Pentium 4 3.0 vs Pentium D dual core

[Zombeh]

I'm trying to decide on either buying a new motherboard for my p4 3.0 or a pentium D with mobo combo.

Since the pentium d is dual core i feel this is a better processor. but is it a noticeable difference in games? Should i save my money and just get a new motherboard for my p4?

whats your advice?

 

[Stumps]

what speed P-D would you purchase?

anything over 3ghz would be faster no matter what, but anything slower would only be faster in multithreaded applications.

 

[Zombeh]

i was gonna settle at least a 2.8. so that wouldnt be worth the upgrade? i figured if a new mobo is $70 why not put in another 50 for a processor combo.

 

[stevty2889]

A dual core is gonna make very little differance for gaming. A 3ghz pentium-d and 3ghz P4 will perform similarly in games.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
i was gonna settle at least a 2.8. so that wouldnt be worth the upgrade? i figured if a new mobo is $70 why not put in another 50 for a processor combo.

what do you use the PC for?

if you do a lot of encoding and that sort of stuff, then it would probably be worth it, however if you can try to get one at least as equal in speed to what you already have...no sense in losing performance on everything that you run.

if you are going to buy an 800 series P-D make sure that you're case is well ventilated...they run pretty hot.

 

[Zombeh]

alright thats what i wanted to hear. i use my system mostly for gaming.


but as far as comparing x2's and pD's, theres a noticeable difference right?

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
alright thats what i wanted to hear. i use my system mostly for gaming.


but as far as comparing x2's and p4's, theres a noticeable difference right?

AMD X2's generally leave the P-D in their dust when it comes to most things.

 

[khurios2000]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
alright thats what i wanted to hear. i use my system mostly for gaming.


but as far as comparing x2's and p4's, theres a noticeable difference right?

if not overclocked P-D will fall behind X2s

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: khurios2000

Originally posted by: Zombeh
alright thats what i wanted to hear. i use my system mostly for gaming.


but as far as comparing x2's and p4's, theres a noticeable difference right?

if not overclocked P-D will fall behind X2s

If you overclock them both the P-D will stay behind anyway, still running much hotter, and still using way more power.

If you can afford to go to an X2, or even better a core 2 duo, go for that, don't waste your time with a pentium-d. Even the lowest end 1.86ghz core 2 duo wipes the floor with the 3.6ghz pentium-d in gaming, and just about everything else.

 

[Zombeh]

well the reason i ask all this is because i'm trying to get rid of my dell. i want to transfer all my stuff excluding motherboard (its a dell propietary mobo) to a new mobo/case. so i was wondering if i should pay the extra for a combo kit. what would you guys recommend?

 

[Arkaign]

What kind of memory do you have already? How much and what type?
What kind of video card do you have right now, if any? PCI-E or AGP?
What kind of budget do you have to work with?

The right path depends entirely on these things ..

But :

C2D > A64 > PD > P4 (generally)

 

[Zombeh]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
What kind of memory do you have already? How much and what type?
What kind of video card do you have right now, if any? PCI-E or AGP?
What kind of budget do you have to work with?

The right path depends entirely on these things ..

But :

C2D > A64 > PD > P4 (generally)

1.5 gigs of DDR2 -pc2-3200
x850xtPE 256mb pci-express
and as budget is concerned, i was only planning on upgrading my mobo and psu till vista comes out.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zombeh

Originally posted by: Arkaign
What kind of memory do you have already? How much and what type?
What kind of video card do you have right now, if any? PCI-E or AGP?
What kind of budget do you have to work with?

The right path depends entirely on these things ..

But :

C2D > A64 > PD > P4 (generally)

1.5 gigs of DDR2 -pc2-3200
x850xtPE 256mb pci-express
and as budget is concerned, i was only planning on upgrading my mobo and psu till vista comes out.

hmmm, you might want to look at a X2 3800+ if you want a cheap but fast way into Dual core.

if you can go a bit extra with your budget the obvious choise is a C2D setup.

but at worst a 900 series P-D probably isn't such a horrible choice....it you can get the CPU cheaply it might be worth while.

why not just get a Mobo that supports your CPU (I'm assuming it a LGA775) and supports the C2D CPU's?

that way you can run your P4 for now and then when you can afford it get a C2D later on.

 

[Zombeh]

why not just get a Mobo that supports your CPU (I'm assuming it a LGA775) and supports the C2D CPU's?

that way you can run your P4 for now and then when you can afford it get a C2D later on.

you're right, it is a 775. but that idea is a great idea.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Zombeh

why not just get a Mobo that supports your CPU (I'm assuming it a LGA775) and supports the C2D CPU's?

that way you can run your P4 for now and then when you can afford it get a C2D later on.

you're right, it is a 775. but that idea is a great idea.

:thumbsup:

if you need help choosing a motherboard, ask Duvie or stevty2889, they know their stuff when it comes to C2D motherboards.

 

[myocardia]

This is definitely the motherboard to get, if you're on a budget, but want to overclock your C2D: Gigabyte 965P-S3.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: myocardia
This is definitely the motherboard to get, if you're on a budget, but want to overclock your C2D: Gigabyte 965P-S3.

you know what...I was going to suggest a gigabyte model as I only ever use gigabyte mobo's in my systems and I never had any problems with them, but....





I didn't know what was a good model for C2D .....My high end systems are A64's and Skt 478 P4's....I haven't done enought research on C2D yet to even be able to pick a board for myself...although I will be making the jump to a C2D system in the near future.

 

[Zombeh]

so $115 is a budget board when it comes to c2d, haha. i'll bookmark this mobo though.

 

[myocardia]

Well, there are cheaper boards that will run a C2D. There aren't cheaper boards that will overclock half as high as that 965P-S3, though.

 

[DrMrLordX]

If you want a real budget board for a Core 2 Duo, you can always go with this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
If you want a real budget board for a Core 2 Duo, you can always go with this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092

He already has a PCI-E Vid card and DDR2 so there is really no point with getting that motherboard.

hid bet bet would be to get a P965 board ,i've heard good things about the Gigabyte model Myocardia listed.....but like I said before....his best bet would be to ask Duvie or Stevty2889, these guys know their stuff.

 

[Markfw]

I have 2 of the S3 boards listed, and Duvie has 2. They are great ! Mine are at 3.4 and 3.66. Duvies are both at 3.43.

 

[Roguestar]

Mark, what kind of cooling do you use on them? Would you say it's not worth getting the DS3 over the S3?

 

[Markfw]

I use Big typhoons, only because I had those on my Pentium D's which needed them. I would probably try a ninja sythe or infinity if I was buying today (and overclocking) If you don;t OC (which is a sin) then the stock cooler is fine with a C2D, they don;t run hot.

Oh, and Duvie would be best to ask on the DS3 vs S3, he has both. I simply didn;t want to spend the extra money.

 

[Stumps]

just one question...what is the difference between the DS3 and S3?...i can't find any differences on Gigabytes website, however their is a considerable price difference here in Australia of nearly AU$70