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And when you play the Firewatch or Dying Light The Following a reference GTX970 is better than a 290X.

So finding one game and claiming this card is a failure is just nonsense.
 
Or nVidia cards are just superior.

Farcry Primal has even gotten a graphical downgrade from 4:
No HBAO+, no PCSS, no God-Rays, no Hairworks
 
sontin said:
Or nVidia cards are just superior.

Farcry Primal has even gotten a graphical downgrade from 4:
No HBAO+, no PCSS, no God-Rays, no Hairworks
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I would argue that the Primal is better because it doesn't have GameWorks. Nobody gives a crap about those settings if turning them on makes the game a slide show on even the fastest of cards. The game is already very demanding as it is right now. Needing the fastest card in the world to hit 60fps on 1080p is nuts. Imagine if they threw in GameWorks, too? Holy Hell.

Nvidia should optimize GameWorks to run well on their own hardware instead of rushing an unpolished, and unoptimized version of GameWorks into games. I'm glad it isn't in. Maybe Nvidia is learning from the backlash?
 
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And no Gimpworks. Finally even Ubisoft realized that Gimpworks is not helpful. Or NV did not manage to bribe erm "support"this Game.
Latley Ubisoft Games are running rather smoothly on AMD. And all other games. PVZ2, the devision, cod Bo3.... Seems that finally the consoles GCN structure runs through to PC.
 
Vaporizer said:
And no Gimpworks. Finally even Ubisoft realized that Gimpworks is not helpful. Or NV did not manage to bribe erm "support"this Game.
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maybe 😀

Latley Ubisoft Games are running rather smoothly on AMD. And all other games. PVZ2, the devision, cod Bo3.... Seems that finally the consoles GCN structure runs through to PC.
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Imagine this is without DX12 and async compute. Those 970 users are going to be lining up for Pascal pretty soon once more DX12 games start appearing. I am looking forward to see AMD building on the current GCN strengths while addressing its weaknesses. Pascal vs Polaris is going to be an exciting contest. The key here is how each company's GPU architectures evolve to address the future demands of DX12/Vulkan.
 
No crossfire or SLI tests yet? I wanna know how my 290x's are gonna perform. Debating on either getting this game or The Division.
 
I hope people will soon realize how bad Gameworks is and how much it is killing the PC gaming industry.

I'm looking forward to this game, one of my best series. But none will beat Far Cry (1).
 
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I hope people will soon realize how bad Gameworks is and how much it is killing the PC gaming industry.

I'm looking forward to this game, one of my best series. But none will beat Far Cry (1).
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Agreed. It's like any other industry, consumers will always benefit from a more competitive market. AMD and NVIDIA should compete SOLELY on GPU hardware and the software that drives them with EQUAL image quality. Even if this means NVIDIA falls behind, they have the money and they have the talented engineers to catch up.

Its lucky we have Samsung stepping up to the cutting edge foundry game.. if we just had TSMC they may not have rolled out 16ff when they did unless Intel randomly decided to fab GPU's.
 
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So you take a 390 that won't even do 1100 and compare it to a 970 that does 1500? I wouldn't call that typical. That's more like an extreme case example.
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Not to mention most 390 can do 1150Mhz with a little overvolt. Some can run 1200 stable.
While not all 970 can run 1500 stable. Alot of 970 topped around 1450-1480 mark stable

A 390 that does 1200mhz is exactly 20% overclock. Since stock 390 will run at 1000mhz capped.
A 970 can boost up to 1300 even without tinkerin by user, so if user overclocked it to 1500, then it is just 15% overclock.
 
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A 970 can boost up to 1300 even without tinkerin by user, so if user overclocked it to 1500, then it is just 15% overclock.
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Stock GTX970 in reviews runs at 1100-1200Mhz.
Stock GTX980 runs at 1260-1280Mhz in reviews.
Non reference gtx970 cards are much closer to stock GTX980.
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After OC its beat stock GTX980 pretty easy
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I dont saying 390 cant OC,but in 1080P GTX970 is better after oc.in 1440P results are similar after oc and depends on game.
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Stock GTX970 in reviews runs at 1100-1200Mhz.
Stock GTX980 runs at 1260-1280Mhz in reviews.
Non reference gtx970 cards are much closer to stock GTX980.
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After OC its beat stock GTX980 pretty easy
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I dont saying 390 cant OC,but in 1080P GTX970 is better after oc.in 1440P results are similar after oc and depends on game.
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I think you forgot that nvidia's boost technology doesn't really have a hard cap like amd does. For example reference titan x (as in all titan x sold) normally operates at higher frequencies than their max boost clock in nvidia's spec, it happens if the chip is good and all other parameters like power consumption and temp is under the limit.

Second, i don't think cherry picking gtav benchmark is a good comparison, at max settings the game favors nvidia more.
 
In game with a 980ti@1520Mhz and 3800Mhz memory on 3440x1440 resolution with with the ultra preset, my fps stays 55-59 or so. With Gsync, that's plenty.
 
From TotalBiscuits review/live stream preformance isn't reassuring. Definately need to see what the latest drivers do for the game.
 
Guru3d benchmarked this game. A regular old R9 290 slaughters a 780ti AND a GTX 980. RoFL waffles with syrup. Don't worry though. Pascal is coming. lets buy it. Lets buy deh Pascal.
 
iiiankiii said:
I would argue that the Primal is better because it doesn't have GameWorks. Nobody gives a crap about those settings if turning them on makes the game a slide show on even the fastest of cards. The game is already very demanding as it is right now. Needing the fastest card in the world to hit 60fps on 1080p is nuts. Imagine if they threw in GameWorks, too? Holy Hell.

Nvidia should optimize GameWorks to run well on their own hardware instead of rushing an unpolished, and unoptimized version of GameWorks into games. I'm glad it isn't in. Maybe Nvidia is learning from the backlash?
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but nvidia doesnt care about running well they care to be the first to hit they want to be the first on the benchmark on day 1 and thats all that is afterall what brings them money
now if the sites where doing the benches 2-3 months after the release of a game everything would have been different
 
casiofx said:
I think you forgot that nvidia's boost technology doesn't really have a hard cap like amd does. For example reference titan x (as in all titan x sold) normally operates at higher frequencies than their max boost clock in nvidia's spec, it happens if the chip is good and all other parameters like power consumption and temp is under the limit.

Second, i don't think cherry picking gtav benchmark is a good comparison, at max settings the game favors nvidia more.
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I know this and stock GTX970 have 1050mhz base clock and boost at 1100-1200Mhz.
Stock GTX980 have 1128Mhz base clock and boost at 1250-1280Mhz.
Game Gpu tests with stock GTX970 and with GTX980 OC.Dont ask me why...
They use normal palit GTX970 with stock blower crap a GTX980 super jestream...
http://gamegpu.com/videoobzory/mad-max-graficheskij-video-obzor-gamegpu.html


Btw witcher 3-stock GTX970 41.6Fps and after oc 1500/7900 50.6fps.Thats 21% OC.
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