PC usb to usb midi interfacing

[nefariouscaine]

so me and an friend of mine are into music composition and live performing on PC's using various pieces of soft ware but so far i have been unable to find any thing that supports the idea of being able to control via midi the other pc (or the programs being run on it) directly from the other pc

basically using the main pc as a controller and the other as a slave - midi mind you

i can find many boxes that are midi in/out/through to 1 usb but i can't for the life of me find a box that connects 2 usb devices to each other and allow the midi to communicate to each other

or the holy grail of this - pc directly to pc via usb

I've located some usb to usb bridge devices but mainly those are for networking and/or file transfer

so far as i can tell they don't really support "live" data transition that we are interested in

if someone might have further input on this concept/idea and if anyone has made it a reality please let me know

 

[JackMDS]

USB needs computer on one side.

Two devices that are Not computers and in essence are USB Clients can not be connected one to the other independent from computing circuits.

 

[nefariouscaine]

Originally posted by: JackMDS
USB needs computer on one side.

Two devices that are Not computers and in essence are USB Clients can not be connected one to the other independent from computing circuits.

um.... i'm talking about connecting 2 computers - you understood that correct??

 

[Jesusthewererabbit]

Let me see if I have this straight:

You are wanting to run the software, something like Reason or Ableton, on one computer, but control it remotely from another PC? Are you and your friend looking to jam together, but with midi software instead of physical instruments? I don't really know of any software that allows this. If you are asking what I think you are asking, could you run run two keyboards on the same PC? That would allow you both to be able to adjust the sounds it was making.

 

[nefariouscaine]

Originally posted by: Jesusthewererabbit
Let me see if I have this straight:

You are wanting to run the software, something like Reason or Ableton, on one computer, but control it remotely from another PC? Are you and your friend looking to jam together, but with midi software instead of physical instruments? I don't really know of any software that allows this. If you are asking what I think you are asking, could you run run two keyboards on the same PC? That would allow you both to be able to adjust the sounds it was making.

slightly similar to this - but more of lets say running Reaktor on both or reaktor in ableton on one and just reaktor on the other - just 2 separate ensembles that would play off of each other in midi sync - its more of an issue on running multiple instances on the same computer due to the complexity of the setup and it eats cpu use like its going out of style - my friend is trying for live performance with existing PC's and they aren't that fast (p4 3.0 with HT and a T43 with 1.8 P-m)

 

[Jesusthewererabbit]

How about setting up a LAN, running a remote access program, and controlling them both from one desktop?

 

[nefariouscaine]

Originally posted by: Jesusthewererabbit
How about setting up a LAN, running a remote access program, and controlling them both from one desktop?

doesn't work that way - you're not grasping the fact that we're trying to sync the programs with midi allowing them to be locked in and sonically in tuned "automatically"

having to manually change multiple programs at once isn't humanly possible and causes an inherit delay and errors

we're not talking about single instruments being laid over each other (drums and guitar) - we're talking about 1-8 sounds on *each* pc being run in reaktor at a much heightened pace (prolly at least 200 bpm and often times closer to 240 but run in triplicate with an off timing signature)

 

[dbarton]

Are you just trying to sync midi clocks to each other?

 

[JackMDS]

Computer talk one to other using Language (just like people) if there is No language there is No communication.

The most computer prevalent intercommunication language is Ethernet (there is No Midi Language).

http://www.nerds.de/en/ipmidi.html

http://www.midi.org/about-midi/ethernet.shtml


http://openmuse.org/transport/mip_intro.html