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PCI Express

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HondaF1

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Hi,
I have been hearing of this PCI express slot, and that it is going to be available soon. In how many months will PCI Express slots be available?
 
So does thismean that if I am not in a hurry to build a computer anytime within the next 4 months, but will probably need to build one after that, I should be patient and wait for PCI-Express motherboards?


When you say announced, do you mean they will be sold from next week onwards?

Have many manufacturers started with PCI-E, or are we only going to see like a motherboard or two with PCI-E?
 
Does this mean that if I am in no hurry tyo build a computer within the next 4 months, I should wait for PCI-E to become available mainstream?


When you say announced, does this mean that they will be released in a week, or they will just start production or something?


Also, is PCI-E reverse compatible with regular PCI?


How long will it be before PCI-E becomes widely availble on many motherboards?


Just asking, I am going tohave to build a computer some time within the next 6 months, and will probably wait for the new technology to come about.
 
New boards will have both PCI and PCI-e on them. When the new chipsets become available they will have probably 2 PCI-e slots.
 
Production has already started. Both PCI and PCI-E slots will be present on boards.

You should wait.
 
I am planning on building a new socket 939 system. I am wondering if I should wait. My plan was to build now and wait for the refresh of the graphics card and wait for high avalibity and the price to come down on the pci-e stuff then I would get a new Mb and graphics card. Think this is a good plan or should I just hold off competely.
 
Depends on what your system is now. I would suggest holding off and waiting.
 
I was thinking of waiting my only concern is the price and avalibility of new Pci-E graphics cards. I was thinking of waiting for a refresh and to them to try to take advantage of the whole bus.
 
Well I have been thinking of this since january.
New board
New video
NEW MEMORY DDR2 (OUCH) I bet this is going to kill it for me price wise.

I believe they are going to be btx format so new case. New power supply

just take this old 3.2g p4 and trash can it. 512meg of corsair 3500 crap
9700 pro ---- yep well 2 out of 3....

basic its all new...
board $200
video $400 (rip off)
memory $$$$
new processor ?? prescott only I would say
yep another $250+

case and ps

$1200+
for pci express when it comes out

OUCH

mr andy does this look right?


etrin
 
Probably not at first.

Compring 4xAGP to 8xAGP (twice as fast), there is no performance increase.
Comparing PCI-E to 8XAGP (twice as fast), will there be? Who knows?

Most likely, not at first. Boards will come out with AGP as well as PCI-E for a while, and AGP will take some time before it's dead. Just like the transition from PCI to AGP. Same deal.

PCI-E x880XT (R423) will be out in the fall. It's just an x800XT on a native PCI-E bus. 6800U's are not native PCI-E, and are just bridged.
 
the inquirer reports that there will be new AGP cards for the next 18 months

the real question is, will there be pci-express scsi cards? I checked the adaptec webpage and didn't see any announcements.
 
the thing i liked was the PCI-X slots for video cards (is that the x16) that have a PCI-X 1x slot behind them that could be used to add power to the card and removing the need for molex connections and possibly giving it a litte more speed
 
pci-e will not necessarily require you to go out and get BTX as well. not yet at least. and all the boards i have seen so far that have pci-e on them also have normal pci slots like we have now on them. so you shouldnt have to worry about your current pci style cards going to waste. and if you think $1200 is alot for a new computer... crap man if you want brand new product you will probably spend at least that much right now anyways. and with a new setup with pci-e and ddr2 compatibility you should be set to upgrade for a good long time. anyways a p4 with a 9700 pro card and 512 mb of good ram will last you for at least another year before you should think of upgrading. just cuz pci-e is being released doesnt make everything else immediatly obsolete. i would think you have nearly 2 years even before you have to do anything to such a rig (other htan maybe add another stick of 512 ram)
 
thanks for the words gordanfreeman.

I was thinking of upgrading some of the parts like I have in the past. Maybe a motherboard or
processor or video. Maybe 1 every 6mos or 1yr.

BUT when its replace Everything it gets too expensive to do it all at once.

I have 2 sticks of corsair pc3500... I know I cant mix and max brands. so I have waited till corsair drops the price (FAT CHANCE) and move to a gig.option sell and buy different sticks.
abit ic7

the pci express video cards Nvidia is saying that all their new agp cards will use an adapter.
not too sure how good this will work. Seems in the last 2 yrs nvidia doesn't care how good it works as long as you send them money.


of course ddr2 will be like the first ddr sticks.....high HIGH dont' have a caps for the caps key 🙂
then it will be everywhere and the price will quickly fall.

btx boards will pci-e slots will be 200+ when they first hit the shelves.
intel boards first.

video cards...all are overpriced and nothing new. same old same old...wow 50% increase in frame rates..same card as last year but we just shrunk the core and added 4 more pipes.
oh and doubled the price.

want something new...just as soon as we hook everyone on the 5 versions of the same card.
 
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