PCI-E 2.0 VGA Card on PCI-E 1.0 Platform

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Biomorphic

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.
 

apoppin

Lifer
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alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.

you can't do the stock test at the stock settings?
- Vantage is not important except for showing changes in the same system .. play games!

.. at any rate, i think my benches showed you lost nothing practical in frame rates with a 4870-1GB on a 1.0 PCIe MB compared to 2.0; GTX280 showed a little difference.

PCIe 3.0 is out and should be available in new MBs this Summer
rose.gif
 

cbn

Lifer
Mar 27, 2009
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.

you can't do the stock test at the stock settings?
- Vantage is not important except for showing changes in the same system .. play games!

.. at any rate, i think my benches showed you lost nothing practical in frame rates with a 4870-1GB on a 1.0 PCIe MB compared to 2.0; GTX280 showed a little difference.

PCIe 3.0 is out and should be available in new MBs this Summer
rose.gif

So PCI-E 3.0 will be available this summer pn P55 mobos? Is this because RV870 and GT300 would stress a PCI-E 2.0 x8 connection (if used in Crossfire/SLI).

I wonder if RV870 and GT300 will officially be PCI-E 3.0 cards?
 

Biomorphic

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Jul 6, 2007
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.

you can't do the stock test at the stock settings?
- Vantage is not important except for showing changes in the same system .. play games!

.. at any rate, i think my benches showed you lost nothing practical in frame rates with a 4870-1GB on a 1.0 PCIe MB compared to 2.0; GTX280 showed a little difference.

PCIe 3.0 is out and should be available in new MBs this Summer
rose.gif

I can't do the stock test at a stock run because the native resolution of my monitor is 1360 x 768 pixels. So, I can only do the GPU tests with any presets I want but only at 1360 x 768 pixels.

Anyway, I'm benchmarking some games these days and I'll post it on my website as soon as I finish. However, most of the games I play are racing ones and most of them retain a 60 FPS gameplay, which is not suitable for benchmarking. Race Driver: GRID seems okay but that's the only game I have which allows me to disable vertical sync. :(

Do you have any suggestion other than Crysis, Call of Duty, World in Conflict, Far Cry, etc?
 

cbn

Lifer
Mar 27, 2009
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Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.

you can't do the stock test at the stock settings?
- Vantage is not important except for showing changes in the same system .. play games!

.. at any rate, i think my benches showed you lost nothing practical in frame rates with a 4870-1GB on a 1.0 PCIe MB compared to 2.0; GTX280 showed a little difference.

PCIe 3.0 is out and should be available in new MBs this Summer
rose.gif

I can't do the stock test at a stock run because the native resolution of my monitor is 1360 x 768 pixels. So, I can only do the GPU tests with any presets I want but only at 1360 x 768 pixels.

Anyway, I'm benchmarking some games these days and I'll post it on my website as soon as I finish. However, most of the games I play are racing ones and most of them retain a 60 FPS gameplay, which is not suitable for benchmarking. Race Driver: GRID seems okay but that's the only game I have which allows me to disable vertical sync. :(

Do you have any suggestion other than Crysis, Call of Duty, World in Conflict, Far Cry, etc?

I would imagine that 1360x768 resolution doesn't stress the PCI-E bandwidth much. (But notice my name is "Just Learning" so take what I say with a grain of salt)

 

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.

you can't do the stock test at the stock settings?
- Vantage is not important except for showing changes in the same system .. play games!

.. at any rate, i think my benches showed you lost nothing practical in frame rates with a 4870-1GB on a 1.0 PCIe MB compared to 2.0; GTX280 showed a little difference.

PCIe 3.0 is out and should be available in new MBs this Summer
rose.gif

I can't do the stock test at a stock run because the native resolution of my monitor is 1360 x 768 pixels. So, I can only do the GPU tests with any presets I want but only at 1360 x 768 pixels.

Anyway, I'm benchmarking some games these days and I'll post it on my website as soon as I finish. However, most of the games I play are racing ones and most of them retain a 60 FPS gameplay, which is not suitable for benchmarking. Race Driver: GRID seems okay but that's the only game I have which allows me to disable vertical sync. :(

Do you have any suggestion other than Crysis, Call of Duty, World in Conflict, Far Cry, etc?

i have many suggestions. i currently bench 13 games every month with each set of vendor's WHQL drivers. i am adding 3 more this coming month [SC/HAWX/BattleForge]

the problem is that you generally need to own the games to run the benches. There are some standalone demos; unfortunately [or fortunately, depending on PoV] they are almost never patched or updated.

Here are some current free ones:

WiC
Crysis
CoJ
HL2-Lost Coast
LP
X3-TC
HAWX
BattleForge
PT Boats
STAKLKER: CS

There are a host of less known and older game demos available to bench.
 

cbn

Lifer
Mar 27, 2009
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221
106
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Originally posted by: Biomorphic
Anyway, I will carry out some benchmarking and compare it to appopin's results at http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=2249&all=1 soon.

Here they are.

Very cool!

What do you conclude about PCIe 1.0 vs 2.0 in your PC?
- what would you recommend now for a MB and HD4870?

Well, my 3DMark Vantage benchmark was performed under the Performance preset and a resolution of 1360 x 768 pixels and my GPU score was 11,119. That's much more than a stock HD 4890 can achieve on a PCI-E 2.0 platform (if I'm to base myself on the reviews from around the web).

So, I guess I don't lose anything with my Sapphire HD 4870 1 GB Toxic Edition installed on a PCI-E 1.0 platform.

you can't do the stock test at the stock settings?
- Vantage is not important except for showing changes in the same system .. play games!

.. at any rate, i think my benches showed you lost nothing practical in frame rates with a 4870-1GB on a 1.0 PCIe MB compared to 2.0; GTX280 showed a little difference.

PCIe 3.0 is out and should be available in new MBs this Summer
rose.gif

I can't do the stock test at a stock run because the native resolution of my monitor is 1360 x 768 pixels. So, I can only do the GPU tests with any presets I want but only at 1360 x 768 pixels.

Anyway, I'm benchmarking some games these days and I'll post it on my website as soon as I finish. However, most of the games I play are racing ones and most of them retain a 60 FPS gameplay, which is not suitable for benchmarking. Race Driver: GRID seems okay but that's the only game I have which allows me to disable vertical sync. :(

Do you have any suggestion other than Crysis, Call of Duty, World in Conflict, Far Cry, etc?

i have many suggestions. i currently bench 13 games every month with each set of vendor's WHQL drivers. i am adding 3 more this coming month [SC/HAWX/BattleForge]

the problem is that you generally need to own the games to run the benches. There are some standalone demos; unfortunately [or fortunately, depending on PoV] they are almost never patched or updated.

Here are some current free ones:

WiC
Crysis
CoJ
HL2-Lost Coast
LP
X3-TC
HAWX
BattleForge
PT Boats
STAKLKER: CS

There are a host of less known and older game demos available to bench.

stalker clear sky has a free playable demo? I have never been able to find it and I have looked many times.
 

Biomorphic

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Jul 6, 2007
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I've just downloaded some of the above mentioned demos. I'll benchmark them by tomorrow and post the results on my website.

Thank you, apoppin... You've been of great help to me. :)