Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[Capt Caveman]

you can't lose when you know you're right.

James Carville: Suspending Penn State Football Is a ‘Really Dumb Idea’

:biggrin: Wait, PSU was punished even though you're crying. Guess what loser, you lost. :biggrin:

 

[lupi]

Yes. The fact that he was a football coach at a prestigious school

um, he actually wasn't the coach there anymore, those damn details ya know.

 

[lupi]

Yet, none of those are bigger than the PSU scandal. That went on for over decade that involved the highest positions of the University.

Wow, you waste a lot of energy at losing.

It's too bad the PSU football program wasn't eliminated. You would be crying so much, you probably wouldn't even be able to go to work.

you're right, I wouldn't call the murder of someone worse, /whoosh

 

[Capt Caveman]

you're right, I wouldn't call the murder of someone worse, /whoosh

A scandal that went on for a day or two compared to a decade plus that involved the highest positions in a University. Keep on failing. Then again, you're a Jets fan. :biggrin:

 

[rchiu]

Hahaha. Keep that denial machine turning bud. You might not think that way but, believe me. There are plenty of influential people at large corporations who feel otherwise. They don't want to be at cocktail parties and power lunch meetings where they have to introduce their rising star new jr executive who happens to be a recent alumni of Penn State. Yes, this happens. I have mingled with quite a few who flat out stated as such. This is how it works in the real world.

This is going to be a significant black eye on Penn State's good name for years to come. And to think that this whole situation exploded simply because some idiot tried to "sweep it under the rug" so as not to mar their precious football program. Oh the hilarity. Hahahahaha

Oh I believe you about how people make fun of Penn State alumni, but hey, we can't help all those idiots out there in the wild. In the end, none of these matter. Do you, those people ridicule Penn State Alum, journalist, NCAA really care about abused kids? No, making fun of Penn State give you people some satisfaction in your life. Writing about this give Journalist paper sales, page view counts. NCAA bureaucrats just want to cover their butt, show that their program is legit when in fact they are all in this huge game of money.

In a month or 2 these will all be forgotten and people will be talking about Jackson family feud and other junk.

 

[HendrixFan]

um, he actually wasn't the coach there anymore, those damn details ya know.

But he still was using the facilities to rape children there. And they knew that.

 

[waggy]

um, he actually wasn't the coach there anymore, those damn details ya know.

details are important. Like how sandusky still had a office and brought kids to the campus on a regular basis. Yet JoPA or the president thought to maybe ban him and take away his office.

 

[cronos]

In a month or 2 these will all be forgotten and people will be talking about Jackson family feud and other junk.

Welcome back rchiu.

Don't worry, Penn State is not going to be forgotten any time soon. There'll be the criminal proceedings of three people, which will take months and months, if not years.

And then when things seem to have died down you can count on one group of people who doesn't know how to shut up to get the media talking about Penn State again. You guessed it, the Paterno family will make a statement. This you can count on. Maybe they'll be announcing the results of their own 'investigation', or maybe they just want to complain about something. It doesn't matter, they'll find something to make a statement about.

 

[rchiu]

Welcome back rchiu.

Don't worry, Penn State is not going to be forgotten any time soon. There'll be the criminal proceedings of three people, which will take months and months, if not years.

And then when things seem to have died down you can count on one group of people who doesn't know how to shut up to get the media talking about Penn State again. You guessed it, the Paterno family will make a statement. This you can count on. Maybe they'll be announcing the results of their own 'investigation', or maybe they just want to complain about something. It doesn't matter, they'll find something to make a statement about.

haha, yeah, let's see about that. Let's see how much "care for the kids" you people have and will continue to keep this up. This thread is probably gonna be in page 20+ after a couple of weeks.

