The only differance is that the DS3 has solid capacitors, which supposedly helps with overclocking, although that doesn't seem to be the case, since the cheaper S3 usualy does as well, or better than the DS3.
The only differance is that the DS3 has solid capacitors, which supposedly helps with overclocking, although that doesn't seem to be the case, since the cheaper S3 usualy does as well, or better than the DS3.
the only problem i have with that board is... has only 2 ddr2 slots and 2 ddr1, i need 4xddr2 :/ otherwise id be interested in it. it doesnt say its for c2d's either, but im assuming it is since it supports dual core p-d's. any other products for under say $80?
actually i found one that supports SLI (in case i wanted to go 2x880's or something)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135026
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135026
ewww ECS.....you would be better off with the Gigabyte mobo...SLI is a wank anyway.
but it's your money, feel free to blow it on garbage ECS motherboards if you want.
but it's your money, feel free to blow it on garbage ECS motherboards if you want.
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im guessing its a prescott p4...but if i had to pick only between those two, i would go for the pentium D. oh, the pentium D better be a 900 series processor too.
if not, you might want to make the jump to a core 2 duo E6300 (kicks the hell out of any pentium 4/D cpu overclocked or not).
if not, you might want to make the jump to a core 2 duo E6300 (kicks the hell out of any pentium 4/D cpu overclocked or not).
they suck....poor quality products and even poorer quality warranty(at least in Australia anyway).
If you are planning to go the C2D route don't be a tight wad when it comes to purchasing a mobo......get a decent mobo and the results will be really satisfying.
you should be able to get a decent overclock(if you are into that sort of thing....like the rest of us) using your P4 with the gigabyte motherboard....I'm sure that if you don't like gigabyte, Asus has some good motherboards as well.
Well i'm not really into overclocking, ive never done it and i dont really have the need. i want my stuff to last longer.
- so heres another deal thats going through my head. i was thinking about getting this deal.
reason: well it's SLI (incase i wanna go dual 8800's), has the P-D (will hold me off on buying a core 2 duo for a while.) or is there really no difference in gaming and overall performance compared to my p4? should i save the $90 towards a new processor?
- so heres another deal thats going through my head. i was thinking about getting this deal.
reason: well it's SLI (incase i wanna go dual 8800's), has the P-D (will hold me off on buying a core 2 duo for a while.) or is there really no difference in gaming and overall performance compared to my p4? should i save the $90 towards a new processor?
Firstly gaming wise a P-D will make very little if any difference in performance...getting a lower clocked P-D than your P4 will cause frame rate to be lower, you have to realise that a P-D is just 2 P4's on a single die...so clock for clock in single threaded applications(IE 99% of games) a 3ghz P-D is identicle to a 3ghz P4.
For me the cons of getting a P-D far out weigh any benifits you would get from the second core....sure some multi threaded application and generally multitasking will be slightly improved but the high temps can lead to a few problems(like overheating and clock throttling), especially if the ventilation in your case is very ordinary.
Secondly as I have already said and others have too, SLI is a huge wank..epsicially with a lower performing CPU like a P-D...and two video cards, especially higher end models can generate considerable amount of heat, which the could make an already overheating P-D problem worse...not to mention the beefy PSU requirered for SLI.
and last but not least...ewwww ECS....but you've already heard what I have to say about that.
If I was you and this is just a suggestion, I'm only trying to but you on the right path, I would get a could 965P motherboard, the Gigabyte one seems very popular...but really ask Duvie and Stevty2889 about a good motherboard they are more than willing to help you out, and just maybe get a decent HSF unit and overclock your P4...you should be able to get a decent boost out of it, probably more than what a stock P-D could do for your gaming.
And then save up a few pennies down the road and buy a C2D and a GF8800 and live happily ever after.
this is just my opinion.
For me the cons of getting a P-D far out weigh any benifits you would get from the second core....sure some multi threaded application and generally multitasking will be slightly improved but the high temps can lead to a few problems(like overheating and clock throttling), especially if the ventilation in your case is very ordinary.
Secondly as I have already said and others have too, SLI is a huge wank..epsicially with a lower performing CPU like a P-D...and two video cards, especially higher end models can generate considerable amount of heat, which the could make an already overheating P-D problem worse...not to mention the beefy PSU requirered for SLI.
and last but not least...ewwww ECS....but you've already heard what I have to say about that.
If I was you and this is just a suggestion, I'm only trying to but you on the right path, I would get a could 965P motherboard, the Gigabyte one seems very popular...but really ask Duvie and Stevty2889 about a good motherboard they are more than willing to help you out, and just maybe get a decent HSF unit and overclock your P4...you should be able to get a decent boost out of it, probably more than what a stock P-D could do for your gaming.
And then save up a few pennies down the road and buy a C2D and a GF8800 and live happily ever after.
this is just my opinion.
alright you talked me into it. i'm just going to get a mobo that supports both p4 and C2D. When quad-cores come out will they be skt 775 and fit in it too maybe?
hmmm not sure about the US, but here in Australia we usually get some decent deals right before christmas.
But I would say that at a guess, when ever you can afford it would be a good start
what would you guys say to me about getting this to hold me off for a few monthes:
Getting This case
&
This REFURBISHED mobo
it will only be a $70 thing and ill probably keep the case for the c2d/mobo.
Getting This case
&
This REFURBISHED mobo
it will only be a $70 thing and ill probably keep the case for the c2d/mobo.
why???
that mobo doesn't support C2D, you would just be wasting your money.
Just save yourself some hassles, get a C2D mobo, run your P4 in it until you can afford a nice C2D cpu.
your P4 will still be sufficent for new games for at least the next year or so....hell even older AXP's (I still have a 3000+@2.33ghz and a 2800+ in my collection of PC's)can run games fine if you have a decent video card and enougth ram.
the case looks alright...
that mobo doesn't support C2D, you would just be wasting your money.
Just save yourself some hassles, get a C2D mobo, run your P4 in it until you can afford a nice C2D cpu.
your P4 will still be sufficent for new games for at least the next year or so....hell even older AXP's (I still have a 3000+@2.33ghz and a 2800+ in my collection of PC's)can run games fine if you have a decent video card and enougth ram.
the case looks alright...
I think because i'm waiting for a good deal, i know if i wait on a motherboard and cpu i'll save money. so if i get this and use it for a few monthes, prices will drop.
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