Peanut butter & Jelly, v2.0

[Captante]

Yeah. Normal Kitkat tastes nasty to me.

The dark chocolate Kitkat is my preferred poison.

Awhile back I was treated to some Japanese "Green Tea" Kit Kats .... they were delicious but later my stomach was in knots... no idea why.

 

[Muse]

Unsweetened dark chocolate is sure a LOT healthier than sweetened milk .... and yes, pure sugar is poison.

It really is a matter of degrees far as specific foods but we've become SO accustomed to "sweet" EVERYTHING that it's insane... I drink "sour" cherry juice now and it tastes almost sickeningly sweet since I've phased out 99% of ADDED sugar from my diet.

Last time I took a sip of a soda I literally spit it right out.... tasted nasty!

I ordered regular coca cola in a restaurant and disliked it, didn't drink it. I used to buy diet cola and one day was exiting Costco and the security guy says to me "that isn't good for you." I thought to myself, "that guy is way cool!" I stopped buying it, used to have a can with dinner nightly.

I have stevia powder, but use it very very sparingly. In a pint of lemonade I put less than 1/8 teaspoon. I put the same amount in my cottage cheese cake to complement 2-4 tablespoons of white sugar.

I do eat homemade plum jam from my trees, but sparingly. I stopped putting syrup on my waffles. Instead I work in chopped dates with the batter. I don't put sugar in my coffee.

 

[Muse]

Another one:

Mango with skin helps the body use its sugar more effectively and mitigate its harmfulness. Eating it without the skin is not wise, yet this is what 99.9% of people do.

Interesting. Then, if you put mango in your smoothie you should be sure to include the skin.

 

[Muse]

Yeah, the pectin fiber in such jams is beneficial.

I was in the habit of adding a lot of sugar to the jam I made from my two plum trees, but more recently I've used 1/2 the sugar and have a number of quart jars with no added sugar. I guess I should try to get used to it.

 

[IronWing]

Unsalted peanut butter is okay for cooking but is disgusting for eating plain. Salted is vastly superior for sandwiches.

/ex cathedra

 

[Muse]

Unsalted peanut butter is okay for cooking but is disgusting for eating plain. Salted is vastly superior for sandwiches.

/ex cathedra

I can't disagree and I should know because for years I made my own PNB from initially raw shelled peanuts. I always added some salt. Oh, and NaCl is fine with me, it doesn't have to have anything to do with oceans. I bought a case of iodized Leslie salt some years ago and have a long way to go before I am in the market for more salt. Bought some pink Himalayan salt at Costco though, I still don't know why, haha.

 

[JEDI]

I very often take note of sodium content before I buy stuff.
If sodium > calories, I tend to stay clear.

genius!
i will try out that rule

 

[igor_kavinski]

I put the same amount in my cottage cheese cake to complement 2-4 tablespoons of white sugar.

You could try replacing that sugar with honey.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Interesting. Then, if you put mango in your smoothie you should be sure to include the skin.

I actually eat mangos like an apple, with the skin on, though have to choose ones that have a good looking, clear skin. I used to be crazy about them but the older I get, the less interested I'm getting in eating sweet stuff. I have to do mental calculations of risk assessment.

 

[IronWing]

You could try replacing that sugar with honey.

Why? All that does is add a bunch of histamines to the sugar.

 

[Muse]

You could try replacing that sugar with honey.

I heard that honey has very little to offer nutritionally over table sugar. I have a LOT of honey on my shelves but seldom reach for any.

Honey, believe it or not, is said to be the one food that never goes bad! I don't know how the bees do it. It does crystalize after a while, is my experience. I just put it in the microwave a bit and it decrystalizes by virtue of the heat. Give it a stir and it's good as new.

 

[Captante]

Why? All that does is add a bunch of histamines to the sugar.

Honey DOES actually have beneficial properties that plain sugar lacks. For example it can be used as "dressing" to prevent infection on open wounds among other things.

However essentially honey to a human body nutrition-wise is just more sugar. (tastes a lot better in tea though IMO!)

I heard that honey has very little to offer nutritionally over table sugar. I have a LOT of honey on my shelves but seldom reach for any.

Honey, believe it or not, is said to be the one food that never goes bad! I don't know how the bees do it. It does crystalize after a while, is my experience. I just put it in the microwave a bit and it decrystalizes by virtue of the heat. Give it a stir and it's good as new.

Add a little bit of water prior to heating then stir it in when warm .... it won't re-crystalize nearly as quickly.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I heard that honey has very little to offer nutritionally over table sugar.

It's a mixture of glucose and fructose in their free form so no special enzymes needed to process it inside the body, unlike sugar which is a pretty large complex compound that takes energy and enzymes to be broken down. The trace minerals in honey can be beneficial. Sweetness of honey, to me at least, is much preferable to that of sugar. A warmed up cheese and honey sandwich tastes awesome!

 

[Charmonium]

Strangely, I've noticed I get nosebleeds after eating any salted peanut butter but not unsalted or any other food.

You should probably check your blood pressure.