 

[cronos]

Not sure who you meant that reply for. I never said anything about caring for the kids. I was just assuring you that right when you think people have forgotten about Penn State, the Paterno family will release a statement again.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Oh I believe you about how people make fun of Penn State alumni, but hey, we can't help all those idiots out there in the wild. In the end, none of these matter. Do you, those people ridicule Penn State Alum, journalist, NCAA really care about abused kids? No, making fun of Penn State give you people some satisfaction in your life. Writing about this give Journalist paper sales, page view counts. NCAA bureaucrats just want to cover their butt, show that their program is legit when in fact they are all in this huge game of money.

In a month or 2 these will all be forgotten and people will be talking about Jackson family feud and other junk.

You mean the cases against the AD, President and others plus the civil lawsuits will be settled that soon? Plus, it'll only be a month into the football season when PSU is getting used to losing.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

you must have missed the news where the bcs went byebye.

The BCS going "bye bye" != the NCAA running college football playoffs. I suggest you reread the news very carefully, starting with this article. Here's a hint:

The presidential oversight committee, which includes a representative from each of the FBS conferences and Notre Dame...

That doesn't look like an NCAA committee to me. But what the heck -- link me to an article saying that the NCAA will be running the new college football playoff system. When I say "running," I mean sponsors, picks sites, runs the selections of team, signs/manages the media rights contract, and makes distributions from that media rights contract. You know, like March Madness. FBS conferences are members of the NCAA but that does not mean the NCAA is running the new playoff system any more than they ran the BCS (which they did not).

You won't link it, because you can't. Maybe the FBS conferences will cede this to the NCAA when the details are ironed out, but that has not been announced and I'd be surprised if it does happen. They could've asked the NCAA to institute a March Madness kind of tournament with 16 teams or so years ago and didn't and there's a reason for that. Would you like to guess what that reason is?

actually I'm more of a michigan/UF fan, so could really care how penn state does, yet another joke on yall crying ass losers.

Not a joke on me -- I couldn't care less how Penn State does on the field after these sanctions. Unfortunately for YOU, your opinion doesn't count for squat and PSU's punishment has been delivered, agreed to by PSU, and will be enacted shortly.

You'll eventually slink off and hide, just like you did last year when the Jets tanked after all your smack talk.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

lol, I'm laughing at you fools.

Considering we're right and what we desired/predicted came true (ie, harsh punishments), I wouldn't be laughing at anyone except yourself.

As for these quotes you posted, I'm assuming you're in agreement with them. Let's take a few, shall we?

"When they (the NCAA) start investigating criminal activity, that is a very slippery slope for them."

That's a very interesting quote. Especially since you've repeatedly stated that the NCAA didn't conduct an investigation. Self ownage for the win!

"They talked about culture, there's only one way you're going to change the culture in big time college football - take down the scoreboards."

So you agree that the NCAA should've killed PSU football then? Ok, I wouldn't lose any sleep if that happened.

"I think it was basically a PR move… this is not a football story, this is a story about a pedophile who happened to be a football coach."

..and the coach, AD, president, and AD department that covered it up for years.

I think the NCAA did us a horrendous disservice by pushing football back to the front and the victims to the back. Go take a look at the sports pages today and see what the stories are all about."

Uh, the NCAA is a sports organization and only has power to punish sports programs.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Oh I believe you about how people make fun of Penn State alumni, but hey, we can't help all those idiots out there in the wild. In the end, none of these matter. Do you, those people ridicule Penn State Alum, journalist, NCAA really care about abused kids? No, making fun of Penn State give you people some satisfaction in your life. Writing about this give Journalist paper sales, page view counts. NCAA bureaucrats just want to cover their butt, show that their program is legit when in fact they are all in this huge game of money.

In a month or 2 these will all be forgotten and people will be talking about Jackson family feud and other junk.

As long as Penn State is unable to play in a bowl game, it will be remembered.

And the 4 years of sanctions + the 4-6 years to recover the core of a team will be remembered with the quality of the season.

 

[SP33Demon]

many issues with your post that's based on your personal opinion not fact. (opinion that I strongly disagree with)
1) JoePa IS innocent of any wrong doing. With all the information we have now, the grand jury, the state law enforcement, all emphasized that the investigation was not on JoePa. That JoePa did his part by informing those who are in charge with investigation at PSU.

