Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

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HendrixFan

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Actually the freeh report is a bunch of opinions as they talked with almost no actual people given that they were either dead or informed by their lawyers not to speak to them.

Why on earth would someone be scared of telling the truth to the Freeh commision? What reason could a lawyer have to tell their client to not put out something that helps exonerate PSU, Paterno, or anyone else?
 

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Why on earth would someone be scared of telling the truth to the Freeh commision? What reason could a lawyer have to tell their client to not put out something that helps exonerate PSU, Paterno, or anyone else?

If they were involved, it would implicate them. Take the Fifth! Let some else take the fall!:thumbsdown:
 

HendrixFan

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If they were involved, it would implicate them. Take the Fifth! Let some else take the fall!:thumbsdown:

That's my point. If there is anything that wasn't included in the Freeh report as a result of people being clammed up, it wouldn't be beneficial to PSU. His claims continue to be absurd.
 

lupi

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If you have to ask why someone wouldn't talk then you need to watch the youtube clips from that cop/lawyer doing a legal class seminar.
 

HendrixFan

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If you have to ask why someone wouldn't talk then you need to watch the youtube clips from that cop/lawyer doing a legal class seminar.

Talking to someone working on the Freeh investigation is completely different. There is no legal grounding with your answers, so nothing you say can be used against you in a court of law.
 

cronos

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Why on earth would someone be scared of telling the truth to the Freeh commision? What reason could a lawyer have to tell their client to not put out something that helps exonerate PSU, Paterno, or anyone else?

Because when they tell the truth, they will end up implicating themselves.

I can't wait until the trials start for the three stooges. We need to have a bet going on who will be the first one to cut a deal and flip on Paterno, putting most of the blame on him. He's dead and his legacy already tarnished, it's not like he's going to defend himself. I'm certain this is a strategy at least some of the lawyers have been thinking about.
 

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Because when they tell the truth, they will end up implicating themselves.

I can't wait until the trials start for the three stooges. We need to have a bet going on who will be the first one to cut a deal and flip on Paterno, putting most of the blame on him. He's dead and his legacy already tarnished, it's not like he's going to defend himself. I'm certain this is a strategy at least some of the lawyers have been thinking about.

What? Why would a prosecutor offer a deal to provide evidence against a dead guy?
 

cronos

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What? Why would a prosecutor offer a deal to provide evidence against a dead guy?

I guess that didn't sound right. I didn't mean it as an actual 'deal' offered by the prosecutor, but since they haven't told their side of their stories, when they do they might as well be something that puts most of the blame on the dead guy.

The three could even get creative and work together to come up with a storyline that supports this.
 

cubby1223

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"He said, 'To do what they're doing to Penn State is so unjust.' He loves the program and he loves the university." -- Attorney Joe Amendola, relating Jerry Sandusky's opinion

"He continues to believe that the truth will come out at some point, and that he'll get another trial or another opportunity to establish his innocence," Amendola said.


Still in denial. That is the scary part.
 

zinfamous

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You people will believe what you wanna believe. I will stick to what I know over my two years at PSU and what JoePa did over 50 years stressing education over football victories. I will take those fact over some bureaucrats with some emails and bunch of opinions with little fact to support his opinions. And how all of the sudden JoePa is this big monsters who only care about football and nothing else, never mind about the #1 graduation rate he accomplished over his life.

Anyhow, go on with your feeding frenzy with Freeh report as the pile of blood thrown into the shark tank. Have your good time bashing a good school and their students and alumni. Whatever make your life a bit meaningful, like I give a fvck.


so, rchiu = Joseph Paterno the 3rd

:hmm:
 

cronos

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so, rchiu = Joseph Paterno the 3rd

:hmm:

Oh wow that was out of line. You can call him whatever names you want, but calling someone 'a Paterno' these days is a very very serious insult. Them's fighting words! :D
 

zinfamous

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Oh wow that was out of line. You can call him whatever names you want, but calling someone 'a Paterno' these days is a very very serious insult. Them's fighting words! :D

well, you know. The only other place I have seen this level of denial--in the face of an internal investigation headed by an experienced FBI investigator--is form the Paterno family.

I mean...seriously buried in denial here. And there is honestly no beneficial reason, personal or otherwise, for anyone that is not a Paterno to stand so clearly on the wrong side of this.
 

Meghan54

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Does Lupi think there was a cover-up?



No, I think his belief is this was all just a big frame-up by Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State to cripple PSU football.

What else could it have been? Certainly not anything to do with Saint JoePa.
 

lupi

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Yeah, something attributed to you in a published report couldn't be legally used against you, lol.
 

GagHalfrunt

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What? Why would a prosecutor offer a deal to provide evidence against a dead guy?

A prosecutor won't, that was a ridiculous assertion. The first guy to cut a deal will need to hang the other two living defendants.

