Pentium D & AMD Sempron

[Symcy94]

Recently I found Pentium D 925 CPU (http://ark.intel.com/products/27517/Intel-Pentium-D-Processor-925-4M-Cache-3_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB)

And I'm wondering how beter is it if we compare it with AMD Sempron 3000+ 1,6GHz.

I saw some benchmarks:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+D+3.00GHz&id=1127

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+3000+&id=411

And it seems wery weird to me, why is so little difference.
That AMD Sempron seems to have 1 core 1,6GHz while D925 have 2 cores 3,0GHz .... for my opinion the difference should be biger.

So now I'm wondering if that D925 will be way better then AMD Sempron 3000+ at 1,6GHz ?
I know those are old components, but i need to build some pc like this for my little sister.

So that PC would be used mostly for web browsing, downloading and watching movies, some word and excel ... That would be mostly all.

So coment pls what do you think about those 2 processors

 

[Yuriman]

Not sure if you were a hardware enthusiast in the early 2000's, but Intel went with a "high frequency, low IPC" design on their Netburst chips. AMD built high IPC chips and thus was releasing chips such as the Athlon64 3000+ which ran at 1.8ghz but performed significantly better than a Pentium 4 3ghz.

Although the AMD chip probably has similar single-threaded performance, I would think the Pentium D would be more useful due to it being a dual core. Be aware that the D produces a lot of heat and is very noisy with the stock cooler, while the Sempron produces relatively little, and you'll need a beefier power supply with the Pentium D too.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Go with the Pentium D. One thread doesn't cut it anymore plus a Sempron is a cut down Athlon.

 

[2is]

If you're looking for the more powerful chip, it's the Pentium D hands down. If you're looking for a more efficient chip, it's the Sempron.

 

[SPBHM]

Pentium D is a better CPU, at anything using both cores it's much faster, and even for single thread it should be OK (if not always faster, at least competitive) compared to the Sempron, considering it's 3.0 vs 1.6GHz

Pentium d 930 = 925 (without VT),
and 3800+ - 2GHz dual core k8
yours is a single core 1.6GHz

edit: on cinebench 11.5 the Pentium D 3ghz scores 0.79 points, if I remember correctly my old Sempron 3000+ (s754, 1.6GHz) did around 0.35 points

 

[Jimzz]

I agree the Pen D is better in this case. Also this is the 900 series of P-D so its even improved over the orignal 800.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Get the Pentium D.

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

Yea I am not a fan of the Intel® Pentium® D but in this case it really is the better processor. The simple fact of going from a single core processor to a dual core gives the Intel Pentium D the advantage.

 

[Arkaign]

Yep, Pentium D.

In this case, the 9xx models are much better than the 8xx models as well in terms of heat/stability.

 

[Hubb1e]

What a sad thread. Pentium D vs Sempron single core at 1.6ghz? And the consensus is to go with the pentium D which is actually the right answer. Wow. Never really thought I would see the old D recommended in 2012.

But, there's one more wrinkle. Make sure you go with the board that supports PCI-e because you're gonna need a relatively modern video card with h.264 video acceleration to make her experience ok on the internet today. I'd argue that's probably more important that single vs dual core. I use a single core Athlon 3400+ (s754 2.4ghz) on occasion and it is quite usable with a AMD 3450 video card doing the h.264 from flash videos.

 

[sm625]

Pentium D can handle netflix much better, which is to say it can handle netflix. The sempron cannot. A pentium D 925 is pretty much the same thing as a 930, which in turn is almost exactly the same as an athlon X2 3800.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Recently I found Pentium D 925 CPU (http://ark.intel.com/products/27517/Intel-Pentium-D-Processor-925-4M-Cache-3_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB)

And I'm wondering how beter is it if we compare it with AMD Sempron 3000+ 1,6GHz.

I saw some benchmarks:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+D+3.00GHz&id=1127

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+3000+&id=411



So coment pls what do you think about those 2 processors

They both suck! There I said it.

Seriously, do you have a motherboard and ram for either of them already? If you have to buy a motherboard, you should just get something modern, like a low end celeron.

 

[VirtualLarry]

They both suck! There I said it.

Seriously, do you have a motherboard and ram for either of them already? If you have to buy a motherboard, you should just get something modern, like a low end celeron.

