PCGHTomb Raider TressFX Benchmarks

[GaiaHunter]

Let's make believe there was no developer work or resources spent from AMD in this title!

Possibly a direct port -- how wonderful! No DirectX 11 goodies for all -- no TressFX -- for all --- just a port.

There is a big problem if to have DX11 and any "high tech" features you need to invest in every single title.

Especially since the console versions will outsell the PC version by a decent margin.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Oh, built-in benchmarks have little to do with the game now, is it? So is this going to become a thing now, where testers just run around in the game with no regard for synchronizing movement and time of movement for all cards, to ensure a fair testing premise? If only there was a method to do that and not have to worry about discrepancies between tests oh yeah there is, it's called a built-in benchmark.

Hell if they're not going to use that, at least make it so that the test does not have to depend on the tester's ability to play the sequence exactly as they did on the previous runs; Save in a spot while looking at a GFX intensive area, and use that for benchmarking, without touching the keyboard or mouse.

This is no problem if you're not lazy. Integrated benchmarks may represent real gameplay but they may also not. Savegames are the best way to test gaming performance since that is the most real experience. What good does the integrated benchmark do, when 99% of the time during gameplay you don't have close-ups of Laras hair to look at?

 

[SirPauly]

There is a big problem if to have DX11 and any "high tech" features you need to invest in every single title.

Especially since the console versions will outsell the PC version by a decent margin.

Some see problems, while others see opportunities.

 

[Fx1]

Did you not read the news over the past several days, with Nvidia saying that performance issues for Kepler and this game will be fixed via both drivers and game patches, or are you just trolling or making idiotically ill-formed opinions like always?

If you have to wait for driver updates in order to get the best out of your card then basically its NOT WORTH THE MONEY.

690 GTX has the same problem with SLI but at least when you do get drivers they own the Titan.

You can complete this game before nvidia fix the issue. So where is the benefit of the 1k Single GPU if you have to wait for the performance?

I am getting better than titan performance on a £300 GPU instead of £840 and ill finish this title before you get the driver update.

Well done Nvidia!

 

[boxleitnerb]

No you're not. Titan is still the fastest GPU in Tomb Raider, unless of course you play the integrated benchmark.
And if that is how you think of driver updates and getting the best out of your card, the 7970 series was not worth the money until the 12.11 drivers came out a good 10 months after launch of the cards.

 

[Fx1]

No you're not. Titan is still the fastest GPU in Tomb Raider, unless of course you play the integrated benchmark.
And if that is how you think of driver updates and getting the best out of your card, the 7970 series was not worth the money until the 12.11 drivers came out a good 10 months after launch of the cards.

Im pretty sure that an overclocked 7970 has always been the fastest GPU since release in most games with the exception of Frostbite games. Then driver updates gave the 7970 the edge in those games also.

7970 Cards were hitting 1125mhz from day one release also regardless of 1050mhz GHZ cards.

Also a 7970 never cost £840. So expectations are certainly different.

 

[-Slacker-]

This is no problem if you're not lazy. Integrated benchmarks may represent real gameplay but they may also not. Savegames are the best way to test gaming performance since that is the most real experience. What good does the integrated benchmark do, when 99% of the time during gameplay you don't have close-ups of Laras hair to look at?

About the same amount of good as comparative play-through benchmarks that aren't played in the exact same sequence of movements, synchronized perfectly with previous benchmark play-throughs, which is pretty hard to do.

 

[raghu78]

Im pretty sure that an overclocked 7970 has always been the fastest GPU since release in most games with the exception of Frostbite games. Then driver updates gave the 7970 the edge in those games also.

7970 Cards were hitting 1125mhz from day one release also regardless of 1050mhz GHZ cards.

Also a 7970 never cost £840. So expectations are certainly different.

yeah. the 12.11 took the major Nvidia win which was BF3 and turned it into a AMD win. with 310.70 Nvidia made GTX 680 on par.

as for people complaining that only HD 7970 Ghz is faster only in in game benchmarks on GE titles thats not the case. HD 7970 runs better in GE titles which had closer collaboration like Sleeping Dogs and hitman absolution.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/02/21/nvidia_geforce_gtx_titan_video_card_review/5
http://techreport.com/review/24381/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-reviewed/9

thats gameplay benchmarking and not in game benchmarks.

Hitman absolution also is faster, but with frametime latency issues. AMD's new memory manager driver will fix these in a generic manner for all DX11 / DX10 games.

http://techreport.com/review/24381/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-reviewed/11
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...orce-gtx-titan-6gb-performance-review-13.html

 

[Silverforce11]

*GCN seems to run recent deeply dev'ed Gaming Evolved Titles better than Kepler.