In reality, probably only Schultz will be able to make that deal and claim that he was following orders. As Spanier and Curley outrank him they're the bigger targets and the ones with the power to compel their underlings to participate in the coverup. He'll get offered a slap on the wrist to cooperate and he'll sing like a canary.
 
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OBLAMA2009

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Why on earth would someone be scared of telling the truth to the Freeh commision? What reason could a lawyer have to tell their client to not put out something that helps exonerate PSU, Paterno, or anyone else?

freeh was one of the most corrupt people in government ever. hes the clown that brought us waco and ruby ridge so what he says has absolutely no credibility at all. i find it hard to believe that sandusky would lead an exemplary life for 65 years and then suddenly start abusing "disadvantaged" kids when he was known for helping kids through second mile. this whole thing smells a lot like the mcmartin preschool case in which the public was whipped up into hysteria by greedy attorneys and after millions of public dollars were spend it was found to be a total fraud. the upside to the attorneys in this case in a million times greater with penn state being attached to the case. theres no rationality with respect to this case at all, you cant even rationally discuss the evidence--or rather lack of it--with people, everyone is just expected to take the world of "troubled" kids over a respectable guy like sandusky. i just hope the truth comes out on appeal
 

zinfamous

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freeh was one of the most corrupt people in government ever. hes the clown that brought us waco and ruby ridge so what he says has absolutely no credibility at all. i find it hard to believe that sandusky would lead an exemplary life for 65 years and then suddenly start abusing "disadvantaged" kids when he was known for helping kids through second mile. this whole thing smells a lot like the mcmartin preschool case in which the public was whipped up into hysteria by greedy attorneys and after millions of public dollars were spend it was found to be a total fraud. the upside to the attorneys in this case in a million times greater with penn state being attached to the case. theres no rationality with respect to this case at all, you cant even rationally discuss the evidence--or rather lack of it--with people, everyone is just expected to take the world of "troubled" kids over a respectable guy like sandusky. i just hope the truth comes out on appeal

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there's one in every crowd.

as for the bolded...if you think that is the reality of what is going on with Sandusky, then I suggest you put down the Kool-Aid and step into a little place I call "realiy."
 

rchiu

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Reality really sucks, doesn't it?

Guess hiding your head in the sand is much more preferable than admitting the truth that a college football coach gained, over time, so much power that he dictated much of how the university he worked for ran. And that power lead to a football-first focus from the uni. and the administration, much to the detriment of a bunch of children.

Deny all you want, but the Freeh Report, an investigation that Penn State commissioned (few seem to remember that little point), is not just a bunch of opinions from bureaucrats. The email trail, that rather pesky evidence they found, clearly demonstrates that the football program seemed to carry more influence than it should have, esp. from JoePa. It may be difficult to accept, but the facts are there.

JoePa lied about knowing about the sexual predator in his Grand Jury testimony. That in itself should be horrifying, but then to find out JoePa knew about Sandusky's "problem" for a long time and just hid it to keep the football program "clean" appearing is appalling.


But believe what you will. There will always be the tin foil hat wearers out there....just remember, Reynolds Wrap is much better for that use than WalMart tin foil. More durable and thicker---works better at deflecting those pesky facts and truth.


BTW.....as for this assertion:



Sorry, Penn State doesn't have the #1 grad. rate, not even in their own conference----Northwestern has that. Don't forget Notre Dame has a higher football player grad. rate than Penn State ( and always has). Also, remember Stanford, Vanderbilt, Duke, Rice, BC (among others) all consistently out-graduate Penn State.

In fact, in 2011, Penn State dropped out of the top ten BCS schools with the highest grad. rates for football players.

True, it's great Penn State consistently graduated most of its players, but it's not #1, and isn't #1......or #10.

Sources:

NCAA rankings for the years 2000-2003-- http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-10-27-ncaa-graduation-rates-study_N.htm


Rankings for 2011 season--- http://stanford.scout.com/2/1066657.html

Oh really? This Time article, coming out after the JS thing, ranking Penn State Football #1 in academic must be false then.

http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/07/paternos-revenge-penn-state-football-is-no-1-in-academic-bowl/

But yeah, who cares about the fact, every armchair general who have no idea what Penn State look like, who JoePa is, all of the sudden knows JoePa is all about football power, and do everything to secure his football power. Oh yeah, that's based on that one Janitor B's opinion in that $6.5 million report......priceless....
 

cliftonite

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Oh really? This Time article, coming out after the JS thing, ranking Penn State Football #1 in academic must be false then.

http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/07/paternos-revenge-penn-state-football-is-no-1-in-academic-bowl/

But yeah, who cares about the fact, every armchair general who have no idea what Penn State look like, who JoePa is, all of the sudden knows JoePa is all about football power, and do everything to secure his football power. Oh yeah, that's based on that one Janitor B's opinion in that $6.5 million report......priceless....

We know that JoePa is a POS scumbag who let children be raped.