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Pedro Martinez

I had the pleasure of watching him pitch...it was an experience more than anything else

From wiki:

Martínez was traded to the Boston Red Sox in November 1997 for Carl Pavano and Tony Armas, Jr., and was soon signed to a six-year, $75,000,000 contract (with an option for a seventh at $17 million) by the Sox general manager Dan Duquette, at the time the largest ever awarded. In 1999 he enjoyed one of the greatest pitching seasons of all time, finishing 23-4 with a 2.07 ERA and 313 strikeouts, winning his second Cy Young Award (this time in the American League), and coming in second in the Most Valuable Player ballot.
Pedro arrived in Boston for the 1998 season and remained the team's ace for seven years.
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Pedro arrived in Boston for the 1998 season and remained the team's ace for seven years.

The MVP vote was controversial, as Martínez received the most first-place votes (8 of 28), but was totally omitted from the ballot of two sportswriters who believed pitchers were not sufficiently all-around players to be considered. Pedro Martínez finished second to Texas Rangers catcher Ivan Rodriguez, 252 points to 239.

Martínez was named the AL Pitcher of the Month in April, May, June, and September of 1999, an unprecedented feat for a single season. Martinez punctuated his dominance in the 1999 All-Star Game start, when he struck out Barry Larkin, Larry Walker, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire and Jeff Bagwell in two electrifying innings.

In the 1999 playoffs against the Cleveland Indians, though hampered by an injury, Martínez dominated the final game of the series. Entering the game in relief with an 8-8 score, Martínez completely mesmerized the much feared Cleveland lineup pitching six no-hit innings for the win. In the American League Championship Series, he pitched seven shutout innings to beat Red Sox nemesis Roger Clemens and the New York Yankees in Game 3, handing them their only loss of the postseason.

Martínez's strikeouts and win count were slightly down in 2000, but he posted an exceptional 1.74 ERA, the AL's lowest since 1978, winning his third Cy Young award with his ERA about a third of the park-adjusted league ERA (4.97). No other single season by a starting pitcher has had such a gigantic differential. He also set a record in the lesser known sabermetric statistic of Weighted Runs allowed per 9 innings pitched (Wtd. RA/9). Martinez posted a remarkably low 1.55 Wtd. RA/9.

In 2000, Pedro Martinez's WHIP was 0.74, breaking a 77-year-old record set by Walter Johnson. The American League slugged just .259 against him. Martinez became the only starting pitcher to have more than twice as many strikeouts in a season (284) as hits allowed (128).

In 1999 and 2000 Martinez allowed 288 hits, 597 strikeouts, 69 walks and a 1.90 ERA in 430 innings. Some statisticians believe that in the circumstances?with lefty-friendly Fenway Park as his home field, in a league with a DH, during the highest offensive period in baseball history?this performance represents the peak for any pitcher in baseball history.

Though he continued his dominance when healthy, carrying a sub-2.00 ERA to the midpoint of the season, Martínez was injured for much of 2001 with a rotator cuff injury as the Red Sox slumped to a poor finish. He rebounded in 2002 to lead the league with a 2.26 ERA and 239 strikeouts, going 20-4. However, that season's American League Cy Young award narrowly went to 23-game winner Barry Zito of the Oakland A's, despite Zito's higher ERA, fewer strikeouts, and lower winning percentage. Martínez became the first pitcher in history to lead his league in those three statistics and not win the Cy Young Award.

After Boston's World Series triumph in 2004, Martínez became a free agent and signed a 4 year, $53 million contract with the New York Mets. In 2005, his first season as a Met, Martinez posted a 15-8 record with a 2.82 ERA, 208 strikeouts, and a league-leading 0.95 WHIP. He was also shut down for his last two starts because of injury. Victor Zambrano took his spot in the rotation. His won-loss totals were dented by the erratic New York bullpen, which blew several leads including one of 8-0. Opponents batted .204 against him.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Greg Maddux - 1995 - 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA He allowed 39 runs all season for crying out loud.

Looks like he may be repeating that this season. A hell of a pitcher.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Greg Maddux - 1995 - 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA He allowed 39 runs all season for crying out loud.
Ron Guidry - 1978
25-3 with a 1.74

Wow.
That's what an untouchable slider can do you for you. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: raystorm
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Greg Maddux - 1995 - 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA He allowed 39 runs all season for crying out loud.

Looks like he may be repeating that this season. A hell of a pitcher.

Absolutely no way he does it this season. He hasn't had an ERA under 3.96 since 2002.
 
