PCI express?

[homercles337]

What is the deal with the lack of PCIe hardware? Its the end of the year and i expected to be building my PCIe rig by August. How do mobo/video card maufacturers expect people to adopt PCIe when there arent any product to even buy?! Sorry, this is kind of a rant thread, but i am seriously curious why i cant find PCIe mobos/video cards in reasonable quantity yet.

 

[SLCentral]

It's a new standard, and new standards take time.

 

[homercles337]

Bah! Im not buying that. There is obviously a market demand that is not being met or else there wouldnt be price gouging.

 

[coejus]

Originally posted by: homercles337
What is the deal with the lack of PCIe hardware? Its the end of the year and i expected to be building my PCIe rig by August. How do mobo/video card maufacturers expect people to adopt PCIe when there arent any product to even buy?! Sorry, this is kind of a rant thread, but i am seriously curious why i cant find PCIe mobos/video cards in reasonable quantity yet.

You can. Intel boards have been available with PCIe for some time. AMD boards just started adopting the standard recently, so of course they're trickling out slowly. Not to mention the artificially high prices...

 

[jvarszegi]

Originally posted by: coejus
You can. Intel boards have been available with PCIe for some time. AMD boards just started adopting the standard recently, so of course they're trickling out slowly. Not to mention the artificially high prices...

Yep. It seems to me that agility is on the side of the market leader with these things, too. Intel has more fabs than AMD, so they can dedicate one or more fabs to producing 90nm parts, for instance, quicker than AMD can; it also gives them the benefit of having testbed facilities. AMD has to be more careful to get everything exactly right; IIRC as of last year they only had four fabs. Now, think of all the motherboard and chip makers; they probably have fewer production facilities geared towards AMD than Intel, just because the market is smaller. Not only is the economic incentive greater to focus on synchronizing production schedules with Intel, they have more "stuff" to work with.

 

[pjwinkler]

MSI has an Athlon PCIe board out on that new radeon chipset... looks pretty good.

 

[homercles337]

Oops, my bad. I am really talking about the AMD 939 boards. But i remember what it was like last year at this time. May/June was the expected time frame for PCIe HW to hit the market. Why the delay? Regardless of "late" amd arrival this still doesnt say anything about the scarceness of high end (read as: 16 pipe) PCIe video cards.

 

[DragonFire]

I somewhat agree, as far as I know video cards are the only things out right now that support PCI-E. I dont see creative comeing out with a Audigy2/4 that supports PCI-E. I dont see raid controllers coming out for it or even 56k modems for that matter. Tho I really havnt looked into it.