been debating about that for quite sometime. I just upgraded NightCrawler to an Opty 165 and made things a bit faster, but my god does it heat up the room. There is a noticeable difference in my bedroom and the other rooms in the house when it is on, so unfortunately i turn it on when i need it and thats it. with the predicted drops to $266 for a Q6600 and the 2x2GB RAM that i just saw in the 'Hot Deals' Section it makes it even more tempting.

The thing that makes me wonder is; is there that much of a difference to justify the cost. Right now, my machine can 'DVD Shrink' a DVD in 40 minutes. I'm happy with that.

What type of improvement would i expect to see with a Q6600?

 

[CrazyHorse]

I m running mine 2160 at 3.5ghz right now 389FSB. I can boot up with 400 but hell that chip gets hot with no airconditioner working in the house and no airflow in the tower to speak of. I m running orthos right now to see if it keeps stable. Looks like i hit a max temp of 78 degrees right now.

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
The thing that makes me wonder is; is there that much of a difference to justify the cost. Right now, my machine can 'DVD Shrink' a DVD in 40 minutes. I'm happy with that.

What type of improvement would i expect to see with a Q6600?

Here's a thread with some DVD Shrink numbers for OCed 3.6GHz Kentsfields:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...94&highlight=dvdshrink

versus numbers for dual-core C2Ds and A64s:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...18&highlight=dvdshrink

 

[lopri]

Crazyhorse: you're quoting a wrong app to compare. I agree that quad-cores are overkill for average (heck even enthusiast) desktop usage scenarios, but in encoding it kicks dual-core's ass. A question for you - If you lower the multiplier, how high can you raise your FSB? (with what mobo?)

 

[CrazyHorse]

Originally posted by: lopri
Crazyhorse: you're quoting a wrong app to compare. I agree that quad-cores are overkill for average (heck even enthusiast) desktop usage scenarios, but in encoding it kicks dual-core's ass. A question for you - If you lower the multiplier, how high can you raise your FSB? (with what mobo?)

I didn't say anything about Quad Cores, i was trying to give you an answer. Since you hit that FSB Wall so early.

I don't know how high i can go with a lower multi i dont have the memory to check that out right now. I can go 400mhz at 9 x and but thats to hot maybe later with a little bid more and better cooling. Even right now i do the 3.5ghz i broke up Orthos because temps were going into the upper 70's. So i let it run for half an hour and stopped it. I m sure it will be stable but i m not to happy with temps so i wait until i have a better cooling system setup for the 12 - 24hr Orthos.

My board is an ABiT AB9 QuadGT.

 

[lopri]

Oops. Sorry I confused your post and AmpedSilence'. I have a DFI board en route so hopefully it won't have the FSB problem. I've heard the DFI board has an option for strap settings.

 

[NoobyDoo]

e2xxx & P35 listed at Newegg.

e2140 = $89
e2160 = $99

e2xxx at Newegg

p35 neo-f = $102
p35-ds3r = $139
p35c-ds3r = $169
p5k deluxe = $219
p5k3 deluxe = $249

P35 at Newegg

 

[GFORCE100]

Expect the Celeron 400 series chips to be popping up round about now. These come with 512K L2 cache but are only single core. For anyone who wants a nice performance and power efficient budget CPU then it's probably best to opt for the E2140/E2160.

 

[AmpedSilence]

Originally posted by: Accord99

Originally posted by: AmpedSilence
The thing that makes me wonder is; is there that much of a difference to justify the cost. Right now, my machine can 'DVD Shrink' a DVD in 40 minutes. I'm happy with that.

What type of improvement would i expect to see with a Q6600?

Here's a thread with some DVD Shrink numbers for OCed 3.6GHz Kentsfields:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...94&highlight=dvdshrink

versus numbers for dual-core C2Ds and A64s:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...18&highlight=dvdshrink

God.... to go from 40 minutes to 4 minutes. Insane! It might be worth it. Who knows, i will see what shape my computer is in a few months. The Epox MB i have seems to dieing...