News Pentagon tracking suspected Chinese spy balloon over the US

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gorobei

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then how did that 1st missile explode in that video?
what am i missing?
high altitude balloons for circumnavigation typically have onboard helium tanks to maintain inflation. a fragment from the control fins on the missile or if it hit part of the undercarriage could have ripped off and the bits could easily pierce the He gas tank.
 

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A theory as to what one of the three later objects might have been.

(I think I read that the three later entities were all at much lower altitudes than the first one...I suspect they will turn out to have been random floating junk, though the first I presume really was a Chinese spy thing)


There is speculation that at least one of the objects shot down over Canada, Yukon by a US Air Force jet may have been amateur radio pico balloon K9YO-15 which was launched from Illinois on October 10 2022. It was on it's seventh circumnavigation of the globe after being aloft for 123 days.
 

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high altitude balloons for circumnavigation typically have onboard helium tanks to maintain inflation. a fragment from the control fins on the missile or if it hit part of the undercarriage could have ripped off and the bits could easily pierce the He gas tank.

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It looks like something exploded near the solar cells at the bottom of the balloon.

also, if it went through the balloon, why isnt there an image of the missile exiting?
 

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"There is speculation that at least one of the objects shot down over Canada, Yukon by a US Air Force jet may have been amateur radio pico balloon K9YO-15 which was launched from Illinois on October 10 2022. It was on it's seventh circumnavigation of the globe after being aloft for 123 days. "

why was the USAF the ones shooting down that balloon in Canadian airspace?
doesnt canada have fighters?
 

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"There is speculation that at least one of the objects shot down over Canada, Yukon by a US Air Force jet may have been amateur radio pico balloon K9YO-15 which was launched from Illinois on October 10 2022. It was on it's seventh circumnavigation of the globe after being aloft for 123 days. "

why was the USAF the ones shooting down that balloon in Canadian airspace?
doesnt canada have fighters?

I gather there's some sort of joint defence agreement that covers such things.

NORAD stands for North American Aerospace Defense Command, It's not USAD

I mean, it would be awkward if Soviet nuclear bombers had flown over the North Pole and the US had to stand around and watch until they reached the US-Canadian border.
 

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I gather there's some sort of joint defence agreement that covers such things.

NORAD stands for North American Aerospace Defense Command, It's not USAD

I mean, it would be awkward if Soviet nuclear bombers had flown over the North Pole and the US had to stand around and watch until they reached the US-Canadian border.
i would expect canada to launch fighters when that Russian bomber is approaching canadian air space
 

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I gather there's some sort of joint defence agreement that covers such things.

NORAD stands for North American Aerospace Defense Command, It's not USAD

I mean, it would be awkward if Soviet nuclear bombers had flown over the North Pole and the US had to stand around and watch until they reached the US-Canadian border.
My late uncle was a Lt. Colonel in the USAF in the 60’s, they used to fly/patrol the North Pole for just that reason. It was called the DEW Line.
 
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nothing, as the Canadian air force tried with 2000 rounds of 20mm bullets back in the 80s.
the balloon kept on drifting
After seeing the above picture, it would appear that they shot the Fn payload. Good luck with recovery.
 

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So is the whole kerfuffle over now?

I still don't really understand it all. What useful information would the Chinese have gotten from their spy balloon (going on the assumption that the first one was definitely such a spying device, even if the others were just random floating sky junk)?

And is there really any grounds for the US to get super-outraged about it all, given that it seems like this sort of thing goes on all the time (someone mentioned the U2 - didn't the US regularly overfly Russia with those things back in the day? Then again, the Russkies did shoot one down, so I suppose all's fair in espionage and Cold war, they can send them up and the US can shoot them down and everyone's happy, and at least everything is unmanned so nobody dies)
 

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After seeing the above picture, it would appear that they shot the Fn payload. Good luck with recovery.
Here is a better pic of the payload intact.
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Ok, I just left my sisters house in WV about 10:45 and thought I would look up to see if I could see Venus "kissing" Jupiter. I saw what I thought were stars but looking closer they were moving and not blinking. I noticed another in formation beside it and then further back and further out two more in formation with the first two. The more I looked the more I saw non-blinking lights all headed the same direction with no sound. I bet there were at least a dozen. They were headed "southish" best I could tell. It was mostly cloudy so maybe they were doing maneuvers or chasing an object or were the objects but got spotted by us when the clouds broke up a bit. I've never seen anything like this in my life.
 
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Ok, I just left my sisters house in WV about 10:45 and thought I would look up to see if I could see Venus "kissing" Jupiter. I saw what I thought were stars but looking closer they were moving and not blinking. I noticed another in formation beside it and then further back and further out two more in formation with the first two. The more I looked the more I saw non-blinking lights all headed the same direction with no sound. I bet there were at least a dozen. They were headed "southish" best I could tell. It was mostly cloudy so maybe they were doing maneuvers or chasing an object or were the objects but got spotted by us when the clouds broke up a bit. I've never seen anything like this in my life.
If they were all kind of moving in a line together, you probably saw part of a starlink constellation.