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Will the higher ups like Rumsfeld listen? Or will this be pushed aside?
Will the higher ups like Rumsfeld listen? Or will this be pushed aside?
Pentagon dept says US has lost the hearts and minds war
- Thread starter drewshin
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I've read that the internet, specifically AQ's usage of it, has played a major role in our loss of this war.
This thread is actually a repost of this one Info.
Here's a link to the actual report Strategic Comms.. It's interesting reading for anyone who is intellectually curious enough to actually read it vice forming an opinion based on excerpts and headlines.
Here's a link to the actual report Strategic Comms.. It's interesting reading for anyone who is intellectually curious enough to actually read it vice forming an opinion based on excerpts and headlines.
dahunan
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The CIA wants to TAKE AWAY YOUR INTERNET....
http://kurtnimmo.com/blog/index.php?p=449
December 02, 2004
This Blog is a ?Non-State Actor?
It was only a matter of time.
?Former CIA Director George J. Tenet yesterday called for new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States that use the Internet,? Shaun Waterman reports for United Press International. ?I know that these actions will be controversial in this age when we still think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or accountability,? Tenet told an information-technology security conference in Washington, ?but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control.?
The former CIA director said telecommunications?and specifically the Internet?are a back door through which terrorists and other enemies of the United States could attack the country, even though great strides have been made in securing the physical infrastructure.
The Internet ?represents a potential Achilles? heel for our financial stability and physical security if the networks we are creating are not protected,? Mr. Tenet said.
He said known adversaries, including ?intelligence services, military organizations and non-state actors,? are researching information attacks against the United States.
Access to networks like the World Wide Web might need to be limited to those who can show they take security seriously, he said.
We're losing because of Bush's stupid method of fighting it. He's an absolute failure as a strategist. Instead of doggedly pursuing al Q in Afghanistan and where ever else they might be, we attacked Iraq because they supposedly possessed huge stocks of WMD...which never turned up *gasp*
Now we're bogged down in a quagmire that cannot be won.
Now we're bogged down in a quagmire that cannot be won.
The administration is gonna downplay it, and CAD is going to come here telling us how things are going so well in Iraq.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
More winning hearts and minds.
US military arrests Iraqi in charge of Sistani electoral list: aide
AFP: 12/5/2004
NAJAF, Iraq, Dec 5 (AFP) - The man in charge of drawing up an electoral list backed by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the spiritual leader of Iraq's Shiite Muslim majority, has been arrested by the US military, an aide said Sunday.
"American forces on Saturday arrested Mohammed Hashem al-Yehya, coordinator of the six-person committee set up by the Marjaiya (Iraq's highest Shiite authority) to supervise the drawing up of an electoral list with the backing of the ayatollah," said a Sistani representative in the holy city of Najaf.
"If he is not released, there will be serious consequences," said the source, giving no reason for Yehya's arrest in Baghdad.
The US military said it had heard reports of the arrest but was unable to give any further information.
On Tuesday, Shiite political leaders said that they were in the final stages of drawing up an electoral list that had Sistani's blessing, ahead of the landmark elections scheduled for January 30.
Sistani is one of the most powerful and popular figures in Iraq and commentators argue that any list endorsed by him would stand a good chance in the polls.
12/05/2004 17:39 GMT - AFP
US military arrests Iraqi in charge of Sistani electoral list: aide
AFP: 12/5/2004
NAJAF, Iraq, Dec 5 (AFP) - The man in charge of drawing up an electoral list backed by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the spiritual leader of Iraq's Shiite Muslim majority, has been arrested by the US military, an aide said Sunday.
"American forces on Saturday arrested Mohammed Hashem al-Yehya, coordinator of the six-person committee set up by the Marjaiya (Iraq's highest Shiite authority) to supervise the drawing up of an electoral list with the backing of the ayatollah," said a Sistani representative in the holy city of Najaf.
"If he is not released, there will be serious consequences," said the source, giving no reason for Yehya's arrest in Baghdad.
The US military said it had heard reports of the arrest but was unable to give any further information.
On Tuesday, Shiite political leaders said that they were in the final stages of drawing up an electoral list that had Sistani's blessing, ahead of the landmark elections scheduled for January 30.
Sistani is one of the most powerful and popular figures in Iraq and commentators argue that any list endorsed by him would stand a good chance in the polls.