2) JoePa did fulfilled his obligation by reporting to those people in charge. See this is what you people do smearing him either by ignorance or on purpose. AD and the VP he talked to are not just his "supervisor", they are the people at PSU who have the resource, the mandate to investigate and made decision on the molestation charge. The VP oversaw the campus police at the time, the AD handles administrative decision on coaches, staff and sports facility. He did not just PASS THE BUCK, he reported the incident to people responsible for handling it at PSU, just like we report crimes and suspicious activity to police.

3) Another smear with your characterization that JoePa and Sandusky were "friend". Seriously is that based on fact? Any friendship between JoePa and Sandusky ended when JoePa didn't make Sandusky his successor and resulted in Sandusky's early retirement in 1999.

You people seems to think JoePa is responsible for Sandusky only getting prosecuted now. But keep the following details in mind;
1) In 2002, there was no victim identified. No victim to come forward, it's just words by McQueary.
2) In 1998, with much more info and formal investigation, the State did nothing and couldn't even bring a case against Sandusky
3) With no victim, only one witness and no formal recording the the witness account, the school admin (emphasis again Gary Shultz headed campus police) could very well feel there is not enough to go on with the case
4) JoePa has the respect, and maybe the influence in PSU, but doesn't mean he misuse those power to interfere with other people's job or question other people's decision, especially in non-football matter. and child molestation charge is NON-FOOTBALL MATTER.
5) JoePa cannot do anything about Sandusky being on campus, first not when he doesn't have the mandate to decide, again that's the job of school admin, and second not when there is no charge and conviction against Sandusky.

You people are simply over stating JoePa's Obligation and fault for what it is in reality.

So rchiu, now that you've read the Freeh report, do you still feel the same way about this post (from November)? Especially the email where Curley suggested to Spanier they hold off on their original plan to tell the police after Curley met with Paterno during that fateful weekend?

 

[lupi]

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As for these quotes you posted, I'm assuming you're in agreement with them. Let's take a few, shall we?



That's a very interesting quote. Especially since you've repeatedly stated that the NCAA didn't conduct an investigation. Self ownage for the win!



So you agree that the NCAA should've killed PSU football then? Ok, I wouldn't lose any sleep if that happened.



..and the coach, AD, president, and AD department that covered it up for years.



Uh, the NCAA is a sports organization and only has power to punish sports programs.

lol, you're so inept it's got to be painful.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

lol, you're so inept it's got to be painful.

Translation: I got owned so now it is time for name calling. Here is some free advice: refute the points I made or STFU. Quit dodging -- please highlight what was factually incorrect in my post to you. Quoting stupid fuck journalists makes you look like a total retard.

You're getting bitchslapped hard and if you weren't already the laughingstock for your Jets predictions, you're a bigger one now. But please, by all means, keep pissing and moaning -- it is enjoyable because you're not going to change a fucking thing and PSU is getting punished regardless of your whining.

 

[lupi]

Report: Freeh source criticizes NCAA

A source familiar with the investigation into Penn State's response to former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky's child sex abuse scandal is speaking out against the NCAA.

According to The Chronicle of Higher Education, a person connected to the Freeh report, which condemned Penn State's handling of Sandusky's abuse, said the NCAA should not have based its harsh sanctions against the university on the investigation.

"That document was not meant to be used as the sole piece, or the large piece, of the NCAA's decision making," the source told The Chronicle on Thursday. "It was meant to be a mechanism to help Penn State move forward. To be used otherwise creates an obstacle to the institution changing."

According to The Chronicle, members of former FBI director Louis Freeh's investigative team can't speak publicly about the report. On Friday night, a spokesperson for the group denied that any member of the team spoke to The Chronicle.

"The Freeh Group emphatically stated that no member of its investigative team spoke to The Chronicle of Higher Education for its story," the spokesperson said. "The Freeh Group has no comment on the NCAA's use of the report."

Issued earlier this month, Freeh's firm produced a 267-page report that concluded that former Penn State coach Joe Paterno, president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz "failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade."

