• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Pentium 4 840 or Athlon 64 X2 4400

T

TOPACTION

Member
I want to buy some new hardware to replace my 2.8 ghz pc.

But since I dindn't look hardware stuff for like a year now... so yeah im all lost, darn why do they have to mess things up like that!!

So i read a couple review but I wansn't able to find one Really good review between those 2 cpu. i do understand now the dual core and stuff (cheap solution) but wich one is really better then the other AMD or INTEL . ONLY for gaming the rest I dont care..

i'm not sold to AMD I can go intel no problem... from pricewatch the 640 intel is like 100 $ less is the amd 4400
the 4400 really worth the 100 $ more ??
is the 640 EXTREME really worth 500 $ !! more.. what the defference bettween the regular 840 LGA775, again on pricewatch they seem to be really like the same and dual core..
I dont mind paying 100$ more for the amd but if its only for like 5 fps in games i would probebly take the Intel.

and now there is RAM called DDR2 ... so now we need to get ddr2 to run on dual core system or its to gain more performance ???

thx
 
If you are only gaming, you don't need a dual core chip. Dual core chips will not help games for at least another year and a half.

AMD chips are better than Intel chips at games. Always.

DDR2 is only used by intel chips. And right now, its not any better than normal DDR. It is actually slightly worse; it runs about as fast, but it costs significantly more.
 
so you say that the Athlon 64 4000 will be faster then the 4400 ??? or I will need to buy the FX51 but darn its like 800$ if for the same performance at a lowest cost I need to get a dual one I will get a dual.. or I should got for an intel - Pentium 4 650 only at 350$ or a 660 ??
 
Originally posted by: CheesePoofs

DDR2 is only used by intel chips. And right now, its not any better than normal DDR. It is actually slightly worse; it runs about as fast, but it costs significantly more.
Click to expand...


Saying it ,"Costs significantly more..." is incorrect. I'm building a Pentium D 820 machine for someone right now and I just got 1 Gb OCZ 533 Mhz DDR2 ram for $83 with a $15 rebate which takes it down to $68. Show me a gig of regular DDR from a reputable company less than $68 and I'll agree with you but for now they are very similarly priced.

Back to the topic and hand, I'd read Anandtech's review. It does a great job of showing the strengths and weaknesses of both chips. Overall, if you are going the high-end dual core route, I'd say go with AMD. Intel's got some nicely priced low-end dual cores, but overall AMD is the undisputed performance king.
 
Originally posted by: anandtechrocks
Originally posted by: CheesePoofs

DDR2 is only used by intel chips. And right now, its not any better than normal DDR. It is actually slightly worse; it runs about as fast, but it costs significantly more.
Click to expand...


Saying it ,"Costs significantly more..." is incorrect. I'm building a Pentium D 820 machine for someone right now and I just got 1 Gb OCZ 533 Mhz DDR2 ram for $83 with a $15 rebate which takes it down to $68. Show me a gig of regular DDR from a reputable company less than $68 and I'll agree with you but for now they are very similarly priced.

Back to the topic and hand, I'd read Anandtech's review. It does a great job of showing the strengths and weaknesses of both chips. Overall, if you are going the high-end dual core route, I'd say go with AMD. Intel's got some nicely priced low-end dual cores, but overall AMD is the undisputed performance king.
Click to expand...



Agree 100%. DDR2 doesn't cost that much anymore, and is superior to DDR.
 
Every next-generation game will use dual-core technology. So if you have the money the choice between single-core and dual-core is really a no-brainer. You get twice the processing power, as simple as that. The application just has to make use of it.
 
Give a link Coomar, I'm not arguing about the X2's obvious dominance, I'm just saying that it is incorrect to say DDR2 prices are Significantly higher than DDR.

Here's the DDR2 for $68 after rebate:

DDR2

 
Originally posted by: anandtechrocks
Originally posted by: CheesePoofs

DDR2 is only used by intel chips. And right now, its not any better than normal DDR. It is actually slightly worse; it runs about as fast, but it costs significantly more.
Click to expand...


Saying it ,"Costs significantly more..." is incorrect. I'm building a Pentium D 820 machine for someone right now and I just got 1 Gb OCZ 533 Mhz DDR2 ram for $83 with a $15 rebate which takes it down to $68. Show me a gig of regular DDR from a reputable company less than $68 and I'll agree with you but for now they are very similarly priced.

Back to the topic and hand, I'd read Anandtech's review. It does a great job of showing the strengths and weaknesses of both chips. Overall, if you are going the high-end dual core route, I'd say go with AMD. Intel's got some nicely priced low-end dual cores, but overall AMD is the undisputed performance king.
Click to expand...

rebates don't count, I'm sure you can find a gig of DDR ram for cheaper with a rebate. But to be honest, I didnt' know DDR had dropped that far in price. I should have just said that it costs most, not significantly more. But DDR2 still has much higher latencies than DDR, and you have to buy faster ram than that to cancel out those high latencies.
 
sure, ddr2 is cheap, but only if you get the crappy ddr2-533 stuff thats probably equivalent to pc2700. sure, they have 1000mhz ddr2, but it costs more than a 4400+.

id recommend the dual core. it wont help in gaming, but wouldnt it be nice if you could game while encoding a dvd? or do 2 other things at the same time, with minimal performance loss?

if you get a dual core, the X2 is far superior to the PD in almost every way. including: temperature, power, overclocking, and performance in most things.

 
Originally posted by: theman
sure, ddr2 is cheap, but only if you get the crappy ddr2-533 stuff thats probably equivalent to pc2700. sure, they have 1000mhz ddr2, but it costs more than a 4400+.

id recommend the dual core. it wont help in gaming, but wouldnt it be nice if you could game while encoding a dvd? or do 2 other things at the same time, with minimal performance loss?

if you get a dual core, the X2 is far superior to the PD in almost every way. including: temperature, power, overclocking, and performance in most things.
Click to expand...

:thumbsup: if the one and only thing you will ever do on your computer is game, and you will upgrade within a year, get a single core. If you plan on doing anything else or you will wait longer to upgrade, go dual core. And go with an X2.
 
Mr Troll unless you are going to contribute something to this thread then contribute, otherwise shut your mouth as your post does nothing to add to what the OP was asking,

Now on topic,

Basically everyone else has said it, X2 is better as far as speed, power consumption and temperatures. Also keep in mind that the mobo's for the intel dual cores are rather pricey and that will make up the price difference between a X2 and PD.

Now what I want to know is how much cash are you willing to spend?? That will really tell which system you want/need
 
Price-wise the 4400+ and a Pentium D 840 will be very similiar.

Performance-wise, the 4400+ is the better value. The D 840 also does not support HT, like the uber-expensive EE 840 does. $650 is a hefty premium for HT.

 
Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Now on topic,

Basically everyone else has said it, X2 is better as far as speed, power consumption and temperatures. Also keep in mind that the mobo's for the intel dual cores are rather pricey and that will make up the price difference between a X2 and PD.

Now what I want to know is how much cash are you willing to spend?? That will really tell which system you want/need
Click to expand...

Actually, motherboards have dropped in price big-time. You can get an Asus 945 board w/ integraed graphics for as little as $114 Asus P5LD2-VM

As mentioned earlier, DDR and DDR2 are pretty much at the same price levels also. Thus, the difference comes in price w/ the Intel 820 for $260 and A64 X2 4200+ for $550 at the low-ends.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top