 

[igor_kavinski]

By the way, if anyone's ever had sugarcane juice, it's sooooooooo refreshing!

Trust humans to go one step further and make artificial white poison from that.

 

[Captante]

By the way, if anyone's ever had sugarcane juice, it's sooooooooo refreshing! Trust humans to go one step further and make artificial white poison from that.

ONE CUP (8 oz) of "sugarcane juice" (lol) contains FIFTY GRAMS (!!!) of pure SUCROSE.

A freaking 12 ounce can of Coke "only" has 39 !!!

 

[sdifox]

By the way, if anyone's ever had sugarcane juice, it's sooooooooo refreshing!

Trust humans to go one step further and make artificial white poison from that.

LOL liquid sugar with extra fiber is better than sugar...

 

[sdifox]

I heard that honey has very little to offer nutritionally over table sugar. I have a LOT of honey on my shelves but seldom reach for any.

Honey, believe it or not, is said to be the one food that never goes bad! I don't know how the bees do it. It does crystalize after a while, is my experience. I just put it in the microwave a bit and it decrystalizes by virtue of the heat. Give it a stir and it's good as new.

Honey is useful for cooking. It has protease, which is an enzyme that breaks down protein.


Learned this from watching an anime

 

[igor_kavinski]

ONE CUP (8 oz) of "sugarcane juice" (lol) contains FIFTY GRAMS (!!!) of pure SUCROSE.

That's not the only thing it has. There's something else in it that makes it so refreshing. Don't ask me what that is. Haven't researched it.

And like most fruits, it likely has phytochemicals that reduce the impact of all that sucrose, which are filtered out during the industrial process of making sugar.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Honey is useful for cooking. It has protease, which is a enzyme that breaks down protein.

Thanks!

If it weren't for you, I would have died not knowing this about honey. In my literally hundreds of articles I read about honey, not one mentioned this and now I just found this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3492327/

No wonder honey is so beneficial. If it has protein breaking enzymes, it helps the body break down old worn out tissue, stimulating the creation of healthy tissue (and if it gets used up digesting the food we consume with it, then that leaves our body's proteases free for being diverted towards essential catabolic processes).

This does mean that pure honey should not be heated above 40 degrees celsius. That much heat destroys enzymes.

 

[Captante]

That's not the only thing it has. There's something else in it that makes it so refreshing. Don't ask me what that is. Haven't researched it.

And like most fruits, it likely has phytochemicals that reduce the impact of all that sucrose, which are filtered out during the industrial process of making sugar.

Yeah.... "refreshing" lolol .... I'd vomit from one sip! Do you also enjoy children's breakfast cereals??

50 grams of sugar = 12 teaspoons per 8 ounces. That's disgusting.

Take a measuring cup and scoop out 12 teaspoons sugar into it for a visual aid .... real "refreshing" alright. I once knew this girl who enjoyed eating spoons of granulated sugar right out of the bowl which MIGHT actually be healthier!

 

[sdifox]

Thanks!

If it weren't for you, I would have died not knowing this about honey. In my literally hundreds of articles I read about honey, not one mentioned this and now I just found this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3492327/

No wonder honey is so beneficial. If it has protein breaking enzymes, it helps the body break down old worn out tissue, stimulating the creation of healthy tissue (and if it gets used up digesting the food we consume with it, then that leaves our body's proteases free for being diverted towards essential catabolic processes).

This does mean that pure honey should not be heated above 40 degrees celsius. That much heat destroys enzymes.

Err once your digestive system is done with the honey, it is nothing more than sugar.

 

[Captante]

That's not the only thing it has. There's something else in it that makes it so refreshing. Don't ask me what that is. Haven't researched it.

And like most fruits, it likely has phytochemicals that reduce the impact of all that sucrose, which are filtered out during the industrial process of making sugar.

99.99% WATER. (lol) The only "nutritutionel" value it has is a little bit of vitamin C.

So sugar-water with ascorbic acid to the human body. Yum. (Hawaiian Punch and Kool Aid have that too!)

Lets just call it what it is from now on... "diabetes-water" !!



EDIT: Sad news.... coconut water is nothing but pure sugar too!

 

[igor_kavinski]

Yeah.... "refreshing" lolol .... I'd vomit from one sip!

You clearly haven't had fresh sugarcane juice. Try it. You will be surprised.

I'm probably more sugar sensitive than you are. But when I had my last glass of that, I also had about 300g of watermelon, and a decent meal of rice and chicken too. Had that been too much sugar for me, I would have immediately felt the ill effects of it, the most prominent one being that I start seeing floaters if my glucose gets too high. And my kidneys jam up and I piss out acidic urine.

 

[sdifox]

You clearly haven't had fresh sugarcane juice. Try it. You will be surprised.

I'm probably more sugar sensitive than you are. But when I had my last glass of that, I also had about 300g of watermelon, and decent meal of rice and chicken too. Had that been too much sugar for me, I would have immediately felt the ill effects of it, the most prominent one being that I start seeing floaters if my glucose gets too high. And my kidneys jam up and I piss out acidic urine.

I love chewing sugar cane, but I have no illusions about it's sugar content.