Freeh called the officials' disregard for Sandusky's child victims "callous and shocking." Sandusky is awaiting sentencing after being convicted of 45 criminal counts for abusing 10 boys.

On Monday, the NCAA severely sanctioned Penn State for its handling of the scandal, hitting the university with a $60 million fine, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998.

NCAA president Mark Emmert said the organization relied on the Freeh report when coming up with those penalties because it was "vastly more involved and thorough than any investigation we've ever conducted."

The Chronicle's source, however, said that should not have been the case.

"The Freeh team reviewed how Penn State operated, not how they worked within the NCAA's system," the source told The Chronicle. "The NCAA's job is to investigate whether Penn State broke its rules and whether it gained a competitive advantage in doing so."

The source also told The Chronicle that since the Freeh report didn't interview Paterno, Schultz or Curley, the NCAA should have furthered the investigation to see "how far this went."

"The NCAA took this report and ran with it without further exploration," the source said. "If you really wanted to show there was a nexus to cover up, interview the coaches. See their knowledge and culpability ..."

The failure to do so, according to the source, has damaged Penn State.

"The sanctions against Penn State were really overwhelming, and no one imagined the report being used to do that," the person told The Chronicle. "People thought it would help others draw conclusions about what happened and provide a guide for leaders to be able to identify minefields and navigate through them.

"Instead, Emmert took the report and used Penn State's own resources to do them in. The institution is made of people, too. And they don't deserve this."

Meanwhile, former Penn State players Franco Harris, Rudy Glocker and Christian Marrone have sent an email to other Penn State alumni saying the Freeh report "is highly flawed, and factually insufficient."

The group plans to publish the letter, obtained Friday by The Associated Press, in The Wall Street Journal and other large publications.

 

[lupi]

Translation: I got owned so now it is time for name calling. Here is some free advice: refute the points I made or STFU. Quit dodging -- please highlight what was factually incorrect in my post to you. Quoting stupid fuck journalists makes you look like a total retard.

You're getting bitchslapped hard and if you weren't already the laughingstock for your Jets predictions, you're a bigger one now. But please, by all means, keep pissing and moaning -- it is enjoyable because you're not going to change a fucking thing and PSU is getting punished regardless of your whining.

yeah, because they almost enmass disagree with you so they now become stupid fuck journalists. lol, nomnomnom those tears.

 

[sactoking]

It's an "anonymous source" so the article is worthless. Beyond that, this alleged "anonymous source" says "no one imagined" the report would actually be used and that the NCAA should "interview Paterno". This alleged source is a complete buffoon and has no credibility.

 

[Drako]

yeah, because they almost enmass disagree with you so they now become stupid fuck journalists. lol, nomnomnom those tears.

Go back to BWI, you may get some support.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

yeah, because they almost enmass disagree with you so they now become stupid fuck journalists. lol, nomnomnom those tears.

Journalists have been retards long before this decision and will be retards long after. I guess they have a lot in common with Jets fans.

Again, instead of dodging my questions (which you've now done for PAGES), please tell me why I would be "in tears"? In case you haven't noticed, PSU has been severely punished and my belief is that they should have been severely punished. I agree with the punishment. The only one crying here is YOU -- "Waaaah! Waaaaah! Waaaaah! This journalist agrees with me so I must be right! Waaaah! Waaaah!" The only tears I've been shedding are of laughter after watching the entire forum own you for days. You're a joke -- you dodge and ignore posts and your entire repertoire seems to be posting articles. Penn State agreed to all of this, so blame them if you think they should've fought it. As a few articles have already mentioned, many in the NCAA membership favored far harsher penalties.

P.S. The expression is "en masse."

 

[lupi]

the articles give the only response needed, that you can't accept that is your problem with that undiagnosed hardon several of yall seem to have with penn state.

 

[waggy]

still crying? damn.

 

[Broheim]

the articles give the only response needed, that you can't except that is your problem with that undiagnosed hardon several of yall seem to have with penn state.

wat?