PCMark05 released

Xentropy

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I personally have an Intel system, and can't even get the Virus scan test to complete properly to get a score at this time. Just wanted to let everyone know this exists (did a quick search and saw no other posts about it, so apologies if this is a repost) and am curious whether they've managed to put Intel and AMD on more even footing this time around (given PCMark04's penchant for underscoring AMD systems).

Share and enjoy!
http://www.futuremark.com/products/pcmark05/
 

boshuter

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I think maybe AMD is the one that needs to put themselves on a more even footing, changing the bench to make them look better is not a solution. It's just a test that sees if your pc can do more than play games, that's why Intel usually scores better. The new AMD X2's should do well, the older ones will stilll be gaming chips and get stomped in most anything else. Nascar does that "change the rules so everyone is equal" crap, that's why it basicly sucks anymore. Put the bench out there and everyone has to run the same tests, if your cpu is good at it, it will score well, if not..... oh well ;)
 

dukdukgoos

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Hmm... doesn't AMD stomp Intel in almost every benchmark now, except PCMark? Seems like pretty clear bias to me...
 

jpeyton

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Can somebody with an X2 system run PCMark2005 and report back with their score?

I'm getting a really low score for some reason with my overclocked X2.
 

Zebo

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I'm getting a really low score for some reason with my overclocked X2.

It's designed that way. Intel more than likly pays them to fudge AMD results. This is why 3dmark03 and 05 show Intel processors same as AMD while in real live games AMD beats intel like a red headed step child.

Besides. Just say no to synthetics! they mean nothing.
 

ryanv12

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Yeah, I hate synthetic benchmarks. What's sad is that a lot of people rely on them. I know it's an easy and conveinent way of benchmarking, but it really isn't that hard to create your own real world benchmarks. A benchmarking program is actually horrible if a particular CPU would do well on it but suck in all the real world stuff. More often than not, that's the case.
 

RichUK

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i think fVck the bench marks just pretend that you have the best PC in the World and boast about it.. thats what i do.. lol .. :D
 

jpeyton

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Actually there is a bug already, having to do with Nvidia drivers I believe. Others are reporting abnormally low scores too.
 

Technonut

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I like it better than PCMark04.... Throws much more at the rig. ;)

My score is: 5451

Anyone else want to post scores for comparison?
 

ZobarStyl

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PCMark is useless, Windows already comes with that feature. Just right click on "My Computer," and select Properties. It will show you your processor speed at the bottom, which is pretty much all PCMark does. XBit is one of the few places that still benches it, but look here and you'll see how silly it is: under the pure CPU scores, it's proportionally lined up with clockspeed to the letter, with additional cache (6xx) and Extreme Editions having absolutely no effect on scores (they all fall well within margin of error).

Most useless benchmark evar.
 

Xentropy

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Almsot every comment so far has been about PCMark04. There is absoultely no chance in anyone's mind that 05 might have improved upon 04's foundation? No one posting any benches with it sure won't let anyone learn whether it still has the same issues or not.
 

Technonut

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I just ran it again on one of my spare rigs. Specs:

P4 2.8C @ 3429MHz
2x 512MB Kingston ValueRAM @ 490MHz 2-3-2-5 (1:1)
Radeon 9800 Pro
80GB WD HDD

Score: 3887
 

bunnyfubbles

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the only saving grace to synths is that they are good measure of whether or not your system is performing as it should - it does not determine it to be the fastest at anything other than running that benchmark.
 

Xentropy

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
the only saving grace to synths is that they are good measure of whether or not your system is performing as it should - it does not determine it to be the fastest at anything other than running that benchmark.
Agreed, that's how I use them. They're a solid indicator of whether your system has an issue or could use some performance tweaking. If you compare your scores with others with the exact same (or nearly identical) stats and aren't +/- 10% of their score, one of you could probably use a tuneup.

I just got a 7800GTX and am using 3DMarks to see how my 3D subsystem is. I've also discovered some issues with the reported clocks in the control panel I'm trying to track down a solution to. So they can be good troubleshooting tools. Benchmarks aren't completely worthless, they're just not as good at comparing two DIFFERENT systems as they claim to be.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Can somebody with an X2 system run PCMark2005 and report back with their score?

I'm getting a really low score for some reason with my overclocked X2.

So what is your low score ???
 

Duvie

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I get some error with the program.....It is not my setup cause I am running tmpgenc 2 pass encoding now while I just burnt 2 CDs all while watching LOTR Return of the King,...

It is a fvckin crappy program....

The first time it wouldn't give me a score cause I didn't have WME 9....I installed it (though I know I had it before to get my PCmark04 scores).....The I couldn't get it to start...says there is an error but this is at the speed I just finished 31 passes of memtest and has prime tested 24 hours....


So who knows what the bug is...I have an nvidia video card modded to a FX4000 and I believe my dets are like 75.90's......
 

Duvie

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I am noticing ATI on the guys who have got it to finish....

what is the nvidia bug and can someone point me to a fix....

Actually it may have to do with my nvidia forceware driver cause after running it then trying to run it again with WME 9 installed my sound no longer works....though beep tones in windows works...it messed something up.

As sson as I finish the CD I will stop my encoding to see if a reboot gets the sound to work again...
 

Duvie

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I need to update my vid drivers no doubt....what are your forceware drivers if you are using an NF3 or NF4 system...
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Can somebody with an X2 system run PCMark2005 and report back with their score?

I'm getting a really low score for some reason with my overclocked X2.

So what is your low score ???

It's around 1200 for some reason. It has to do with a funky hard drive score. I will try different drivers and rebench.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: Duvie
I need to update my vid drivers no doubt....what are your forceware drivers if you are using an NF3 or NF4 system...

i guess mine are 653? where do i see for certain?

also, maybe the nv bug has to fo with the ides if you have them installed? just speculating.
 

Duvie

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OK a freash restart and all seems to work now...

Now this is only at 2520 where I am testing ram speeds....currently running 450ddr 166div 2.5-4-4-8.....

I get 4073....

I will retest in awhile back up at 2.66ghz...

At 2.6ghz with cas 2.5-4-4-11 (conservative) 133div... 4119...


I may get 4300 with the rig settings in my sig....
 

GuitarDaddy

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SD3700+ 2780mhz

6600GT stock


It looks like GPU makes some diff. Rise4310 beats me by 200 with 30 less mhz.
6800GT vs 6600GT