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Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

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zerocool84 said:
Seeing as there are many major sites that are flash only, I say Flash is an important part of web browsing. Also they did a test of Flash 10.1 on the Nexus One and it had a minimal impact on battery life. We all know Apple hates Flash cus you can just look at their desktop machines and all that fiasco they've had to know the only reason Apple isn't using Flash is cus the hate they have for each other.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/flash-10-1-might-not-be-a-battery-hog-on-android/
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I have the feeling Flash on phones is going to be a nightmare...

"might not be a battery hog" is hardly a ringing endorsement.

Adobe has been promising Flash for phones for ~3 years, I'm not holding my breath...

Have been using the HTML5 version of YouTube for a month or so now, it's pretty painless so far.
 
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Suspicious-Teach8788

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dguy6789 said:
Flash is of the utmost importance to me. Two things: Hulu and flash games.
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The iPhone games put flash games to shame. Hulu is not gonna cut it on a mobile device, you know it. Look at the resources you need to play 720p on a laptop or netbook. Then look at what will happen to an iPhone or Droid or Nexus One running it. Maybe they'll give us an app.

I believe flash is highly overrated. While it would be nice, it's not a huge killer for it to not be on the iPhone. I understand many people don't like Apple putting these restrictions on people, but in the end it's not like you're gonna gain much. And watching video on a 320x480 screen? Please. If you're really that desperate for 2 hours of battery life to watch some Hulu HD video, just wait till you get to a laptop at least.

Furthermore, you're just not going to get a great flash experience ANYWAY on a mobile view tiny screen. It's nice to have, but just not that important...
zerocool84 said:
Seeing as there are many major sites that are flash only, I say Flash is an important part of web browsing. Also they did a test of Flash 10.1 on the Nexus One and it had a minimal impact on battery life. We all know Apple hates Flash cus you can just look at their desktop machines and all that fiasco they've had to know the only reason Apple isn't using Flash is cus the hate they have for each other.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/flash-10-1-might-not-be-a-battery-hog-on-android/
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Major websites use flash only? You mean like youtube and Hulu, and sites designed for you to WATCH video? That's pretty much it. Flash navigations are heavily frowned upon now in website designs, and heavily animated websites are ignored. Why do you think people tout NoScript so much on FireFox? Sure I don't use it because I feel like most flash is unintrusive (at least with the sites I visit), so I'd rather just leave it on, but if people can do away with flash on desktop sites, then I'm sure you can do without it on Mobile sites.
 
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The best Flash games are far better than any game on the Android or Iphone app store. More important than the quality is the sheer number of them that are out there to be tried out. It completely puts the Iphone app store to shame in terms of raw numbers. Some games may work well, some may not, but having the option to try them would be nice. Once Flash is supported on Android, we will probably see a bunch of flash games being designed with mobile devices taken into consideration.

I don't see why the Hulu streams would have to be 720P. Most of the shows I watch on Hulu don't even have an option for anything above 480P. 360P would be perfectly fine for some mobile viewing. Today's phones have a resolution of ~480x800, that's plenty for watching the occasional TV show.

As much as Apple tries to downplay the importance of Flash, it's a lost cause for them. Flash is incredibly useful and an important part of the web today. HTML5 doesn't have the ability to replace it. The Youtube HTML5 version is missing tons of features because they aren't possible in HTML5.
 
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Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

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dguy6789 said:
The best Flash games are far better than any game on the Android or Iphone app store. More important than the quality is the sheer number of them that are out there to be tried out. It completely puts the Iphone app store to shame in terms of raw numbers. Some games may work well, some may not, but having the option to try them would be nice. Once Flash is supported on Android, we will probably see a bunch of flash games being designed with mobile devices taken into consideration.

I don't see why the Hulu streams would have to be 720P. Most of the shows I watch on Hulu don't even have an option for anything above 480P. 360P would be perfectly fine for some mobile viewing. Today's phones have a resolution of ~480x800, that's plenty for watching the occasional TV show.

As much as Apple tries to downplay the importance of Flash, it's a lost cause for them. Flash is incredibly useful and an important part of the web today. HTML5 doesn't have the ability to replace it. The Youtube HTML5 version is missing tons of features because they aren't possible in HTML5.
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I use Flashblock, and rarely activate anything, Flash is close to dead, and it will die.

The only thing that'll have Flash in a couple of years are out of date restaurant web sites that are eyesores.

Adobe fucked around too long and lost the game on mobile.

Check out the date: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20070211005079&newsLang=en

2007, got Flash on your phone yet?
 
zerogear

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My speed test on AT&T network.

From Hartford CT -> Boston Server:
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vshah

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damn, I was in bethesda, MD today and got 3200kbps down and 1300 up on tmobile 3g
 
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CTrain

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Funny how a thread about ATT speedtest turn into iphone vs Android, flash vs HTML5
 
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