Originally posted by: cliftonite
One of the greatest pitchers of all time (from a Yankee fan)

Yeah, basically. In 99-2000 he was unstoppable. I think in both of those seasons he had games against the Yankees where he struck out 13+.... that's insane.
 
I remember that 1 hit game against the Yankees 4-5 years ago where the only Yankee who got a hit was Ruben Sierra, on a home run. Besides that one hit, it was lights out for the yankees. One of the most dominating performances I've ever seen.


And can anybody forget the 99 ALCS Playoffs against the Indians? He came out of the bullpen with an injured back and threw 6 no-hit innings to allow the BoSox to advance. It was amazing. As soon as he came out of the bullpen, the Jacobs Field fans grew silent, shocked that he was able to pitch, and knowing their fate.
 
Originally posted by: raystorm
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Greg Maddux - 1995 - 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA He allowed 39 runs all season for crying out loud.

Looks like he may be repeating that this season. A hell of a pitcher.
Well when they say "nasty"... I think of heat. Doesn't Greg Maddux throw "junk" nowadays ? Pedro doesn't throw hard either but when people say nasty... I think of the Cinci "Nasty Boys".
 
Pedro used to throw 95-96 mph. He still can, but chooses not to since his rotator cuff ends up developing problems when he does.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: raystorm
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Greg Maddux - 1995 - 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA He allowed 39 runs all season for crying out loud.

Looks like he may be repeating that this season. A hell of a pitcher.
Well when they say "nasty"... I think of heat. Doesn't Greg Maddux throw "junk" nowadays ? Pedro doesn't throw hard either but when people say nasty... I think of the Cinci "Nasty Boys".

I don't think the word nasty is appropriate for Maddux either.

Greg Maddux has always been a surgeon. When you have an ERA under two having never thrown a ball at 90+mph, you have a serious command of the strikezone.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: raystorm
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Greg Maddux - 1995 - 19-2 with a 1.63 ERA He allowed 39 runs all season for crying out loud.

Looks like he may be repeating that this season. A hell of a pitcher.
Well when they say "nasty"... I think of heat. Doesn't Greg Maddux throw "junk" nowadays ? Pedro doesn't throw hard either but when people say nasty... I think of the Cinci "Nasty Boys".


His "junk" pitches are the best anyone has ever seen. When I think of pitching I think of Greg Maddux. He is the master. Nobody has achieved what he has with a meager 88mph fastball. Complete control over every pitch. Hall of Fame will be knocking on his door the day he is eligble.


 
I FIRMLY believe that the best season ever for a pitcher was Dennis Eckersley's 1990 season. Talk about being untouchable....no other pitcher comes close (short of Sandy Koufax).

5 ER all year, 48 saves, ERA of 0.61, WHIP of 0.61, 4 walks all season, 41 hits all season, ERA+ of 606 (!!)
 
Originally posted by: chuckywang
I FIRMLY believe that the best season ever for a pitcher was Dennis Eckersley's 1990 season. Talk about being untouchable....no other pitcher comes close (short of Sandy Koufax).
According to Baseball Reference's Adjusted ERA+ stat, Pedro posted the most dominant season of baseball's modern era in the year 2000 (Tim Keefe's season from 1880 was first). Text Randy Johnson's best season comes 37th on this list. Maddux is closest at #4 (1994) and #5 (1995).

Even more impressive since hindsight is 20/20: he posted those numbers in the heart of the juiceball era. I don't like the sonofabtch, but I'll admit he is probably the most dominating pitcher of our era.

EDIT: Also you can't compare closers to starters, different animals. If you're talking closers, Gagne is on par with that Eckersly season.
 
Originally posted by: chuckywang
I FIRMLY believe that the best season ever for a pitcher was Dennis Eckersley's 1990 season. Talk about being untouchable....no other pitcher comes close (short of Sandy Koufax).

5 ER all year, 48 saves, ERA of 0.61, WHIP of 0.61, 4 walks all season, 41 hits all season, Cy Young.
Here's a run for your money: Walter Johnson in 1913

W 36 L 7
ERA: 1.14
Complete Games: 29 - In Pedro's uber-dominant years 1999/2000 he had a total of 12 in both years combined
Innings Pitched: 346
 
Originally posted by: SP33DemonEDIT: Also you can't compare closers to starters, different animals. If you're talking closers, Gagne is on par with that Eckersly season.
Bingo. It's alot easier not to give up hits and runs when you're pitching one inning every couple of days. A starting pitcher tires out and gets hit.
 
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