12/05/2004 17:39 GMT - AFP
Well at least the world knows we aren't a bunch of pu$$Ies..and in the end isn't that all that really matters.
People like bin Laden, Richard Clark, Noam Chomsky, and leftist across the globe contradict themselves daily.
For decades, these people complained that the US upheld the strongmen of the world, especially in the Middle East. They accuse the United States of being culpable for all the atrocities committed by these monsters. But when we take out one of these monsters, we're "losing the hearts and minds" of the Arab streets, the globe, or whatever. They see the invasion of Iraq as an injustice acted upon by a mad cowboy intent on stealing Saddam's oil. Conveniently, these people gloss over the fact that the madman they begged the US government to stop doing business with 20 years ago hasn't changed one bit. They selectively forget that he's broken over 20 laws of their most fabled institution, the United Nations.
bin Laden wouldn't have been happy until Islamo-terrorists took over Iraq
Richard Clark wouldn't be happy until Hussein's signature was on one of the authorization letters calling for terrorism against American interests in the Gulf
Noam Chomsky and the leftests wouldn't be happy until a liberal President, acting under the command of the liberal United Nations, decided to take out Hussein for humaniterian reasons.
Well, President Bush did it. It seems like everyone wanted Hussein's regime to go except the aforementioned people didn't figure it'd go like this. Either way, the end result would've been the same.
Screw the hearts and mind of the rest of the world. This was something that was long overdue but no one had the balls to do it. And no one wanted it to be done by someone who's interests was different than theirs. Those same hearts and mind will always come around.
For decades, these people complained that the US upheld the strongmen of the world, especially in the Middle East. They accuse the United States of being culpable for all the atrocities committed by these monsters. But when we take out one of these monsters, we're "losing the hearts and minds" of the Arab streets, the globe, or whatever. They see the invasion of Iraq as an injustice acted upon by a mad cowboy intent on stealing Saddam's oil. Conveniently, these people gloss over the fact that the madman they begged the US government to stop doing business with 20 years ago hasn't changed one bit. They selectively forget that he's broken over 20 laws of their most fabled institution, the United Nations.
bin Laden wouldn't have been happy until Islamo-terrorists took over Iraq
Richard Clark wouldn't be happy until Hussein's signature was on one of the authorization letters calling for terrorism against American interests in the Gulf
Noam Chomsky and the leftests wouldn't be happy until a liberal President, acting under the command of the liberal United Nations, decided to take out Hussein for humaniterian reasons.
Well, President Bush did it. It seems like everyone wanted Hussein's regime to go except the aforementioned people didn't figure it'd go like this. Either way, the end result would've been the same.
Screw the hearts and mind of the rest of the world. This was something that was long overdue but no one had the balls to do it. And no one wanted it to be done by someone who's interests was different than theirs. Those same hearts and mind will always come around.
IAteYourMother
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Wel... after being pissed at Bush for all this sh1t for the last year to the point of murderous feelings, I've kinda accepted that there's no way I can do anything to make Bush smarter (I'm sure his dad tried all sorts of things)
Well, one of the biggest mistakes you can ever make is underestimating your enemy/competitor. Those that have fallen into the trap of thinking/believing Bush is stupid are littered along his road to being Commander-in-Chief.
The more you think he's stupid, the less time you think about defeating him. I've met him and he's not stupid.
Hayabusa Rider
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I don't underestimate Bush or his cohorts. I have known for a long time he is a dangerous man. Bush isn't stupid so much as incompetent which is not the same. Normally that would not matter, but he is ruthless and has a great deal of power. He is not stupid though.
Originally posted by: dahunan
It is just too bad the Alcoholism or Cocaine didn't kill him before he killed our soldiers...
This is just a placeholder in case she decides to edit her post and I have time to respond.
phillyTIM
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This is a fitting retribution to the Bush Regime's testosterone-induced, daddy-pleasing, reign of turmoil.
The US should be isolated and excluded from the World community, and left to disintegrate.
If US citizens can re-elect a bastard-child like the Bush Regime, it deserves what it gets.
The US should be isolated and excluded from the World community, and left to disintegrate.
If US citizens can re-elect a bastard-child like the Bush Regime, it deserves what it gets.
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