Let us not pretend the obvious isn't obvious.

Isnt this the point of close dev relationship, to make YOUR hardware run better?

If it were not the case, AMD is wasting their time, engineers and $$ on GE. But evenso, looking back at all the GE titles, it seems NV hardware run it as well or better: Shogun 2, Deus Ex, FarCry3 etc etc. This is evidence that AMD is being "nice".

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Yes, but the point is calling it like it is and getting final release products to the "bad guys" within a reasonable time-frame. Nvidia shouldn't have been left scrambling with an ancient engine just prior to release.

AMD/Square should have tested Nvidia's hardware prior to releasing the final build and while testing said build - they would have easily discovered the tess bug and crash occurrences on Nvidia hardware and at the very least sent them the code sooner and allowed Nvidia to actually work a practical driver.

Everything about this smells like a juvenile attempt to steal some of Titans spotlight, meanwhile a large portion of the gaming community is left to suffer.


imo - of course!

 

[Leadbox]

Yes, but the point is calling it like it is and getting final release products to the "bad guys" within a reasonable time-frame. Nvidia shouldn't have been left scrambling with an ancient engine just prior to release.

AMD/Square should have tested Nvidia's hardware prior to releasing the final build and while testing said build - they would have easily discovered the tess bug and crash occurrences on Nvidia hardware and at the very least sent them the code sooner and allowed Nvidia to actually work a practical driver.

Everything about this smells like a juvenile attempt to steal some of Titans spotlight, meanwhile a large portion of the gaming community is left to suffer.


imo - of course!

Yes of course! Nvidia would have extended them that same courtesy if the rolls were reversed here :whiste:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Ah yes, I forgot Nvidia = Evil.

Do you have any proof that Nvidia withheld the final code for a game while AMD had an old build that was completely revamped and resent to them just a week prior to release?

I'd like to see it, thanks!

 

[Leadbox]

Ah yes, I forgot Nvidia = Evil.

Do you have any proof that Nvidia withheld the final code for a game while AMD had an old build that was completely revamped and resent to them just a week prior to release?

I'd like to see it, thanks!

Would such a thing be in the public knowledge, or would we just have the word of the affected party as proof?

 

[MeldarthX]

Ah yes, I forgot Nvidia = Evil.

Do you have any proof that Nvidia withheld the final code for a game while AMD had an old build that was completely revamped and resent to them just a week prior to release?

I'd like to see it, thanks!

Seriously? I just need to say Batman....that's all

vendor locks? Yes Nvidia had done it many many times; also its not AMD's Job to test Nvidia's stuff.......Just as you've pointed out and others not Nvidia's job to test......*even though we know for a fact the AA worked on AMD's cards; Nvidia didn't want it so it was vendor locked*

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'd take anything over the nothing you're providing Leadbox.

You guys are so right, it's not the dev's job to make sure a specific vendors hardware works out of the gate or not on current drivers.

The only way that makes sense is if you're getting paid to make it happen.

 

[cmdrdredd]

If you have to wait for driver updates in order to get the best out of your card then basically its NOT WORTH THE MONEY.

690 GTX has the same problem with SLI but at least when you do get drivers they own the Titan.

You can complete this game before nvidia fix the issue. So where is the benefit of the 1k Single GPU if you have to wait for the performance?

I am getting better than titan performance on a £300 GPU instead of £840 and ill finish this title before you get the driver update.

Well done Nvidia!

When the game is playable anyway...what's the problem? Oh it's a few fps slower here or there in a benchmark? The game is no slideshow...

 

[tviceman]

If you have to wait for driver updates in order to get the best out of your card then basically its NOT WORTH THE MONEY.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AMD's entire lineup was not worth the money until August or September of last year, right? A full 7-8 months after all the cards had been out. That is what you are saying, isn't it - based on your driver update theory?

Once again your honor, exhibit A, B, C, D, and E. This guy doesn't have a clue.

 

[lavaheadache]

A little unrelated but I fired this game up with an old GTX 285 today. Wouldn't you know, the game played smooth as silk @ 1920x1080 maxed in game options. Obviously with out Tressfx but it sure looked nice and played flawlessly

 

[Diceman2037]

A little unrelated but I fired this game up with an old GTX 285 today. Wouldn't you know, the game played smooth as silk @ 1920x1080 maxed in game options. Obviously without Tressfx, Tesselation and High Precision but it sure looked nice and played flawlessly

i fixed that for you.