This. There is a Biostar NM70 Celeron 847 board+CPU combo at Newegg for ~$90.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

This. There is a Biostar NM70 Celeron 847 board+CPU combo at Newegg for ~$90.

Even better, you can get a Celeron G550 (2.6GHz) for $45 and an ASRock H61M-DGS at $45 as well. That would be 2-3x faster than the 847 and more power efficient as well.

 

[tweakboy]

Grab the AMD Sempron my friend..

 

[Torn Mind]

Even better, you can get a Celeron G550 (2.6GHz) for $45 and an ASRock H61M-DGS at $45 as well. That would be 2-3x faster than the 847 and more power efficient as well.

:thumbsup: to this.
G550 will be very snappy in LXDE in Mint, so it will only be slightly less responsive in Windows. I have a rig that uses the G550 paired with the Asrock H77M board.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/93?vs=406

G550 is practically the same as the G620 while the Presler in the bench is a slightly faster variant of the Pentium D the OP is looking at.

And the Passmarks for the G540 is about 2400, which over triple that of the Pentium D or Athlon.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Can a Pentium D handle today's web browsing very well?

 

[Torn Mind]

Can a Pentium D handle today's web browsing very well?

Well, my slower single core socket 478 Prescott at 3.36 Ghz or even 3.2 GHz stock can handle webpages, Javascript, and Flash just fine after a RAM upgrade(from 512 MB to 1.2 GBs). Just don't expect HD video to run very well without hardware accleration.

It's better at web browsing than those old single core Atoms, that's for sure.

Forgot to add, with HyperThreading. Otherwise, performance takes a noticeable hit.

 

[SPBHM]

This. There is a Biostar NM70 Celeron 847 board+CPU combo at Newegg for ~$90.

it's better, but not really that great,
Cinebench r10 score for the Pentium D 925 = 3101, Celeron 847 (sandy bridge 1.1GHz) 2865

if you want something newer go with the G530 or better

 

[Arkaign]

This. There is a Biostar NM70 Celeron 847 board+CPU combo at Newegg for ~$90.

OP is in Slovenia, Newegg (and other retailers of similar type) aren't really comparable to prices in the US. Newer component prices in that part of Central Europe are not nearly as cheap as they are here. The used market is much better.

I agree that if OP had to buy new mobo, ram, etc for this PC that a new CPU would make more sense. However, it's more likely that he can scrape together parts on the used market there and a Pentium D 925 makes for a perfectly usable internet/basic use box.

 

[Arkaign]

Can a Pentium D handle today's web browsing very well?

Yep, I refurb tons of systems for a local charity resale shop, and I literally just put together a Pentium D 920 HP, with 2GB DDR2-4200, a 320GB HDD, with a retail boxed copy of Windows Vista Home Premium x64. I got it to SP2, installed all updates, LibreOffice, new drivers, and Youtube 720p plays fine with the crappy 8400GS that was in it, and web browsing with Chrome and IE9 were both quite satisfactory. Sure it's not a barn-burner, but hardware has moved far beyond the software over the past 5-6 years. Bonus is that I took a pile of junk and made a $99 value box for a family to buy, complete with 6 month exchange warranty and 17" 1440x900 LCD, and helped raise more money for the food bank.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I use a single core Athlon 3400+ (s754 2.4ghz) on occasion and it is quite usable with a AMD 3450 video card doing the h.264 from flash videos.

That's actually quite interesting, since AMD's support for flash hardware accelleration only starts with the HD4000 series of cards and up. Even though HD2000/3000 supported UVD and h.264.

 

[tweakboy]

the dual core Pentium D is slow as heck, that was my dads rig before he went to Sandy... he almost fell off the bridge cuz it was soo sandy..

 

[Symcy94]

Well I was asking that because my sister had PC with that AMD CPU in it, but I had motherboard and D925, so I upgraded her PC with that D925.

But now I'm wondering about D925 vs E6600 2,4GHz.
When she's on facebook, she get some kind of freezes time to time, and I'm wondering, if E6600 would be better idea for it.

p.s: E6600 with 2,4GHZ clock, and NOT 3,06GHz

 

[Durvelle27]

The Core 2 Duo E6600 is alot faster than a Pentium D in both single and multithreaded apps.
I have sitting next to me a Pentium D 915, Pentium D 945, Core 2 Duo E4500, & Core 2 Duo E6550 and the pentium D's slack compaired the the duo.